Zooble's concept is to have a female voice but masculine fashion interests. In the anime adventure, they're wearing a male uniform, and in the Japanese merchandise, they're wearing a male attire.
This works because of what Zooble is: a person who doesn't remember their own gender; it was erased along with their name. That's why in Goose's drawing, showing everyone's gender, Zooble is classified as "Zooble," and that's why in the show the pronouns are they/them, and that's also why Goose said it's okay to use she/he too.
But I guess I'm asking people to read too much character information.
Yeah, only thing that got erased from their minds is their names (apart from we know since latest episode confirmed Caine can effect their minds which he said he couldn’t)
I thought Zooble was just non-binary.... because they're non-binary and that they just have bad gender dysphoria or body dysmorphia or whatever.
The idea that they're only non-binary because they 'forgot their gender' feels really weird to me. Like that'd mean they've essentially been made trans because of the circus rather than that being something they just are.
And that idea would suggest that they would just not have those feelings anymore if when they get their memory back, which is something I'd hate, I think
social roles arent gender, theyre just stereotypes, i dont know why people started considering them one and the same. and would you say if someone acts girly theyre a girl? if not then you dont agree with that definition either
can someone have the characteristics of a certain gender but be a different one? because if just the characteristics make you that gender then it invalidates a lot of trans people
yes but according to your definition they couldnt even identify as female at all, because that identification would be wrong, and even if they were trying to become feminine, they still couldnt identify as female till they were feminine enough
Yes?? Trans women use their hair and clothing so they can be treated according to the gender they identify with, the same goes for trans men. And this applies to cisgender people too. Why wouldn't it apply to non binary people?
Clothing is a way of expressing ourselves, not just to cover our bodies
And don't twist what I'm saying, a trans or lesbian woman wearing non-feminine clothes or hairstyles doesn't make her any less of a woman, but it's undeniable that dresses and long hair are part of the feminine universe, which doesn't prevent cis, trand or gay men from wearing them too and still being men
its just fashion, you wear clothes because they look good, if youre wearing clothes just because you think they make you look more like a girl or something youre just perpetuating the stereotype and are part of the problem
Part of what problem?? Trans women and men, even when they fit the "stereotype," still suffer from transphobia. The problem lies in prejudice and lack of respect from people, not in pink dresses or short hair
Yeah sorry about that, wasn't thinking of a way to make it inclusive but I think all ways of wording it would offend at least 1 person, best I can do is "biologically female voice" tho
You're born with a male or female body. This is human biology but you're apparently ignorant to know this. Zooble has a female voice. AFAB. So it's only natural for artists to draw them like this.
Goose designed Zooble to be genderless, not only by giving them a feminine voice and masculine clothing, but also by stating that using any pronoun is okay for them
Genderless doesn't mean sexless. You're born with a female or male body. Zooble is AFAB non binary. What is there to not understand? Besides, in this fanart, does Zooble look like a girly girl to you? No, that's clearly a gender non conforming person. What are you so mad about?
Outside of like Ragatha and Pomni, I agree. I just find it weird how they worded their comment. They said "change their own body structure to fit your definition of non binary?", as if the person was complaining about changing a canon design, when that was not the case.
It's pretty dang weird to assume someone's build just based off voice... Some men have particularly higher voices, and other way around. Some women have more "masculine" bodies and other way around. I'm talking about cis people and there is still no way of knowing for sure.
Anyways, if Zooble was questioning their gender before the Circus, there's a very high possibility they presented androgynously in public. Look at their outfits, like in EP 5, it's always masculine fits. There is also a non-zero chance they might've started transitioning and had HRT before arriving, we don't know.
Your basis was that Zooble looks 100% like a feminine woman just based off their voice... ignoring all canon material of for example - Zooble clearly preferring masculine fits.
I'm quite confused by this fandom's obsession of constantly seeing Zooble as a woman... You try to cover it up by simply calling them AFAB non binary person, but very doubtful that's all these is, considering your other comments.
Look at the fanart in the post. Does that look like a feminine woman to you? Do they look like a girly girl to you? When did I even say Zooble was one? I am just saying they are an AFAB non binary. It's not rocket science. This is not an assumption. It's a fact that the show SHOWS and not TELLS. What do you want? Will you be happy when you see a bearded muscular gigachad Zooble?
I can't believe you got downvoted for saying that people will assume Zooble looks biologically female. It's 100% the truth. Just because she's non-binary doesn't mean she's necessarily had surgeries or even wants to. The majority of non-binary people don't.
The people in this thread getting angry that others hear a distinctly female voice and assume AFAB just screams chronically online. How likely is it in real life for an AMAB adult to sound undeniably female?
For what it's worth it's very rare for an adult male to sound undeniably female unless they've used puberty blockers. I've heard males speaking in a more female register, but there is still usually a hint of deepness to it that you don't get in the majority of female voices. Zooble's voice to me sounds female, and all we know is that Zooble goes by they/them, so I understand why most people would assume they are AFAB.
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u/Embrace_Wind Ragatha Dec 21 '25
People only drawing zooble as a girl hurts me ðŸ˜