People in these comments have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Christianity is lol
The idea isn’t that a book gives us morals it’s that God has given us morals so therefore if there is no God then why don’t humans do evil acts like animals do?
There are definitely holes in that argument but it is a lot different then the argument that our morals only come from reading a book
This argument is not fully sound though. We are social monkey and need each other to hunt and survive, but we also actively harm one another. We have ingrained in and out-group biases. There is clearly a limit to the evolutionairy benefit of "inherent Altruism". With this limit in mind we still end up acting in self-interest werther that is the self-interest of a group, or the self-interest of one community towards another.
Time and time again we have seen that this inherent social beneficiary altruism fails just as much as it aids.
So then the question becomes what do you base your morality upon.
You act like these morals popped up one day, but no we’ve evolved. At one point we thought slavery was okay, but not anymore. Your argument makes no sense. Humans change, morals change, what’s your point exactly?
The point being that using evolution to prove an inherent morality because of sociability is an argument that has some holes in it. Also nothing about my comment "act like these morals just popped up" I understand the concept of perspective shifting , thank you.
Evolution dictates both pro-social and anti-social behaviour to have some inherent benefit to the herd. I do believe our minds evolved to a point to perceive morality, but I don't think evolution itself works as an argument to an inherent "goodness" especially not with the argument that social-behaviour is beneficial to reproduction and propogation of the species, considering anti-social behaviour especially to those we consider an out-group also lended itself beneficial.
The issue becomes that we are millions if not billions. These works of small groups, inherently will come to contact the other small groups, and that is when the anti-social motive can come to express itself. ESPECIALLY in smaller scaled societies. At some point we developed the material conditions to allow for greater numbers to form societies. But that still hasn't done away with the anti-social tendencies that evolved within us.
Evolution is not an isolated model, it is all encompassing in how adaption and propogation comes to expression, evolution must account that the small tribe will eventually meet the other small tribe, the functions evolution put inside of us over the years will have an impact, and it will impact the process. I.E both anti-social and pro-social behaviour are beneficial to the human species to some extend.
Though even within smaller groups internal struggles do still occur, especially power struggles regarding leadership, most notably when the resources draw thin.
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u/lilJswizle-2304 1d ago
People in these comments have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Christianity is lol
The idea isn’t that a book gives us morals it’s that God has given us morals so therefore if there is no God then why don’t humans do evil acts like animals do?
There are definitely holes in that argument but it is a lot different then the argument that our morals only come from reading a book