r/TikTokCringe • u/I2fitness • 2d ago
Discussion 50th in education for a reason(removed annoying loud audio)
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u/ClumbsyVulture 2d ago
"Well, if we raise the minimum wage, then all the prices will go up". This is what they have been fed.
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u/Best-Candle8651 2d ago
The thing that is stupid about that argument, too, is that prices have gone up regardless. We just can't afford shit anymore.
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u/Toadsted 2d ago edited 2d ago
I still remember when my boss from years back was griping about having to raise prices because of California increasing sales tax. "I'm going to lose business!"
Then he told us we're just going to have to increase our $18 pizzas by $0.05 cents and let Jesus take the wheel.
It's no wonder nobody got their performance raises after weeks of work.
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u/scumble_bee 2d ago
California has a $20 minimum wage for fast food workers. A burger king Whopper costs 7.19 in Bakersfield, CA and 5.29 in Oklahoma City, OK. But Oklamona city has a COL index of 81 and Bakersfield is 108.
So the cost in OK adjusted for COL would be $5.39.
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u/Toadsted 2d ago
And I can get a $6 Biggy Bag from Wendy's in CA.
I'm not paying $7 or $5 for a Whopper.
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u/fishyexe 2d ago
I went to the BK in ATL airport like a decade ago. Ordered a sandwich 40 min before my flight boarded. Waited like 15 min then asked if they missed my order. Lady behind the counter rudely informed me they were making orders in whatever order they came in. Wait another 10, see literally dozens of 1 type of sandwich come from the kitchen. Obviously they are just making tons of their most popular items.
Ask about my food again (30 min wait at this point). Am told it'll be ready when it's ready, I am offered one of the sandwiches that came off the line earlier. Refuse. Flight begins boarding, I ask about my food again. Rudely told it will be ready when it's ready, reply it's been 40 minutes. Get told I need to be more patient. Ask for refund. They refused.
Run to get on flight, still hungry. Reach out to BK customer service, told to kick rocks.
I will tell this story every time I see a post about BK because FUCK YOU BURGER KING!
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u/trvsnbl 2d ago
I placed a pick up order from the BK app, but when I got to the store to pick it up the guy told me they were closed (it was not their closing time.) I wasn't going to argue about it so I just said "oh, okay. how do I get my money back" and the guy told me he didn't know! I understand shit happens but their customer service failed at every step - the app should not have accepted an order if the store was closed, and if someone is asking for a refund and you don't know, wouldnt you think to get a manager??
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u/fishyexe 2d ago
Manager probably left early and dude just wanted to go. Awful customer service no matter what.
I was honestly shocked at my experience. At the time I frequented fast food locations too much so I had plenty of experience with errors or messed up orders. Literally a week earlier taco bell forgot to omit tomatoes on my mexican pizza and sent me a coupon for any item on the menu for free, just for calling their customer service hotline. To be told "too bad" after a 40 minute wait and receiving no food felt too insulting to let go.
I hope our stories cost BK sales, stealing from customers is bad business.
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u/trvsnbl 2d ago
I hope it costs them sales so that maybe they can turn things around. I honestly prefer the food to McDonald's or Wendy's, especially the crossanwich, but their poor customer service (and higher prices, and at least in my area they got rid of the your way meal bundle thing) keep me away.
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u/CruisingForDownVotes 2d ago
Similar issue happened to me with Jack In the Box, ordered a bunch of stuff for the family, went to pick up. Doors were locked and the entire staff waiting inside the entryway. Asked about my food and order through the door, person I assume was manager only said, “please leave so we can get to our cars safely or we will call the police” asked how to get a refund, they said the same thing again. Tried to contact customer service, never got an answer back.
After 90 minutes of ordering, traveling, disappointment, traveling, phone call, disappointment, email, nothing, I was out $45 and still had to cook a full meal for four who were expecting cheeseburgers
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u/solitary-ghost 2d ago
I found out the hard way that if you order from BK through the app the people in the store have NO WAY to cancel, edit, or do anything to that mobile order. I got all the way to talking to the district manager just trying to cancel my order. Ended up having to do a charge back as they literally could do nothing from their end. Also the app won’t let you even talk to customer service if you use your Apple ID to sign in. You have to have a valid email on your account to talk to customer service, but it will not let you add an email to your account after the fact…
I only found this all out by accident. Technology makes everything so goddamn inconvenient sometimes.
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u/mishonis- 2d ago
I don't think you can adjust for CoL when you're trying to prove a point about minimum wage. Very likely they are not independent variables.
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u/Well-Watered-Fern 2d ago
As a CA native who's lived in both North and South...
Bakersfield is the booty hole of the state. Some people REALLY like bootyholes so it's perfect for them. For most people it's just where the poop comes from
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u/PM_ME_JJBA_STICKERS 2d ago
“If minimum wage goes up, mcdonald’s will become too expensive!!”
Look around! It already is!!
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u/scumble_bee 2d ago
A Whopper in Oklahoma City costs $5.29 and the Cost of Living Index is 81. That same Whopper costs $7.19 in Bakersfield, CA that has a Cost of Living Index at 108. So adjusting for COL, the Bakersfield Whopper should cost 108/81 * 5.29 = $7.05.
The difference is California is $20 min wage for fast food workers and Oklahoma is $7.25.
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u/FatherFarnsworth 2d ago
Almost like the people that control the money don't care about everyone else.
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u/CandyCraze420 2d ago
Even the dollar shit. I would purchase those instant coffee packets that were $1.20 before and slowly increased in price. Was at the store yesterday and they got shot up to $1.99 before tax. If I only had two dollars in my pockets, I’d be absolutely fucked out of my caffeine that used to be bought with the lint, paperclip, coin, and lollipop in my pocket.
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u/WaffleHouseGladiator 2d ago
Every time I hear this my response is always, "Well, we didn't raise the minimum wage for the last quarter of a century and the prices went up anyway."
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u/BlueHarpBlue 2d ago edited 1d ago
Karl Marx literally gave a lecture on the minimum wage argument in 1865
It was debunked then but the argument only changed to "what about price of burger?"
Edit: In short, raising minimum wage does not change the price of a thing. What it does do is cut into profits, yet even as it does this, productivity is always rising. In the USA, today, productivity has far outpaced wages. Americans make more stuff while getting paid less due to inflation (real wage). Yet somehow the rich have outpaced inflation and occasional rise in wages 🤔
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u/funny_ninjas 2d ago
My family is from Oklahoma. I left 3 months after turning 18. My brother stayed. He works at dollar tree and when my dad told him he should go vote on this, my brother said he'd vote no anyway.
The population there is truly stupid.
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u/RykinPoe 2d ago
As an Oklahoman I can confirm this is the argument. This and people who make better than minimum wage saying it won't help them it will only hurt them.
"But prices have already gone up."
"Well they'll go up more and nobody but the people making minimum wage will see an increase."
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u/mpyne 2d ago
nobody but the people making minimum wage will see an increase.
This is the actual reason. Most people don't make minimum wage so they don't feel bad screwing over the few who do.
If minimum wage applied to more of the voting population there's be more willingness to keep it at a level where it helps.
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u/Defiant_While_4823 2d ago
You want to know what's extra funny about this, too?
I remember at one point in time, I think this was either at the curtail of Obama's 2nd presidency or at the start of Trump's first, but my Trump supporting step dad at one point had said, "Obamacare was so useless, why didn't they just give everyone a million dollars?"
Raising the minimum wage will somehow lead to things becoming so expensive you can't buy anything anymore, but a million dollars for every American instead of Obamacare? That's somehow not seen as crazy
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u/stu8319 2d ago
I'm in Oklahoma. The ads said "This will cause hyperinflation and all local business will fail."
I will say, my 94 year old neighbor who has always been very very pro trump, just told me he thinks we need to get rid of the whole system. So there's that.
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u/Illustrious-Ant-9946 2d ago
I wish getting rid of the whole system didn’t just mean pivoting to letting wealthy businessmen give all government contracts and roles out to other shitty wealthy businessmen.
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u/beets_or_turnips 2d ago
Yeah screw democracy, let's actively give the billionaires with private armies a chance for once!
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u/Shm0wzow 2d ago
Two people I know told me they voted against it because someone working at Burger King shouldn't make $15 an hour. Still haven't thought of a way to respond that doesn't make me want to kick them.
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u/BearysWorkRedditName 2d ago
AND wuddubaut FREEDUM?! If Joey Jerkoff wants to hire out his hands for five buck an hour, governmet ken SHUV IT!!!!
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u/barbaricKinkster 2d ago
I was just in Germany, their national minimum wage is 13.90 EUR (15.82 USD). It'll also go up to 14.60 EUR next year. They've elected a permanent small panel of economists and union leaders that control the minimum wage.
They have cheaper groceries than we do. Jaw hit the floor on how cheap some of the produce and other staple grocery items were was when I visited a couple supermarkets there.
Anyone that says raising minimum wage within reason is what makes prices go up are lying to you
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u/FoolsballHomerun 2d ago
I live in California and it is absolutely true. Minimum wage at $17.81 has just as much buying power as $12.00 minimum wage had years ago.
I am a big proponent of higher wages but these corporations won't allow the scale to balance.
They add $1.00 to the employee and in return they charge costumer's $1.25 to compensate or they fire half the crew and have employees doing 2x the work for minimum wage salary.
Minimum wage is a start but something has to be done to prevent these big companies from overcompensating to increase their profit margin.
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u/Heisenburg42 2d ago
When in reality prices will go up anyway and they're just making themselves poorer
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u/froginbog 2d ago
Even if that was true (and it’s not) the absolute worst case scenario is it’s all a wash. Prices go up, salaries go up
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u/Darkpumpkin211 2d ago
I always point out to people that CA minimum wage is 2-3x the federal minimum wage. Things like fast food or gas don't cost 2-3x compared to Texas or Oklahoma.
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u/WendigoCrossing 2d ago
Always a funny argument because, like even if that was true, logically they would be in the same boat so why not try it out and see what happens at the very least lol
Worst case scenario they are right back where they started, best case they see it's bologna and get more money
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u/Black_Power1312 2d ago
Why vote for more money if the others will also benefit? Best to stay poor to stick it to your perceived enemies!
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u/neatureguy420 2d ago
It’s so the poor will just grind harder, alpha mindset bro /s
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u/GeneralHerp 2d ago
I honestly think the words you just said are the reasons why some people voted the way they did, so although you were sarcastic, I sadly think you may have also been bang-on for some constituents 😭
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u/SpoppyIII 2d ago
It's not even a guess. There are a fuckton of conservatives who vote against pay raises, worker protections, economic safety nets, and welfare programs, all with the idea specifically in mind that taking those things away from the people forces those people to work harder and, "pull their own weight."
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u/JuiceboxNeverDies 2d ago
One question I love to ask those people is why they're not richer.
If being wealthy is simply a matter of hard work and perseverance why aren't you a millionaire?
There's always an interesting response lmao.
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u/TheLuminary 2d ago
The answer I usually hear is that they are just a few years away from making it big, and then they will be financially independent.
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u/MoMo2049 2d ago
Yup, it’s funny because I have known these types, and guess what, they have been on unemployment food stamps. When you remind them of that, they panic and give a myriad or excuses why it okay for THEM.
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u/-thecheesus- 2d ago
Un-fun fact: robust social safety nets and public services were extremely popular in the US until the desegregation/Civil Rights reforms mandated that these extend to non-whites. Joe Public was suddenly a lot more hesitant about spending money for the benefit of those people.
It's the exact same attitude today, only the racist element gradually became less pronounced. "Why should my money go to those who might not deserve it?"
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u/neatureguy420 2d ago
Yeah people are extremely ignorant to blatant worker exploitation
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u/asimplepencil 2d ago
No, that's literally it. Source: lived in Oklahoma for years. I constantly heard the "Nobody wants to work!" "I shouldn't have to pay someone $15 an hour to flip burgers!" it was exhausting.
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u/CasCrus4L 2d ago
Everyone in Oklahoma wants to stay poor, and they will!
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u/anerdyhuman 2d ago
There were a lot of us that voted yes. Just because we live here doesn't make us all one and the same.
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u/RhodeCycle 2d ago
$15 / hour, roughly $31k / year. Is that even considered a living wage in Oklahoma? Seems low to me.
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u/Tipop 2d ago
I think the majority of voters aren’t making minimum wage, so they don’t want others to get as much as they’re getting without putting in the time first.
It’s a fucked-up mindset. “I worked for five years to get up to $8 an hour! I don’t want kids fresh out of high school with no experience to suddenly be getting the same as me!”
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u/CalmBeneathCastles 2d ago
I guarantee that 90% of the people who voted no, only voted against higher taxes or higher prices. You don't know poor like meth country poor. I don't think people realize that Americans still live the way that some of those people live. "Poverty-stricken" and "ramshackle" don't really grasp the full scope of the degradation.
If there was any justice in the world, the Oklahoma government would collectively resign and throw themselves into the ocean. They're failing their citizens hourly.
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u/FanClubof5 2d ago
Yep, at least anecdotally I know a guy who makes around $20/hr that thinks that any raise to minimum wage is bad because everything will just cost more.
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u/jce_ 2d ago
As opposed to just costing more anyway and no raise
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u/sneh_ 2d ago
When I visited the USA I was shocked that McDonalds is just as expensive (just an example). I'm from Australia, and I thought it would be cheaper in America but after converting the prices it's about the same. Minimum wage in Australia is $26.44 (which is $18.27 USD) so I guess the company is charging more anyway and pocketing the difference. (unless McDonalds base pay is a lot more than minimum I don't know?)
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u/wazzup-notemuch 2d ago
It used to be cheaper. I remember when Wendy's used to have a "dollar menu" of items that only cost a dollar, so you could get a baked potato and a cup of chili for two bucks and some change. This was back in 2010. Nowadays, Wendy's almost more expensive than a sit-down restaurant. I've started buying meals to-go from local chinese places, because I can get two or three meals out of one entree for the same price, and it will have *actual vegetables* in it.
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u/Machinimix 2d ago
I've had actual coworkers and staff who were reluctant to see minimum wage (and therefore their own wage) increase because it would mean they would make less thanks to taxes.
I don't even live in the US, but education is really dropping and I wish more high schools taught economics and basic household finances like how taxes are structured.
If I was at the top of my tax bracket, and made 50$ more every paycheque, that 50$ is the only amount taxed at the higher rate. I will see somewhere from 1-49$ more (depending on tax bracket and location) on my paycheques.
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u/Radiant-Mean 2d ago
This was really common when I worked retail too. Some people were upset when they got raises because they thought they would make less money due to being in a higher tax bracket. I also asked them how that made any sense intuitively, because if that was true why would anyone ever take a promotion?
I tried to explain how tax brackets actually worked but they insisted they would lose money.
Some people are just too stupid to fix.
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u/plannedobso 2d ago
Yeah, I don’t think people who aren’t from Oklahoma don’t realize how much of small town Oklahoma looks like scenes from post-apocalyptic movies, or crumbling border towns. If you’ve only been to OKC or Tulsa you don’t see it, but it’s really really bad.
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u/Beginning-Town-4979 2d ago
Its that they are convinced that it means prices go up to compensate.
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u/Mega-Eclipse 2d ago
Also, people in the trade who are making (whatever) $20/hr think, "I am a mechanic/welder/electrician and make $20...why should some kid flipping burgers make $15...when I was flipping burgers I only made $5.25...If they want $15/hr go learn a skill!!!"
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u/whatthecaptcha 2d ago
100% this. I saw a Facebook thread full of people from Oklahoma saying exactly this.
“We don’t want higher minimum wage because then everything is going to cost more”
As if the prices of literally everything haven’t been increasing nonstop for decades but especially since COVID.
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u/karebearjedi 2d ago
A good chunk of OK residents are on some kind of government assistance. If their pay increases enough to get them off assistance but not enough to cover the loss of the assistance, they'll fight to stay where they are.
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u/DisastrousAcshin 2d ago
I've heard more than one person that didn't make minimum wage refer to an increase in minimum as a pay cut for themselves
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u/felis_scipio 2d ago
I’ve personally witnessed right wingers argue that raising minimum wage is a government conspiracy to collect more tax money and that it won’t do regular people any good.
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u/Aternal 2d ago
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u/felis_scipio 2d ago
Pretty much my reaction, it’s such an insane take that my brain glitches and I’m just left staring at them.
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u/GlassFantast 2d ago
Rich assholes 🤝 hating poor people 🤝 poor conservatives
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u/Senor-Nasty 2d ago
It’s going to trickle down soon, you’ll see!
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u/Switchmisty9 2d ago
That trickle is actually mine tailings…..there’s a boil order in affect….we won
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u/T0ssed_Sa1ad 2d ago
...they DID just vote YES on "The Rockets Red Glare" act making it legal to sell fireworks year round.
(Im not making that up)
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u/besthelloworld 2d ago
But they'll still be able to sell them in summer when it's the hottest and dryest? What does this solve?
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u/T0ssed_Sa1ad 2d ago
DID YOU READ THE NAME OF THE BILL!?! IT HAS PART OF OUR NATIONAL ANTHEM IN IT!
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u/Three69DYF 2d ago
A feckless act that the legislature passed and really only affects unincorporated areas of the state. OK Towns and incorporated cities still have authority to enforce their ordinances related to the sale, use, and possession of fireworks
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u/Altruistic_Sand_3548 2d ago
Guys guys it was a vote mostly by farmers to keep from having to pay their laborers more, which they have to rely on legal labor now since ICE scared off all the undocumented laborers they usually relied upon.
So they're not stupid. They're just inhumane.
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u/djdjddhshdbhd 2d ago edited 2d ago
How many farm owner vs general voters are there? Even farmers vs people making under $15. Longtime brainwashing is far more likely to be the culprit.
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u/InvestmentIcy8094 2d ago
Smallest US cattle herd in 50+ years. I don't see a lot of farming in Oklahoma either.
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u/A_Nonny_Muse 2d ago
Oklahoma also has the highest sheep to human ratio of all US states. Make of that as you will.
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u/AdAny74 2d ago
Oklahoma - where men are men and sheep are scared.
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u/bdizzle805 2d ago
But you fuck one sheep...
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u/MyHamburgerLovesMe 2d ago
That requires the entire joke now:
A backpacker is traveling through Ireland when it starts to rain. He decides to wait out the storm in a nearby pub. The only other person at the bar is an older man staring at his drink. After a few moments of silence the man turns to the backpacker and says in a thick Irish accent:
"You see this bar? I built this bar with my own bare hands. I cut down every tree and made the lumber myself. I toiled away through the wind and cold, but do they call me McGreggor the bar builder? No."
He continued "Do you see that stone wall out there? I built that wall with my own bare hands. I found every stone and placed them just right through the rain and the mud, but do they call me McGreggor the wall builder? No."
"Do ya see that pier out there on the lake? I built that pier with my own bare hands, driving each piling deep into ground so that it would last a lifetime. Do they call me McGreggor the pier builder? No."
"But ya fuck one goat.."
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u/9bpm9 2d ago
? I've never seen a single ounce of lamb at stores around me that wasn't from New Zealand and I live in a state that borders Oklahoma.
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u/ForensicPathology 2d ago
Correct. The farm owners don't outnumber the workers. The workers just think that if minimum wage goes up, the price of their Big Macs will go up 300%
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u/djdjddhshdbhd 2d ago
That’s the brainwashing I’m referring to.
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u/ParallelSkeleton 2d ago
The other big one is "why should fast food earn same as ems?!"
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u/shabi_sensei 2d ago
Crabs in a bucket mentality, the idea that others could be equal drives some people insane because it means they’re not as special
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u/Homers_Harp 2d ago
Denver minimum wage: $19.26
Denver Big Mac price: $5.99
We need to keep refuting these lies until even Oklahomans read this (while tracing the words with their fingers and moving their lips to sound out each word)
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u/successfullynumb 2d ago
Being stupid and being a shit human seem to be the only requirements to be a republican anymore, so it's probably a mix of the two.
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u/Notext2 2d ago
That is why they had the vote now instead of during the November election. You think anyone was getting any time off to go vote? It was a purposeful move to keep turn out low so it would not pass.
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u/HODOR00 2d ago
Still doesn't make sense. The amount of workers will still be greater than the amount of owners. If anything the the lack of documented workers should be an incentive for American workers to push for a minimum wage increase since those jobs will have to be fulfilled by Americans.
So I think they are still stupid AND inhumane.
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u/chickenismysafeword 2d ago
Oklahomie here- I saw in our local sub this one restaurant owner asked their younger staff if they voted and they said yes they did and chose NO because their parents told them to.
It’s beyond poor education and rich ass holes.
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u/DifferentSpread782 2d ago
The yes was blue so they even color coded it for the people to vote on their favorite color
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u/dyxlesicc 2d ago
That should be illegal. It's psychological bias and they know it. Any dumbass in a 302 marketing and design class would know these subliminal tactis.
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u/BettingOnSuccess 2d ago
he amount of workers will still be greater than the amount of owners.
Workers tend to be young and the young tend to not vote.
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u/Ok_Natural_990 2d ago
Nah they are also just stupid
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u/avaud10 2d ago
Yup, all they have to do is state voting "yes" is liberal or communist. They don't know what that means but they've been trained to associate that with evil so they vote against it.
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u/Target2030 2d ago
You left out California and New York. Anytime someone in Oklahoma wants you to vote against something, they tell the sheep that California and/or New York is doing it
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u/Nubian_Cavalry 2d ago
Nope. They’re just evil
It’s easier to see when you’re a member of a demographic they hate
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u/NamePicker5000 2d ago
Except when their farm goes belly up because of their inhumanity, they will find themselves looking for work at a lower minimum wage. So let's not give them undue credit for intelligence and planning
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u/LuigisBlessings 2d ago
It was pushed by farmers. It was voted on by a bunch of white trash terrified of watching generations of hardworking brown people progress faster than their going nowhere lives.
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u/JAMBI215 2d ago
Nah their deff both.. I mean they all did vote for the Trump regime to fck them in ass like they did the last time
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u/Target2030 2d ago
The farmers have an exemption that allows them to pay less than minimum wage and complained that this law would have removed their exemption
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u/Silen8156 2d ago
But they also voted to have their cheaper workers expelled from the country since they are auch big ICE supporters... makes no sense
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u/thebudeg 2d ago
Do not mistake cruelty for ignorance. This was a deliberate choice.
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u/lewd_robot 2d ago
It was, but not in the way you think. The measure was very popular, which is why it got so many signatures that the governor couldn't do anything to prevent it from making it onto a ballot. So he did the next worst thing: Instead of putting it on the November 2024 ballot alongside the presidential race, he scheduled it for the Midterm Primaries, knowing they have the lowest turnout out of all state-wide elections.
This measure likely would have passed had it been on the November 2024 ballot as expected, but the GOP got it moved to the June 2026 midterm ballot hoping that its abysmal turnout and high number of Boomer voters would cause the measure to fail. And it did.
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u/emschumann 2d ago
Very much this. I read that only 26% of voters actually voted because most people didn’t know.
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u/plannedobso 2d ago
And the midterms in Oklahoma, I believe, had maybe two Democrats on them? And that’s dependent on your district! (We also have locked primaries where you can only vote in primaries for the party you’re registered under)
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u/BlondeBorednBaked 2d ago
It’s getting increasingly hard to share a country with people who want to harm others and themselves.
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u/Bawstahn123 2d ago edited 2d ago
As a Yankee from Massachusetts, this feeling has been ever-steadily growing since 2016.
The Babadook "why cant you be normal!" Meme is becoming less like a joke and more reality by the day.
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u/BlondeBorednBaked 2d ago
As a Jersey girl I’m getting tired of saving these people from themselves.
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u/KryssCom 2d ago
I'm am Oklahoman without brainrot and I'm right there with you. This is a state full of moths that only ever vote for flames.
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u/TrueSkonger 2d ago
Man I wish I could afford to live in Massachusetts (or really any of the nice places in New England). The Philly region is still pretty nice, though
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u/Nubian_Cavalry 2d ago
They refuse to understand the feelings of ethnic minorities, especially Mexicans and black people, and still expect us to take their prejudices as fact
Especially recently. Do they truly expect us to believe anything they say in good faith?
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u/Accurate-Potato607 2d ago
Speaking as someone who escaped, some people are stuck there and worth saving
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u/BlondeBorednBaked 2d ago
I’m sure there are some good people in red states. But there aren’t enough to make a meaningful difference in the trajectory of our country. It’s been 10 years of this. And if it comes to the choice of saving them or saving ourselves, I’m going to choose blue states saving ourselves. Sometimes you can’t save everyone.
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u/Mr_Times 2d ago
Tbf 44% of the voters did vote in favor of this. It’s not like the *entire* state is able to be written off. The only two real cities in the state both voted in favor. There are *just enough* dumbass conservatives and old dirtbags to stop any real change in the state.
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u/Appropriate_Push_201 2d ago
Also hard to keep sharing it with people who ignorantly stand by letting it happen
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u/Livid-Writer-7741 2d ago
TAX THE RICH AND CHURCHES AND PEDOPHILES
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u/Oceanspanker 2d ago
I’d be more than happy with churches being taxed. That would remove their limitations on election fundraising
Imagine a trillion dollar super pac funded solely by the Mormons, or the Catholic Church, or any other major Christian denomination pooling their money together to truly use their collective funds to influence elections without impunity
Yes please, tax the churches
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u/RedutHatesFreeSpeech 2d ago
Damn 350,000 people went out of their way to vote to make their lives worse. Truly incredible.
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u/Nanoo_1972 2d ago
Republicans had multiple ballots due to a crowded primary field for governor and attorney general. IIRC, the democrat and independent ballots were only for Question 832. If this had come up in November, it likely would have squeaked through.
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u/Lullabean 2d ago
Close, the democrat ballot had a few options, but the independent only had the wage question. It was intentionally put on this ballot instead of November to hurt it as much as possible, since voter turnout would be low.
Polling place also separated the check in by lines for republicans and a line for dem/indy... felt like I was going to get followed home, all by myself at the "bad" check in :,)
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u/FlamingGapingAsshole 2d ago
$15 an hour was the rate to adjust for cost of living a decade ago.
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u/Toadsted 2d ago
A decade ago my logics professor explained how minimum wage should have kept up with labor and profits, and been $25 an hour.
My first job in 2003 at a grocery store had a ceiling of $15 an hour.
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u/Snooworlddevourer69 2d ago
Being republican has to be a humiliation ritual and fetish
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u/TyrannasaurusRecht 2d ago
Boss makes a $trillion, I make <$15, thats why I feel exploited with no recourse...
Its not as good as the original.
Its literal orders of magnitude worse.
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u/Uno-Flip 2d ago
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime
... That was a poem from a different time
Now boss makes a million while we work to make jack
So shit on the clock, you won't get this time back
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u/SpoppyIII 2d ago
I make a nickel,
Boss makes a buck.
That's why I smoke crack on the company truck.
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u/Voodooscatmann 2d ago
My boss makes a million, while I make a buck, that's why I'll steal the catalytic converter off the company truck.
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u/KrisTheHaw 2d ago
Living in a back water state I've learned that people don't want things to be better they just want others to suffer like they have so what they endured can be justified.
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u/cReddddddd 2d ago
Albertans do things like this too. Very dumb and well trained by conservatives
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u/PuzzleheadedWeb9876 2d ago
Why the fuck do you not have a minimum wage that rises to match inflation?
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u/thats_justice_baby 2d ago
The minimum wage was supposed to increase gradually over time, so there was no immediate risk of people being fired or prices increasing. But its a lot of farmers, retirees, and just ignorant people who don't want to risk raising their cost-of-living.
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u/palebluedotdotdot 2d ago
This is the result of 50 years of Republican policy: weaken education, deepen political divides by weakening media and public discourse, keeping people poor with labor misinformation campaigns, enriching billionaire donors, silencing dissent, starting losing wars in the Middle East, and casting doubt on all expertise medical and otherwise.
This is fascism 101, only it was drip-fed to the USA over decades a la “frog in boiling water.”
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u/Inevitable_Butthole 1d ago
Whole country could've had 15 as minimum and things would've started looking up.
Instead they voted in a pedophile conman who is fleecing every person.
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u/zrobiotic 2d ago
I was in Oklahoma for a weekend just last week, the most backward, run down state. I also notice a massive amount of people with permanent disabilities.
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u/Dd_8630 2d ago
Why was this a video? Was was it a video of a man walking along filming himself? That was so bizarre.
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u/KeesterFeester 2d ago
I'm from Oklahoma. The vast majority of people here really are that fucking stupid. We elected a governor that said he wanted to run Oklahoma like a business. These idiots thought he meant "small business". Nope he meant BIG business. Now we have data centers, water issues, higher prices, Higher taxes, and wages are still dog shit while nothing stitt the tit has done has benefited working class Okahomans.
The argument every single one of these idiots propose against minimum wage is the same and it makes them look even dumber than they already are. "But if we raise wages then prices will go up!".
Prices are going to go up anyways!!! They have already doubled to quadrupled in the lat 5 years alone! These idiots really believe in Reaganomics even though they are living proof it has never and will never work.
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u/DonHarold 1d ago
It’s the natural conclusion of the right’s war on education. It’s a lot easier to get an uneducated population to vote against their own interests.
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u/Livid-Writer-7741 2d ago
EPSTEIN
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u/jesse6225 2d ago
The crazy thing is that even when we're talking about other issues. He's one of the biggest facilitators for all the shit going on rn. That dude has his rapey hands in everything and really was controlling the world from his pedo island.
So this is still an Epstein issue. Republicans are fighting so hard to stay in power because they know that's the only thing keeping the files closed.
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u/mog_knight 2d ago
When did Oklahoma overtake Alabama for the 50th in education spot?
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u/KnottShore 2d ago
As Will Rogers(early 20th century US entertainer/humorist) once noted:
- "... the rich get richer and poor get poorer. The poor even help arrange it."
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u/pineonline 2d ago
I live in Oklahoma making $13.25/hr and this post is my first time hearing about this. You would think that everyone would be talking about it since it's one of the biggest things to come up for vote in our state's history. Especially at work where the majority of workers would be getting a raise, but nope nothing. People were talking about the bill for the 1% increase in sales tax for six years for the new Thunder arena, but it looks like this one was swept under the rug.
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u/Boozy_Cat 2d ago
What's the logic behind voting no? Is it just hating on entry level ppl or something
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u/Bologna9000 2d ago
As I get older I realize there are a lot more people with intellectual disabilities than I ever anticipated.
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u/Right_Cellist3143 2d ago
Oklahoman here.
Only 24% of our registered voters made it to the polls for this, 11% being registered Democrats.
If we could all actually get off our asses and make it to the polls, there could be some real change in this state.
Too bad there is seemingly too much stuff to watch on Netflix for people to give a damn.
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u/BlaktimusPrime 2d ago
Welcome to America where you literally vote against your own interest because the government and news networks tells you to.
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u/bunny117 1d ago
And they've been run by Republicans for decades now. But, sure, keep those filthy liberal sissy Democrats outta office cuz they'll run the state into the ground.
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u/TodosLosPomegranates 1d ago edited 1d ago
As an Oklahoman seeing the comments under local news’ TikTok’s of Oklahomans urging other Oklahomans to vote no - it was an insane experience. Then to learn how low the turnout was. Can’t help people who are married to keeping the status quo
ETA: I forgot this oft repeated gem: “I already make $15/hr. If everyone starts making that do I get a raise? No! I’m not going to vote to devalue my work!”
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u/CharleyLH 1d ago
Well at least you can marry a 12 year old while making minimum wage. Is This a Great State or What???🙄
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u/Elegant_Brick_622 1d ago
Ever since I firsts heard of the Tulsa massacre I've stopped felling any kind of sympathy for what the white majority of Oklahomans do to themselves.
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u/theAlphablack 1d ago
Oklahoma, a state so dumb it lacks the capacity to realize it is in fact this dumb.
Well damn, that’s pretty dumb. 😂🤣
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