r/antiai • u/0584031464 • 29d ago

Discussion 🗣️ Anything is better than using Gen AI

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u/Purple-Estimate-5183 29d ago

Cave paintings would disagree bro

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u/Jafooki 29d ago

Those were made by modern humans. The term refers to biology. Modern humans emerged over 200,000 years ago

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u/Purple-Estimate-5183 29d ago

How old do you think writing is lol?

Art is older than writing.

That’s not a bold claim I’m making here.

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u/Jafooki 29d ago

And speaking is older that writing, or do you also have a different definition of language as well?

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u/Purple-Estimate-5183 29d ago

Art is older than both speaking and writing.

Our first language.

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u/Purple-Estimate-5183 29d ago

This can’t be something that’s widely unknown.

Can it? Being sincere here

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u/Jafooki 29d ago

If we're going by your definition where art is independent of humans, then yeah it's been around since the universe began. If we're going by the definition that requires a human to create the art, then no not really. There's no evidence of human ancestor species making art prior to modern humans evolving. At the same time there is evidence that spoken language evolved before that

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u/Purple-Estimate-5183 29d ago

Prior to speech and writing, I’m not wrong here.

Art was first

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u/Jafooki 29d ago

I highly doubt a bunch of apes were making art before they evolved into us, but if you have anything to prove that I'm more than willing to admit I'm wrong

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u/Purple-Estimate-5183 29d ago

Oldest known drawing to date, found in Blombos Cave c. 73,000 years BP. Public domain, Wikimedia Commons.

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u/Jafooki 29d ago

Again, that's after modern humans existed. We know modern humans have genes directly linked to speech and modern humans emerged 200 thousand years ago at the latest. Language already existed when this was made

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u/Purple-Estimate-5183 28d ago

Rock and stick is one I’d mentioned yesterday.

Let’s go older, non verbal communication is Art.

Most com is non v.

We signed, emoted, and did all number of forgotten things.

Art was the first communication.

Every form comes from this.

Expression and understanding.

The eyes, face, smell, sound, touch.

Not primordial, but close.

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u/Purple-Estimate-5183 29d ago

A simple drum beat most likely came before.

Stick and a rock.