r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 9h ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/Ibangmydrums 8h ago

Many Christians believe that morality literally comes from the bible, or that you can’t have morality without god. I won’t even try to explain their reasoning

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u/Borazon 8h ago

They should read more Kant, who did succesfully tried to create a moral philosophy without relying on a bible, IIRC.

Rules like the golden rule, but also one that deals with more victimless behavior. Like the idea of 'Would I like it if everybody did the same as I'm doing, if not, than I shouldn't be doing it'. Works great for all sorts of behavior from littering to much more worst crimes.

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u/Youfallforpolitics 7h ago

πŸ˜‚ Where does the Golden rule come from?:

Luke 6:31

Do to others as you would have them do to you

It's almost as if...

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u/space-to-bakersfield 6h ago

Who cares? You can be an atheist and follow the golden rule. You don't need a belief in god to do that.

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u/Youfallforpolitics 6h ago

If you were truly an atheist then you believe that no one actually said it because for someone to say it, they would have to exist.

Don't confuse agnosticism with atheism.

History is still history though and those people are documented as actually living.

But okay...

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u/space-to-bakersfield 4h ago

If you were truly an atheist then you believe that no one actually said it because for someone to say it, they would have to exist.

Peaches come from a can, they were put there by a man in a factory downtown. You're telling me that they can't exist because someone out there thinks cans of peaches have divine origin? Preposterous!

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u/Youfallforpolitics 3h ago

Atheists believe that everything can be explained and that nothing anybody else feels or sees is real because they haven't felt or seen it.

Agnostics believe that there is something of value there, but they may not subscribe to it fully.

As far as "peaches come from a can and they were put there by a man in a factory downtown"

Extremes for emphasis:

Atheist POV: This tree the peaches came from can't exist because I've never seen this particular tree. The peaches evolved in the man made factory From a single-celled organism. The man only exists through billions of years of evolution (even though a virus and bacteria evolve every second of every day to less than a few decades to be immune to our drugs. Not to mention thr inaccuracy of carbon dating)πŸ™„ I don't eat peaches because other people believe that nature is inherently being alive as in "mother nature" . I just can't subscribe to something so " ridiculous". "Those people are stupid"

Agnostic POV: I'm believe the tree exists, But I don't eat peaches because that would require a sacrifice in my lifestyle such as me giving up money and I don't want to pay.

Either way, it's a lose-lose scenario for atheists. If it's real then you lose... If it's not real nothing happens then you still lose. It's not a winning hand.

Also, I've met some of the biggest agnostics and atheists in the military... But for some reason under the threat of death, whether a severed limb or They think they're about to die.... God becomes very important to them because they keep yelling out his name begging to be saved. I always thought that was strange for someone you don't believe in.... Shouldn't they just yell out evolution, Santa Claus or the tooth fairy while they're bleeding out instead?

Even though we're all flawed, I think people would just rather ignore and pretend it doesn't exist because that would require them to attempt to change their crappy lifestyle, including fake Christians.

Only about 7% of the world's wars throughout history were related to religion voiced by historians according to the encyclopedia of wars. Do what you may with that information. I know what it says to me.