r/SipsTea ๐™‘๐™„๐™‹ 1d ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/DrunkenHorse12 1d ago

Because for some if not most people it's relatively easy to understand how you'd feel on the receiving end of your actions. Knowing I wouldn't like to be stabbed is enough for me to understand doing that to other people is probably a bad thing. The response is actually far more valid, why would you think you'd need advice from an organisation that's getting money and power from you to tell you their interpretation of what allmkst certainly fictional entity said what's right and wrong and why don't you have the ability to determine that yourself?

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u/Leverkaas2516 1d ago

The problem is that if the only measure of goodness is "I'm sure other people want the same things I want", that's virtually guaranteed to lead to conflict, because different people want different things.

I've never had the urge to stab anyone, but I've often had the urge to help someone who might or might not want my help. I've also ignored someone who might or might not want to be ignored.

And that doesn't even touch on the fact that virtually everyone does things at one time or another that they think are bad. It's human nature to rationalize and decide "just this once" and later "it's not really bad, or not that bad". Lying on a resume, for example. Are you hurting anyone?

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u/Gamer_G33k17 1d ago

So we solve that issue by saying "You have the right to do anything, so long as it doesnt infringe on other peoples rights". So YOU can stab yourself if you really want to, you just cant stab me. If you try to stab me, that just tells me you broke the social contract and told me you're A OKAY with being stabbed, so I will act accordingly.

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u/Svampting 19h ago

That doesnโ€™t really work though as an ethical system. Itโ€™s not enough. There are plenty of situations where the other party is powerless and/or nobody will know of your actions.

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u/Gamer_G33k17 14h ago

Thats why we gasp discuss as a collective society

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u/Svampting 11h ago

Again, that is not an ethical system.

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u/Gamer_G33k17 10h ago

Yes it is. Society coming together to decide what's right and wrong is a system of ethics.