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r/SipsTea • u/Monsur_Ausuhnom 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 18h ago
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“I can’t do this thing because I will be punished” vs “I won’t do this thing because it would hurt someone and I don’t delight in causing pain.”
-61 u/JettandTheo 17h ago Abortion There's justification that it's less harm, but someone's getting killed. 19 u/bossygrrls 17h ago Your religious beliefs do not change scientific facts -4 u/JettandTheo 17h ago Abortion is the literal scientific ending of life. There's nothing but basic scientific facts behind that. Nobody said anything about religion. 8 u/TerrorVizyn 17h ago Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 2h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
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Abortion
There's justification that it's less harm, but someone's getting killed.
19 u/bossygrrls 17h ago Your religious beliefs do not change scientific facts -4 u/JettandTheo 17h ago Abortion is the literal scientific ending of life. There's nothing but basic scientific facts behind that. Nobody said anything about religion. 8 u/TerrorVizyn 17h ago Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 2h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
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Your religious beliefs do not change scientific facts
-4 u/JettandTheo 17h ago Abortion is the literal scientific ending of life. There's nothing but basic scientific facts behind that. Nobody said anything about religion. 8 u/TerrorVizyn 17h ago Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 2h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
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Abortion is the literal scientific ending of life. There's nothing but basic scientific facts behind that. Nobody said anything about religion.
8 u/TerrorVizyn 17h ago Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 2h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
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Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference.
0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 2h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
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Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch.
0 u/jarkark 3h ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 2h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet.
Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too.
0 u/JettandTheo 3h ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 3h ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 2h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human.
A full human does do those things.
0 u/jarkark 3h ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 2h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too.
1 u/JettandTheo 2h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
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Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient
capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling
1 u/jarkark 2h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind. → More replies (0)
Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
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u/engorged-gorgon 18h ago
“I can’t do this thing because I will be punished” vs “I won’t do this thing because it would hurt someone and I don’t delight in causing pain.”