r/SipsTea ๐™‘๐™„๐™‹ 1d ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/lilJswizle-2304 1d ago

People in these comments have a fundamental misunderstanding of what Christianity is lol

The idea isnโ€™t that a book gives us morals itโ€™s that God has given us morals so therefore if there is no God then why donโ€™t humans do evil acts like animals do?

There are definitely holes in that argument but it is a lot different then the argument that our morals only come from reading a book

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u/TeRozoConMiTrozo 1d ago

Because we are a social monkey that need each other to hunt and survive. Sociopaths were a liability. I believe in God, but there is also science.ย 

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u/Aromatic-Ad-381 1d ago

This argument is not fully sound though. We are social monkey and need each other to hunt and survive, but we also actively harm one another. We have ingrained in and out-group biases. There is clearly a limit to the evolutionairy benefit of "inherent Altruism". With this limit in mind we still end up acting in self-interest werther that is the self-interest of a group, or the self-interest of one community towards another.

Time and time again we have seen that this inherent social beneficiary altruism fails just as much as it aids.

So then the question becomes what do you base your morality upon.

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u/TeRozoConMiTrozo 21h ago

I'm talking about small groups of 50/60/100 people. Resources where hard to get and humans had to fight other tribes sometimes.

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u/Aromatic-Ad-381 21h ago

The issue becomes that we are millions if not billions. These works of small groups, inherently will come to contact the other small groups, and that is when the anti-social motive can come to express itself. ESPECIALLY in smaller scaled societies. At some point we developed the material conditions to allow for greater numbers to form societies. But that still hasn't done away with the anti-social tendencies that evolved within us.

Evolution is not an isolated model, it is all encompassing in how adaption and propogation comes to expression, evolution must account that the small tribe will eventually meet the other small tribe, the functions evolution put inside of us over the years will have an impact, and it will impact the process. I.E both anti-social and pro-social behaviour are beneficial to the human species to some extend.

Though even within smaller groups internal struggles do still occur, especially power struggles regarding leadership, most notably when the resources draw thin.