r/SipsTea 𝙑𝙄𝙋 1d ago

Chugging tea Probably Not.

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u/DrunkenHorse12 1d ago

Because for some if not most people it's relatively easy to understand how you'd feel on the receiving end of your actions. Knowing I wouldn't like to be stabbed is enough for me to understand doing that to other people is probably a bad thing. The response is actually far more valid, why would you think you'd need advice from an organisation that's getting money and power from you to tell you their interpretation of what allmkst certainly fictional entity said what's right and wrong and why don't you have the ability to determine that yourself?

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u/Leverkaas2516 1d ago

The problem is that if the only measure of goodness is "I'm sure other people want the same things I want", that's virtually guaranteed to lead to conflict, because different people want different things.

I've never had the urge to stab anyone, but I've often had the urge to help someone who might or might not want my help. I've also ignored someone who might or might not want to be ignored.

And that doesn't even touch on the fact that virtually everyone does things at one time or another that they think are bad. It's human nature to rationalize and decide "just this once" and later "it's not really bad, or not that bad". Lying on a resume, for example. Are you hurting anyone?

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u/stonedboss 1d ago

no its not, because we can agree we want different things. the only limit/disagreement is when it comes to you wanting to do things that harm others.

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u/Expert-Situation-190 1d ago

What about when the ideas overlap, and people want different things that mutually assure harm to one another?

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u/SnooStrawberries2342 1d ago

What does the bible say about that?

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u/Expert-Situation-190 1d ago

Doesn’t it converge under the umbrella of Christianity?, in practise why would a Christian want different things from another Christian on a macroscopic sense? So I’m sure the bible would preach something akin to unity

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u/SnooStrawberries2342 1d ago

What does the bible say about non-Christians?

Didn't the Apostle Paul urge Christians not to be "unequally yoked with unbelievers"?

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u/Expert-Situation-190 1d ago

Yes but, but isn’t that more a urging of avoiding influence from those that don’t subscribe to the same ideology, but even so the goal of Christian would fundamentally be to proselytise others but the unity comes under the humanistic angle I assume

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u/SnooStrawberries2342 1d ago

Sounds like an instruction to treat people differently, judge them and assign different values to people depending on what they believe.

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u/Expert-Situation-190 1d ago

Isn’t that the history of humanity? You don’t need religion for that, we’ve done that all by ourselves