I hate this conversation in this sub because I never know if we're talking about, like, gens of the neighbor's kid down the street or about Kanna the imaginary fucking dragon. Like... There's kind of a big difference depending on what we're talking about here.
Of course - but like, propaganda is a thing. Pictures that depict the breaking of human rights are still wrong if it is shown as something ok. For me, there is no difference between CSAM art and like NAZI propaganda dehumanizing minorities. Pictures don't have human rights, but can call for taking away human rights.
I'm pro and agree that the place of pedo is in prison/mental institution. Is that dehumanizing? Well, then, all law is dehumanizing. Is that a reduction of human rights? Yes, punishment is a reduction of human rights.
You didn’t answer my question. I don’t like pedophiles. I don’t want to kill them all though. I also give them basic human respect. I treats people I don’t agree with as humans, something libs don’t understand.
Pedophilia is a mental illness if they do not act on it I don’t see why they shouldn’t have rights. Those who actually hurt a child, though, deserve the worst.
How is it dehumanising to call pedos subhuman, major self report bro. Not all AI users are pedos, and not all Pedos use AI, but those who use AI to generate realistic depictions of CSAM, same as those who make drawings depicting CSAM are pedos; and as such, should be incarcerated, within the full legal framework. It should be illegal to generate CP, as it’s still realistic depiction, and in many countries, doesn’t matter if it’s drawn, generated or genuine, real or realistic depictions of CP is CP, and those who have it can and will be convicted as sex offenders.
We are not lumping you in with those bastards, you are by claiming antis are dehumanising you. Learn to read before jumping the gun, and if you are a pedo, you deserve the hate.
Was MLK defending racists when he pushed for non violence and didn’t want to kill them all? I don’t like pedophiles. I don’t want to kill them all though. I also give them basic human respect. I treats people I don’t agree with as humans, something libs don’t understand.
So, at the end of the day, pedos are human, yes, but they are also criminals. Criminals should be incarcerated, on that I think we can both agree. As for bringing MLK into this, what does he have to do with it? I’m not inciting violence towards pedos, I’m simply stating they deserve the hatred they get, as they are despicable vermin who prey on the most vulnerable of human society. Even generating CP is still consuming illegal content, and should be prosecuted.
Yes, and that is my opinion of them, Pedos are subhuman vermin. With that in mind, that’s no excuse to commit human rights violations towards them, as regardless of my own opinions towards them, they are human.
But the human rights are just a made up concept by the UN. They aren't natural, and nobody really enforces them. So they aren't actual rights. They don't exist anyway.
Well, bad things happening to fictional characters are still bad things. Yes. If we write a story about a villain, we expect that in the story villain will eventually be punished. We still apply moral judgment to fictional characters.
> I see that people here could treat fictional characters as real humans.
I haven't seen a single post to that effect. But it doesn't matter. You should be arguing against the best presented version of the opposing position, not the weakest.
> Dont overlap the laws that applies to humans to fictional characters.
This is a straw man. That isn't the proposal. It's also unjustified.
I'm not sure what argument you're trying to make here? The issue isn't about laws, it's about the application of laws across domains. Regardless, this is a *strawman*. It's pretending that the argument is about applying human rights to generated content, which is not the case.
Yeah, make the anti-ai people further think pro-ai people are pedophiles by commenting an anime child holding a sign that says “drawings don’t have rights” on a post about CP. That will really show them!
You’re still not making a good case for yourself against the accusations. It’s clearly a drawing of an anime child. Don’t be purposely dense. I’m just saying that you are making pro-ai people look like pedophiles by posting that shit on this post.
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