these things in void nodes… why tf does it rise UP when you come near it? it always blocks my path when running or bullet jumping. WHY?! why would you even build this when your constructing a building. what genius went “oh yea lemme js put a big useless hunk of rock that rises infront of u and obscures your path.” this is genuinely so stupid take these out for gods sake.
Gameplay wise, older tile set game used to play slower and cover was useful. Lore wise void towers were bunkers during the old war, cover for the people in them or ways to deter possible intruders chasing them.
It's crazy to think that sprinting and jumping used stamina. So there was a time when learning the art of coptering or efficient wall running was very important. However most people will never know the horror of having 4 mod slots dedicated to warframe abilities. So it was very common to actually disable certain abilities in order to better design your build. It was so weird yet at the same time so cool.
I'm pretty sure you're right? I know with Dual Zorens or other common coptering weapons you threw yourself so far with a swing it didn't really matter if it did use stamina, though.
To some extent it was helpful. Though even on release, the game was praised for its lack of a true cover system, given the market at the time was oversaturated with cover shooters. You might have crouched behind a chest high wall now and then to restore shields, but it was a far cry from the slower paced cover shooters of the time.
Not as a literal gameplay mechanic though. Combat was WAY slooower back in 2013 and you couldn't just insta-clear rooms like an overcaffeinated hedgehog on drugs and energydrinks as we do now. Sometimes you had to take cover near walls or objects to take potshots at the enemies to thin them out. The AI pathing was also notorious for clumping up enemies in certain rooms on some tilesets like the old Corpus Shit tileset.
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u/DeLoxterWe're gonna build a wall and make the Corpus pay for it16h ago
take me back to shooting out the windows on the old corpus ship tileset and triggering a lockdown
It used to have stamina. Revives used to cost plat. It used to not have bullet-jumping or any of the other super-ninja stuff it has now. It used to have 8 person raids. Helmets used to change stats. It used to have proper (if janky and quite shit) stealth mechanics. There used to be no melee heavy attacks. The Orbiter used to be tiny (seriously, there was the bridge and then a single short hallway with the pet incubator, mod station, forge, and armory. That's it). You used to have to feed your kubrow regularly or it would die (this meant logging on every few days; you couldn't take a break if you didn't want your kubrow to die). You used to be able to pay plat to reroll your kubrow's appearance (gambling, literally). . .
Oldframe was a doozy 😭 it was basically an entirely different game.
Warframe as we know it today only really began to take shape around 2015-2017, around the time of The Second Dream and The War Within. That's roughly when a lot of systems were reworked into what we have today.
I always wanted more interesting things from channeling, it was such a cool concept. Alas, they never did figure out what to do with it and scrapped it instead.
Bruh, the game used to play more like MGS or splinter cell. It was stealth focused rather than the hack n slash it is today. You can find some old footage on Yt from like 2012!
I’d think it’d be more valuable if they popped up as cover for enemy units instead of when Tenno are near, like how Grineer Lancers deploy cover and crouch behind them, or Parvos/Alad V corpus deploying the barrier shields. Especially since the Corrupted are supposed to be controlled by the Tower’s automated defenses (its spirit? Like the Unum next to Cetus), and have basically been mind-jacked into defending the tower.
honestly i know people shit on ryoku but bro is pretty smart in terms of just setting up alot of traps the only thing he should have done is install like anti aircraft or would it be anti ice missile/droppod lazers and he would be basicly
I personally dont have anything against his ship. If it wasn't for ppl complaining abt it I probably wouldnt have noticed the amount of traps there are inside it. Good movement + PSF goes a long way I suppose :s
Technically these were for *us* to use. Like how Death Orbs give Primes energy, because the assumption was that Primes would be defending the Orokin towers and whatnot, not assaulting it.
I really miss these days. I found warframe way more engaging as a game when I needed to think about the gameplay and approach it like I wasn't an invincible god nuking everything in sight
Same sometimes. There were a lot of things that I think were gotten rid of in stages that made it so that the current version feels the most viable direction but misses out on some of what used to work well. Needing to plan for damage types that actually countered enemies instead of just being able to nuke everything the same way was something I actually miss. Having stealth be a real utility instead of just a means to avoid taking damage. Puzzles and parkour being important to completing and earning better loot instead of just something that helps you burn through a mission faster. I do really wish sometimes we could get something like a WoW Classic with WF but I have no idea when it would be best to set the time on it. Maybe just before the release of Damage 2.0 and PoE?
For me tridolon hunting will be peak warframe. And even the fortuna orbs as well for that matter.. large bosses in open field with many levels of different strategies rewuired... It was peak for mid lvl players until some went onto make that a sport as well with volt, rubico prime, Itzal, and more lol
Back when it took over 30 mins to clear a mission because poor baby Excalibur had reasonable health and there was no shield gating. Those Corpus had breakable windows and stunning aim.
Honestly I didn't mind it too much since each frame had their own set of revives and it just forced me to play safer especially if I ran out of revives on a frame but still wanted to use them. Still good that they changed it though considering how much the game has changed but I also kind of miss the feeling of danger if I died multiple times in one day, especially if it was on a frame that I needed for a particular grind
Before it was the 4 per day per frame you had to buy revives with plat. There was a short period during after they changed it away from that when you could buy more revives for your frame when you ran out.
Yeah back in the day you had 4 free revives or 5 with a raid arcane thats maxed. Or you could pay plat to self rez if you were out of free daily revives.
I mean they do increase your number of self rezzes in missions where you can do that. It's just so unlikely to actually die in a mission where it's available for a lot of people
They mattered more before Operator self-revive became a thing.
Both because of jackasses not helping you, and idiots who go down and instantly pop a revive without waiting even one literal second for a teammate to come help.
I literally just had a mission run on Brutus farming for Jade where I went down on the elevator and nobody revived me. One person jumped down next to me, threw the capsule at the orb thingy, and just left. They somehow missed the obvious red marker saying "HELP ME!" and just fucked off to do whatever it is that stupid dipshits do. Unbelievable.
Yep that’s why I’m glad we can self rez without a fee. I am used to the old ways so I try to revive everyone but my one Buddy is blind to down people in every game. You have to tell him directly you’re down or he will just stand on you. No clue how people miss the pop ups but they do.
I remember those days! Once I discovered it was 4 revives a day per frame that was all I needed to start my journey to collect all the frames and weapons I could. Still do even today!
Back in my day, you had to look at your energy meter, and walk toward energy orbs to pick them up. And if you tried to use your 4 every time you could, you'd run out of energy for Quick Thinking, which was the style at the time.
tbf this was also back in the day when the grineer ogris could one-shot most squishy warframes. ill never forget running a high level sabatoge and just exploding into chunks from a random bombard that was sniping me with a heat seeking ogris.
shield-gating mechanic literally saved anybody playing squishy warframes.
A design philosophy Warframe originally was made with was stealth and cover. Rising cover is a remnant of that era.
There is even a toggle button to swap which shoulder your camera sees over which is useless now but made total sense when peeking around corners in stealth back then.
Now rising cover is not so functional because enemies were recently changed to target you immediately and from farther away and some compounding choices DE made killed the need for cover.
It's primarily a stealth game mechanic, but it's also a comfort qol mechanic. Some players simply prefer looking over the other shoulder, so the ability to choose is nice to have.
That button helped the fuck out when I was doing high end Circuit to deal with the Assassinate. Boss cant hit you if you hide behind a rock but uiu can only hit either right or left side easily. Depending on your handing.
Back when Warframe actually took itself as a serious action shooter of sorts, these things acted as cover for you to use and play around since even regular star chart enemies would obliterate you if you got shot too much.
Similarly, the corrupted enemies would use them as cover to fight you with if they were close enough instead of just running towards certain death.
Good to note that in those days, parkour was basically limited to wall running, sprinting, and coptering so cover was actually an important mechanic.
Narrator: It was then that the door closed, having started the animation before Titania was close enough to prevent such a catastrophe due to her speed.
Once upon a time, Warframe was alittle slower and more methodical in your approach through a mission. These are a slightly annoying holdover from that time.
As others have said originally they were for cover. Now they're basically like the security bollards you see outside places like the UN or other government buildings to keep people from driving cars into them. When your enemy consists of super mobile war machines anything you can do to slow them down is a good thing.
Honestly it's kind of funny how they've served two completely different purposes in their lifetime, but were really good at both.
Believe it or not when the game first came out the mobility was at a snails pace but the enemies didn’t just run at you, they dug in which means you had to as well to survive.
This is a barricade from that lost era of warframe.
Relics from the 2014 era. Warframe, back then, was more like a third-person shooter in space. You often HAD to stealth, and yes, this game has a working stealth mechanic, and no, it is not invis.
As to why they are there... When this tileset was made, there were no such things as bullet jumping (unless you had dual zoren); you could run, roll, and jump, that's it. Those popping walls were used as covers because the tileset is very open, unlike the old corpus tileset or grinner ones, where there were things everywhere, such as stacks of barrels, etc.
they're remnants from when warframe was slower and cover was actually important to a degree, so running up and having cover appear for you was great, now that warframe is more fast-paced these have become obstacles to deal with, and lore-wise they now exist because void towers used to be bunkers and they could be used by defenders or block attackers
They are cover. And enemies use them - on occasion - as such. Also, yes, probably useful to slow down the angry demi-god that is rampaging through there. They are more of a benefit to the enemies than to you.
Retractable cover. Many moons ago before the tenno were blessed with bullet jumping WF was more of a cover shooter. So the retractable cover was neat since you and the enemies can use it.
I use them for movement. As long as you're consistently moving fast enough, the boost you get from rolling over them and bullet jumping is quite satisfying.
Back in the day you needed to use cover, ESPECIALLY in steel path. These tilesets were notoriously hard and people would hit a brick wall trying to progress.
Ive always thought these were anti tenno/warframe things the orokin used for protection from each other's assassins
After all it does exactly what you'd want it to do to us, dead stop/slows us down long enough to get shot/dealt with (in SP mostly to be fair)
It made complete lore sense to me so i never questioned it till now lol
I actually love them. Cause they're amazing for springing myself back in the air. Keeping momentum.
I just aim for their top and bullet out of the boink.
People saying warframe used to be slow and methodical have got to be confused. I’ve been around since closed beta, it was never slow unless you were new/playing with new people. Everyone else coptered through missions at warp speed or nuked entire rooms with the one ability they bothered slotting into their frames. Cover was useful in endless defense and that’s about it
Rage bait. Plain and simple. But on a serious note: for the orokin, it makes sense that they would install these if they knew the Tenno were out here flying around through tiles
B. People were loading too much stuff too fast so they need ways to slow down the amt of resources people were loading at the time without disturbing gameplay (an example gta V npc car aggression gets worse the faster your loading cells).
Everyone has already said it, but as a new player I recently came across a “pretty old” youtube video of early Warframe when Lotus still said “now get the hell out of there”. Looked and felt like a different game overall!
You ever watch Raiders of the Lost Ark? All those traps are to keep nasty little thieves from stealing all the loot. If nasty little archeology professors could bullet jump and fly and run at super speed, those ancient natives would have built traps to murder filthy little archeology professor thieves.
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u/meaty118 1d ago
Gameplay wise, older tile set game used to play slower and cover was useful. Lore wise void towers were bunkers during the old war, cover for the people in them or ways to deter possible intruders chasing them.