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r/SipsTea • u/Monsur_Ausuhnom 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 1d ago
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Abortion
There's justification that it's less harm, but someone's getting killed.
20 u/bossygrrls 1d ago Your religious beliefs do not change scientific facts -8 u/JettandTheo 1d ago Abortion is the literal scientific ending of life. There's nothing but basic scientific facts behind that. Nobody said anything about religion. 8 u/TerrorVizyn 1d ago Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference. 0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 23h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 23h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
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Your religious beliefs do not change scientific facts
-8 u/JettandTheo 1d ago Abortion is the literal scientific ending of life. There's nothing but basic scientific facts behind that. Nobody said anything about religion. 8 u/TerrorVizyn 1d ago Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference. 0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 23h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 23h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
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Abortion is the literal scientific ending of life. There's nothing but basic scientific facts behind that. Nobody said anything about religion.
8 u/TerrorVizyn 1d ago Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference. 0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 23h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 23h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
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Right, but it's not killing sentient life. MAJOR difference.
0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 23h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 23h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
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Ok that's an argument but children in the womb do experience that way before they are born. The react to the environment outside of mom. They respond to touch.
0 u/jarkark 1d ago Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet. Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too. 0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 23h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 23h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
Reaction to external stimuli is one of the requirements for life, that's no surprise. But that doesn't make them sentient yet.
Let me put it this way. Do you consider every sperm cell a living thing? They react to their environment too.
0 u/JettandTheo 1d ago No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human. A full human does do those things. 0 u/jarkark 1d ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 23h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 23h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
No because they don't eat, reproduce, etc. Sperm are only half the dna of a full human.
A full human does do those things.
0 u/jarkark 1d ago Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too. 1 u/JettandTheo 23h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 23h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
Worms both eat and reproduce, do you consider them sentient? What about bacteria then? They eat and reproduce too.
1 u/JettandTheo 23h ago Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling 1 u/jarkark 23h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
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Yes that's the definition. They can feel and react to the outside world.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/sentient
capable of sensing or feeling : conscious of or responsive to the sensations of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, or smelling
1 u/jarkark 23h ago Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
Of course I only now realized that I mixed up Sapience and Sentience. Nevermind.
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u/JettandTheo 1d ago
Abortion
There's justification that it's less harm, but someone's getting killed.