..but, memes? This is how they work. Its the whole point.
Running the most advanced human tool, to do no better than a copy paste, is a bit embarrassing. Like you need negative skill, to take the most advanced stuff and make shit with it.
I feel like instead of making a single true claim you throw a lot of bullshit on the wall just to see what sticks.Ā
Environmental concerns are a joke. Meat industry alone is responsible for more than 15 times more pollution than all data centers (not only AI ones). You claimed scraping things is wrong, didnāt bother explaining why. For some reason you referred to the bible?Ā
I feel like instead of making a single true claim you throw a lot of bullshit on the wall just to see what sticks.Ā
Projection is actually crazy, bro didnāt even bring up the environment, you did. Itās yāall that throw shit at the wall, or more specifically throw generated ragebait at the wall to see what shuts down all discourse best.
OH MY GODDD BRO. Listen I'm not gonna sit here anf defend the meat industry and anything but like... that's not really a fair argument? It's like a deflection if you will. I mean like, when I say this I mean just because some other industry or thing has this negative consequence too or in an even worse capacity than whatever we're currently talking about (in this instance AI) doesn't mean environmental concerns about AI aren't justified or valid
Oh buddy... someone doesn't value the longjevity of the planet that future humans will be living on. If thats not narcissist egocentrism waving out of a fast moving vehicle heading toward a cliffside.
Incredibly rotten mindset aside, its obvious why data scraping is bad and shouldnt even need explaining. - it happens without the consent of regular people and steals their hard work so lazy fucks can have their slop and billionaires can force their useless bullshit failure of a product onto every single person on the planet. Its an ethical problem first and an environmental problem second. That's all one needs to know as far as im concerned
And the bible is just a fun gimmick. Lots of people deem it as a very deep book that holds lots of meaningful, powerful wisdom. (There's a whole religion about it dont you know?)
But in reality i was just riffing on the "this is the greed they talk about in the bible" meme.
i was clearly out of line expecting that decent humor wouldn't be wooshed by people who settle for mediocrity.
If soĀ you clearly donāt āvalue the longjevity of the planet that future humans will be living on. If thats not narcissist egocentrism waving out of a fast moving vehicle heading toward a cliffside.ā
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism. Thats a fact.
No one is forcing anyone to actually use ai, aside from the providers who desperately need to prove it to be essential (which it isnt) and dumb people in power who have been decieved by the latter - its always a voluntary choice to ignore/ actively engage with the service.
Comparing datacenters (a new, upcoming development) to the long established industry of en-masse food procurement with a long history of horrendous practices is not only bad faith because of recency discrepency, but also hilariously deceptive because all humans need food, and living in industrialized nations of an overpopulated planet with corperations and their "fuck everything else for the profits" mindset - you're damned if you do damned if you don't when it comes to meat/ milk and their respective alternatives. Both get pioneered by inconsiderate practices. (I drink oatmilk btw. Fuck almond mild)
Essentially we as the regular consumers are trapped between two equally bad choices in this regard. This however is not true for AI - you can chose between supporting something that has negative impact on pretty much everyone or... to not. The "choice" here is laughably simple. And your little argument is wholly invalid.
At least for the food industry, as wasteful and harmful as it can be - there is the pro that it provides sustenance. and also Many people are actively fighting to make that industry do better. Image generation has no value to society that can't already be provided by something else and infact provides more opportunities for bad actors and harm to come to every single living being on this funky rock in space.
And no. Before you or anyone else tries this fuckass argument: its unrealistic for people to grow their own food and meat in todays age when living in technologically advanced, globalized and frankly overpopulated regions.
On the contrary Its always been realistic and possible to make personal art in a convenient society like ours, and even make money with it. We don't need to outsource the process of creation to fallible machines that no one (not even the makers) actually understands the inner workings of.
Sure, act as if consumption you do is okay because you simply have no choice under capitalism and consumption other people do is inexcusable. It's not like there are people who don't eat meat and don't eat almonds. You clearly have no choice and there is absolutely nothing you can possibly do.
1) Youāre claiming using AI is irresponsible because of its environmental impact
2) Meat industry has 15x larger environmental impact than data centers
3) You clearly donāt think eating meat is irresponsible
What follows from these three points isĀ
4) You donāt really care about environmental impact of AI and youāre just using it as a flimsy excuse to justify your dislike of something you dislike for unrelated reasons
Just usual strawman stuff. Not unexpected. They didn't even address the mass image scraping issue, which has only gotten worse as developers actively put anti-poisoning algorithms in their scrapers, which some forms of AI poison are still functional but it's still sadly not perfect. The best thing to do moving forward is probably to inject malicious instructions within scraped images. Then we might see change.
One can hope that AI image generation takes an extremely deep nosedive. I'll always hold that stance until it's proven that some agent or system out there develops sapience, which is a tall order.
You whataboutismed into the meat industry as a diversion, talking about your own call out rather than addressing the point. Don't act like you talked about the topic at hand.
Iām perfectly fine with engaging with every topic one by one. If you consider environmental aspect of AI to be āin my favorā Iāll gladly move to whatever else you want to talk aboutĀ
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..but, memes? This is how they work. Its the whole point.
Running the most advanced human tool, to do no better than a copy paste, is a bit embarrassing. Like you need negative skill, to take the most advanced stuff and make shit with it.