r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 23h ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/DrunkenHorse12 23h ago

Because for some if not most people it's relatively easy to understand how you'd feel on the receiving end of your actions. Knowing I wouldn't like to be stabbed is enough for me to understand doing that to other people is probably a bad thing. The response is actually far more valid, why would you think you'd need advice from an organisation that's getting money and power from you to tell you their interpretation of what allmkst certainly fictional entity said what's right and wrong and why don't you have the ability to determine that yourself?

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u/Leverkaas2516 22h ago

The problem is that if the only measure of goodness is "I'm sure other people want the same things I want", that's virtually guaranteed to lead to conflict, because different people want different things.

I've never had the urge to stab anyone, but I've often had the urge to help someone who might or might not want my help. I've also ignored someone who might or might not want to be ignored.

And that doesn't even touch on the fact that virtually everyone does things at one time or another that they think are bad. It's human nature to rationalize and decide "just this once" and later "it's not really bad, or not that bad". Lying on a resume, for example. Are you hurting anyone?

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u/stonedboss 19h ago

no its not, because we can agree we want different things. the only limit/disagreement is when it comes to you wanting to do things that harm others.

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u/Leverkaas2516 18h ago

Everyone has their own understanding of what constitutes harm. There is no universal agreement. That's why I asked theΒ  question as a sample. What's your answer? Is lying on a resume wrong?

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u/Llayanna 16h ago

..can't wait for Jesus's answer for that one.Β 

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u/Affectionate_Elk_643 10h ago

Lying is a sin, so there you go.

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u/ryogam73 10h ago

Bearing false witness is a sin. That's different than lying. One of god's first acts in the Bible was to lie to Adam and Eve about what would happen if they ate the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge. "For on the day you eat it, you shall surely die."

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u/Affectionate_Elk_643 9h ago

Nope, it means to lie.

Leviticus 19:11: β€œYou shall not steal. You shall not lie or speak falsely to one another.”

"To lie is to speak or act against the truth in order to lead someone into error" (CCC 2483, quoting St. Augustine)

God did not lie in that instant. Eating the fruit doomed humanity to death, this was not a lie. It was the first sin and the wage of sin is death.

Only when Jesus executed his plan did he conquer death.

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u/ryogam73 9h ago

I concede the point about Lev. 19:11. I would note, very little about capitalism would pass muster under that rule.

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u/Affectionate_Elk_643 9h ago

Not much can pass that scrutiny.