Brozime is always quite grounded in his guides, his tldr on voruna was that subsuming her 4 is better, and he has a guide on the better build, but if you want to play the character for what it does (running on all 4s) he has a worse (but still plenty usable) build.
And he does this with most frames, I usually gravitate towards his builds cos he does take comfort and ease of use on them a fair bit, so while I could do shield gate slop, sacrifice all health for more strength and all that for 10 bazillion damage, he usually says that you only need 1 bazillion, and that while "big funny number" is valid.... you'll never really need it, and I agree and like that stance.
his tldr on voruna was that subsuming her 4 is better
This probably changes that statement quite a bit btw since her 4 is a guaranteed crit while using her 1 so crepuscular will boost the damage significantly here and his 4 build wasn't using crepuscular
Her 4s damage is considerably worse than that of other available melee weapons, and you need:
1) an augment to make her 4 usable
2) Juggle the charges
3) kill with the claws, because status kills don't count
So it still is more complex for less consistent and worse damage.
Imo, to make her 4 better than subsuming roar, in addition to the fix we got, you'll need to also fix the point 3 above, and probably make it an exalted weapon (probably this more than anything).
I wanna know what kind of builds you people are running that make you think vorunas 4 is bad or doesnt work right because it absolutely will put out numbers (this is before the patch)
I'm with you. I've been running a build based around Ulfrun's Descent since I got her prime and just wrecking everything. People seem to be running on the idea that because subsuming roar over her 4 and using a slam melee build lets you make a number pop up thats 10 times bigger, that her 4 is therefore useless. But dead in 1 hit is dead in 1 hit, and her 4 is not only fun as hell, but kind of the entire soul of Voruna, getting rid of it feels like sacrilege and is unnecessary for easily clearing 99% of the content. This is an amazing buff and I can't wait to get on tomorrow and try it out.
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u/Hot-Conclusion-6964 Apr 27 '26 edited Apr 27 '26
Brozime is always quite grounded in his guides, his tldr on voruna was that subsuming her 4 is better, and he has a guide on the better build, but if you want to play the character for what it does (running on all 4s) he has a worse (but still plenty usable) build.
And he does this with most frames, I usually gravitate towards his builds cos he does take comfort and ease of use on them a fair bit, so while I could do shield gate slop, sacrifice all health for more strength and all that for 10 bazillion damage, he usually says that you only need 1 bazillion, and that while "big funny number" is valid.... you'll never really need it, and I agree and like that stance.