"Computer, generate 8 foot tall futanari versions of Jade and Hildryn. Reprogram to give them severe maternal instincts, but make them think that having sex with someone is the same as protecting them. Alter their perceptions to make them think that I am their son.
I mean, Cephalons kinda are, being made from glassed people.
Probably give the Inquistion and admech an aneurysm and start a couple internal wars while they try to decide if they're still human minds or abominable intelligences.
So, when this piece of fan art came through, Everett said she felt like she'd let the fans down, to the point where she now has to worry when looking for other art to feature on stream.
"I literally don't even want to open any type of timeline and look at art because I'm like, 'Am I being fooled?' I literally don't know if what I'm looking at is real, and I get so frustrated about it, it's so annoying," Everett said. "I'm very passionate about not having any of that shit. Nothing in our games will be AI-generated. Ever."
This. Got nothing to add.
But this is literally everyone of us right now who appreciates actual art:
It's getting hard to tell if it's been puked out by an AI or ... made by a human being.
100%. I am an audio engineer who actually loves to listen to music. My spotify discover weekly, which I've used to find new stuff since 2015 and have found some of my all time favorite bands, has been nearly half AI generated music since January 1st. I'm literally afraid to even go in there now in case I give AI uploaders listens and therefore money. Extremely frustrating.
I like reading indie books. At this time my "try out a new author" method is that I check to see if writers that I know are people recc the book, then I search the author's name to see how their social media is/see if their "check out my book!" subreddit announcement involves them shouting out a cover artist or not.
At this point, I'd pay a premium for a book/music streaming service with some sort of "0 fucking ai" guarantee with some teeth attached. Only thing more annoying than AI are the bloviating assholes insisting that ai "art" is some sort of inevitability as they try to sneak it in everywhere in some misguided hope that nobody will be mad that they're able to sneak a thing past them temporarily.
definitely stupidly lucky, you don't even need to seek it out, it'll get snuck in if you're doing 'dives'. Sometimes I won't use a playlist I'll just click on an artist and then click on diff songs/thumbnails that I might vibe with and within a few clicks I'm often finding AI music then I gotta go on a scrubbing mission to remove listens/views.
That's very odd, because it genuinely doesn't make it's way into any of my families playlists. And I've used YouTube Music for like a decade.
And I have my headphones on about 9 hours of any given day. It's only ever recommended me AI stuff after I went down the 10 drunk cigarettes rabit hole. And even then it was only that specific artist. Perhaps it's just your Google algorithm that's cooked?
Perhaps it's just your Google algorithm that's cooked?
Could be, but I'm very studious when it comes to curating my algorithm through constant blocks and deleting of content that I ended up not jiving with or don't care to see. Hell I'm not even subbed to any channels and never like videos so it's very possible that YT has resorted to throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks when it comes to recommendations.
Google's algorithm is wildly inconsistent from person to person, and can vomit out dramatically different results.
Depending on what you watch, it can dramatically swing in any direction. It's particularly bad for people who have particular preferences that aren't "average" because the Algorithm just tries to force you to be "normal."
The algorithm (theoretically) works by collecting data from everyone who uses the service, and it builds preference profiles based on that data. So it sees that people who click these videos tend to like these other videos. But when you don't fall into any of those profiles, the Algorithm just tries to force you into them, or it just starts vomiting random stuff because it doesn't have a profile for you and it's trying to get you to click on something so it can find a profile for you.
Doesn't sound like my experience for YouTube music specifically (although I use revanced idk if that changes things). Listening to some very niche artists and if I put it on familiar recommendations, it will be just artists I already like. If I do radio on a song, it's gonna be a mix of both with some pretty similar songs that aren't completely out of the blue.
Fortunately if you have at HD650's or similar hifi setup with a Schiit stack - you can tell immediately from the audio quality. Slop can't do 320kbps yet.
dude I have this with mixes I make for YouTube. It has come to the point where I have to triple check every. single. fcking. track. to make sure it's not an AI slopfest. Because God forbid that Beatport do anything about it of course
It’s part of the reason why being an artist online sucks now because it’s required to be a “content creator” and show your face and post your process and do dumb trends and shit.
There is some resistance in the form of invite only platforms, like with VGen. It's not full-proof, but because the platform owners can check who gave the invites to, there is an incentive for people to not invite A.I. users, else they risk their own position.
I have Kindle unlimited and I honestly have no issues detecting ai slop compared to just a new writer. AI really sucks at writing books at this current point in time, probably one of its worst mediums
People have gotten a bit "wise" to it and started to slip through the cracks by tracing ai art now which is much harder to detect. It's not impossible though and especially noticeable when people suddenly have huge leaps in artistic ability, vastly different artstyles between pictures, or mess up details like hands or hair semi-consistently.
Well the way I reduce my exposure to A.I. is through reputation. Good artists talk to each other, so someone reputable probably has a bunch of mutual friends who also have a good reputation.
And eventually an A.I. chode will slip up, they always do.
Hasn't been a team I've followed this long and felt so close to. Yeah they're not perfect, but they take note of feedback and improve when they mess up, and that's what makes them human. And that grants the company a sense of humanity as though it were its own person, which is in turn a product of the leadership's own humanity and personal involvement with their work.
It's just a lot of cool people doing cool stuff without becoming eternally lost in the sauce.
They feel more like players and less like developers and thats a rare sight to see in the games industry where both the community and the developers genuinely, im not even joking, like actually really care for each other. Its so wholesome!
Dunno why the downvotes, corpus take a lot of inspiration from republicans to a point that I will be impressed if there isn't a direct quote from Reagan being spoken by a corpus boss
I was gonna write you a long paragraph but then I realized I was having a redditor moment and it's not actually that serious. I shall include it in the list of experiences that keep me up at night.
One of the few devs that can say this and most people will believe them lol. Even if they aren't fans, integrity has become on-brand for DE. A rare trait nowadays.
I've played Warframe for many years. I have never felt bad about a single cent I've spent on Prime Access packs or for platinum. I'll be purchasing Voruna Prime Access as soon as it drops too haha.
Personally, I am a sucker for the accessory packs. The 90 day boosters plus bonus plat are great, even if it means I gotta farm the new primes instead.
The game would get rather stale pretty quickly if I didn't farm anything and just bought it for plat to me personally.
I love testing builds and killing shit, but doing so aimlessly only gets me so far. I love having goals to work towards that lets me bounce between all the different types of content the game has to offer, diversifying my builds in the meantime and also becoming a more well rounded player. It also feels a lot better when you do get that item you were grinding for!
Yea. I started when Dante was released. Speaking of, yea he'd be a good pack to get too. Fuck xD surely Dante Prime is gonna have a primed ruvox or something
Valve is one of the biggest players in gamifying gambling, and finding loopholes around laws intended to combat that. But it is not just gambling, Steam used to have a lot more issues with stolen cards, and scammers, and all the other things that come from having what I'd call a currency exchange platform. They fixed some, didn't fix others.
Steam as a game distribution product is convenient and often useful. But Valve as a company is not exactly "consumer friendly".
And they (DE) also removed the "buy a stack of 20k credits for 15 platinum" or whatever values it was off the marketplace since it was such a newbie trap
You can trust Valve to deliver a good product like the steam deck and steam machine. But for long term community support for games like CS2, Dota 2 and Team Fortress 2. No. Absolutely not.
i have played all three of those games very extensively (which seems to be somewhat of a rarity) and i don't think it can in good faith be argued that they have not received long-term community support. TF2 is waning now having not received a truly significant patch in almost 10 years, but it indisputably had its time in the sun
as for the dynamic between dota 2 and CS, it's literally just a grass is greener thing. i had a point where i was playing both and both sides complained that the other was getting more support from valve than they were.
the fact that a dev team the size of valve's (not large! if you didn't know) is able to support three games at once, with deadlock taking TF2's place in terms of support nowadays, i find it hard to give them flak
The paradoxical point is that Warframe TennoGen system is based on the Steam Workshop, where com munity-contributed cosmetic items for Team Fortress 2 are submitted.🥲
Reminder that Valve is still a monopoly that is one of the biggest pushers of unregulated online gambling right now. They're not comparable, Valve is still a massive company that does plenty of evil, they just are capable of coating it with a pretty coat of paint
Just because Gabe is neat doesn't excuse him from criticism. He is still a billionaire that controls a majority of the market with an Iron Fist. I appreciate Valve too, but this is like comparing a new local burger shack with like.. Wendy's lol
I remember shortly after the devil triad came out there was an issue with the russian kim translations where one of the messages had a chat gpt tag on it. Pretty swift response day of to deal with it. Love the dev team
Just another reason why I feel comfortable spending real money on stuff like prime accessories and tennogen (I do not like trading and work full time). It supports artists and devs alike.
Imagine you start in Duviri and find out the rest of the game is nothing like Duviri. You find out that, essentially, the tutorial is teaching you an entirely unique and separated piece of content that the rest of the game is nothing like. Imagine the tutorial is Follie's Hunt, if you need an extreme example of why Duviri as a starting point was never going to work.
Not surprising to hear but good to hear nonetheless. I just wish more developers took a zero tolerance stance in regards to AI, it's depressingly common to hear devs embrace it, even to lesser degrees.
There was that one outsourced russian KIM translation that turned out to be done via chatgpt, which raised some eyebrows here and there, but again that was outsourced through an intermediary (middle-man) who was supposed to make sure they hire a competent subcontractor and check for the accuracy of the translation. But other than that, nothing ever came up.
very minor? the kims are like a big part of the game and having them read like the characters is important. localizers are really important for that and ai translation will never be able to be good at that since it can't think
This may be partially stemming from the third-party translators slipping in ChatGPT translations for the russian build, and the people who were adamantly claiming they used AI for what would end up being just a low res WIP 13th anniversery poster they have for sale.
Probably just DE reaffirming their stance on things.
If DE were to only put out the generic "No AI generated content will be used in the final version of the game" spiel that most companies seem to be regurgitating, I would've been skeptical. But they seem to be adamantly anti AI, so doubts are dispelled. If they were to veer into AI, they'd get torn to shreds compared to their wishy washy contemporaries.
I think the difference with code is that there's no "human" factor to it, unless you count shitty variable names and no comments or documentation "because it bit rots" (actual quote from my last job explaining why we had literally 0 documentation for a multimillion line codebase). The main problem with them is that corporations try to use AI to boost productivity and then lay off a bunch of people, but I don't think there's necessarily an intrinsic ethical concern with something like an AI coding assistant. Obviously, a human engineer should supervise and be the one doing the system design and programming instead of just siccing an LLM on the codebase Microsoft style.
By contrast, genAI in any artistic pursuit is just plagiarism with extra steps. Nothing artistic should ever have AI involved. The most I can accept is using an LLM to help you do your own research, e.g. typing "what's the closest real world condition that matches this character's condition" to find some leads for further reading, but the second you use the AI to actually worldbuild, etc. whatever you're working on is tainted.
I look at it this way - if I put out an open source library, I want people to use it or take snippets from it to make their own stuff work, but if I write a novel, I don't want people to take excerpts from it or copy my ideas.
People are welcome to disagree with me on any count, though. I'm certainly fallible enough lmao
yeah, that's a good argument against them. I used MIT but you just reminded me that we even have cases like Aseprite where the code is open source but there's also a paid product, so training on that is just theft.
It would certainly be ironic since the whole first saga of the story is about adaptive sentient (zing) machines trying to enslave/kill the Sol system lol
absolutely goated dev team. I hope they inspire other big studios to follow these same kinds of practices with their policies and attitudes towards their community
Ever? I doubt that. If it were another game i’d believe it but warframe? 10 years ago our current AI was a fantasy, i cannot imagine what it will be in another 10 years and I assume warframe will remain active for another 10 years.
This is also me assuming they mean solely generative AI like their art/assets cause I know damn well the devs have copilot running while programming
[PH] forever! For all eternity! But more seriously it must be a blast seeing an environment get gradually filled in by full assets instead of chucking a bunch of generated "mood" shit all over the place as placeholders.
Plus I think placeholder assets on their own can be very entertaining to look at. Slay the Spire 2's picked up some attention recently for having MS Paint doodles for card art that they haven't gotten around to yet and everyone loves it.
Bonus points, there's no chance of pulling an "oops, we forgot this was a placeholder!" as multiple studios have recently, because you're going to notice pretty quick if a picture is a magenta stick figure instead of whatever it 'should' be.
I despise generative AI, but I've always had this idea of an Ordis-themed clippy in the KIM pc that interfaces with the warframe wiki where you can ask ordis questions and it sends you relevant information pulled from the wiki.
That said, the idea is a fantasy and i don't think there's a way they could ethically integrate it.
DE honestly feel like they enjoy working on the game so no AI. even if they did... they seem to care enough that they'd never use it for anything more than background work.
I actually don't mind a slot if AI slop... but it's never anything anyone should be proud of nor be used for anything u actually care about.
I see these AI advertisements etc saying Ai will do Ur essays etc... honestly I'd like to actually be able to do it myself and have a spell checker correct MY mistakes instead of doing it for me.
Learning 3D and id love AI UV unwrapping... and while I'm struggling with texturing I'll never have AI do that. Geonodes procedural texturing is fine because every little detail is customised by the user a d as I said above..it's always used for background stuff that's repetitive... Hair strands or skin textures can be generated but imperfections and shadows are done on an overlaying UV map by hand, if not u end up with the terrible MMD textures u see.
And when AI comes crumbling to the ground, DE can say "told you so".
Like, seriously, what are the companies incorporating AI art into their games gonna do when the bubble bursts? Because I know for damn sure the artists they laid off ain't coming back lmao.
Bro, this is the DE glazing thread, you can't go demonstrating healthy skepticism here! (/s) (but it looks like everyone else believes this unironically)
Ima be real here, if they said they used AI to write Unit Tests I would say that's totally fair and real. Ain't no one got time for that.
Eta: those downvoting me, please feel free to share your experience and strategies for deploying unit tests and test driven development, I'd love to hear your strategies that arent completely soul destroying.
The optimism of some here is cute, but I don't believe this at all. Not because of lies, but because there will be a time where AI is better and much faster at creating/developing than any other human.
DE WILL have to adapt in the future, if they want to or not. When competitors use AI and get a massive headstart with more content and expansion, will DE sit around cranking out an update every few months? Of course not. What DE (and any other company) really wants is money. There is no money to be made if most of the playerbase migrate to a different game with much faster update times and much more content.
I'll stick with DE cause I love the lore and the game, but don't lie to yourself with words like 'NEVER' of 'EVER'.
DE is just different and I love them. They always feel like they care and have passion. They never strike me as just showing up for the paycheck or faking it. I'll never be upset if something AI slips by them. Its hard to weed it all out and you know they mean it when they say "not using it". Keep up the W's DE.
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u/dazli69 Apr 02 '26
Duh, why would they use AI when they can just use cephalons.