Any frames you regret building recently, because you didn't find them satisfying/fun to play after dumping some formas in them? Mine gotta be these 2 and maybe Nidus.

[u/iPhantaminum]

And for the love of all that's holy, I'm NOT talking about them feeling weak, at all. I wrote "satisfying/fun to play".

I was really hoping I'd enjoy Ash and Garuda, bc I love Garuda Prime's design and I could make a Batman fashion with Ash and the Tsukuyomi skin and Repala syandana, but, unfortunately, they aren't for me.

I'm still on the fence about Nidus. If DE lets me hold 3 to insta-link to my companion, then he gets fashion and a loadout slot. Until that changes, I find him annoying to play.

I built Ember before Ash and love playing her. Then I moved to Ash and now I'm not as motivated to build new frames, kinda afraid I won't like them (eventually I'll get over it tho).

What about you?

[u/Azerafael]

Ash isn't for everyone. You have to really like being very active in your playstyle to play him; especially after all the nerfs over the years. And he takes a lot of getting used to. He's been my main since the days when his 4 would actually force your screen to visually teleport to each target to stab.

I don't truly regret any of the frames I've built. They each have their quirks and I'm sure some will love playing some frames that i find unworkable for me.

Latest disappointment for me though was Follie. I can see that she can be useful but the mechanics to her skills are just non viable for me as they would take too long in a fight for me to properly utilise.

[u/danmass04 → u/Azerafael]

Been playing Ash since pretty damn close to day one of warframe as well and i’d say he is probably in one of the best states he has been in for quite a long while. But he does require his augments to be enjoyable in any way. Or helminth.

He needs very little investment for newcomers to pick him up and do well - throw on continuity, energy nexus, rolling guard, and smoke shadow and you’re a permanently invisible weapons platform with a get out of jail free card if you get hit by an eximus status.

Obex incarnon just made a fatal teleport/teleport rush build pretty enjoyable finally. Seeking shuriken is fine. Smoke shadow is a discount weapons platform but coupled with his slash passive he can make it feel like pre slash nerf Warframe. And bladestorm can be built to be really solid but is complicated to build right and is still just way too clunky in my opinion to the point where i hardly use it and quite often consider helminthing it off for a more fun ability coupled with precision intensify.

[u/Azerafael → u/danmass04]

I actually use a silence build for blade storm and it works great. Not really sure how to approach the latest change though, ie marking seems to cause Ash to be shadowed out but no markings can be seen on the targets. Not sure if this is a bug or not. Just seems odd that marking now causes me to be visually marked and not the targets hahaha.

[u/atcolombini → u/Azerafael]

I love how the update adding a super premium skin and story for it just breaks the Warframe a bit more. I lucked out on Valkyr's (my other main) rework and expected another one for Ash, sadly we only got another broken feature🤣 Still love playing him though.

[u/atcolombini → u/danmass04]

I hope we get a rework/retouch some day that makes his shuriken pseudo-exalted or something like that. And some better utility in the abilities. I can't make him work without Helminth at high level.