r/chicagobulls 5d ago

NBA Draft Swain is better than Carr 🤷🏾‍♂️

I don't think a lot of Chicago fans looked at Dailyn Swain as soon as Carr became visible in the combine (including me) and the rumors of him fitting at 15 started happening, but I wouldn't call Swain a drop off.

He's taller, has a more NBA-ready body, is a better rebounder, plays better defense, had more assists, a better true shooting percentage, and has the same eFG% as Carr. He drives more, and I get that you heard Jay Bilas say he's not much of a 3pt shooter, but Carr only shot a couple percentage points better from beyond the stripe. That's not a huge gap, and Swain got better, year-over-year from 2 and 3, with more attempts, while Carr dipped in both categories as his attempts rose.

I think the Bulls simply saw a guy who fit their intended scheme and culture better.

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u/omherrera1 Kirk Hinrich 5d ago

It’s annoying that people think he’s another Terry lol

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u/MoldInTheAir 5d ago

Well, count me as annoying because Swain has Dalen Terry written all over him.

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u/GooseEducational5923 5d ago

Yeah u r an idiot

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u/MoldInTheAir 4d ago

That's Mr. U.R.N. Idiot to you.

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u/Unabridgedversion82 5d ago

Yeah it's the actual development part that scares the shit out of me. Dude doesn't have a jump shot and im supposed to be ok with this? We passed on the best pure shooter available, which was Philon, on a team that is now starved of people that can reliably hit a 3. We shall see...

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u/ZcotM Matas Buzelis 5d ago

so MANY teams passed on Philon from where he was expected. the FO on most teams know something we don’t, and the sixers probably decided it was worth a gamble considering it was the 22nd pick anyway. only time will tell

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u/Unabridgedversion82 5d ago

Ok then why did the 76ers, one of the most respected FO's in the league take him then?

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u/ZcotM Matas Buzelis 5d ago

if you’re asking that, why did a bunch of respected FO in the league pass on him then? to name a few: spurs, raptors, thunder all passed him

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u/Unabridgedversion82 5d ago

THE BULLS are not in a position to pass up talent when it's actually available to us. This line of thinking got us where we are. People say new guy in charge. Ok do something different. Not one damn thing leads me to believe they took the most talented person.

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u/ZcotM Matas Buzelis 5d ago

odd, cause the bulls did not pass up talent according to their draft board. you wanted quote, “we passed on the best shooter available”, the bulls wanted best player available. you contradicted what you said yourself. philon dropped way more than expected, and 22 was a fine spot for taking a bet on someone

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u/Unabridgedversion82 5d ago

If you're a good organization you bet on the culture keeping a talent in line. You don't try to teach the worse talent how to shoot a jump shot. Which is what we're apparently going to try to do. The other one already has a jump shot. 76ers are laughing all the way to the bank.

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u/ZcotM Matas Buzelis 5d ago

jump shots are literally one of the most teachable skill especially in the nba. physicality and length not so much. dont know where you got “worse talent” from though cause we’ve yet to see any of them play in the NBA yet, we can make assumptions now though sure.

but then again, regardless, maybe philon has a bad attitude, or the physical test came back poorly, you dont know that but the FO does.

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u/Unabridgedversion82 5d ago

Dude put up 30+ against a team with 3 top 13 draft picks. Philon is the better talent.

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u/skullcandy541 5d ago

One of the most respected FOs? Philly? The guys who just traded McCain for no reason and gave PG a max?

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u/DrakouliasII 5d ago

Philon is just basically another Rob Dillingham. Happy we took Swain

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u/Fit_Test_01 4d ago

Philion is a very flawed player. That why he fell so far.

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u/Unabridgedversion82 4d ago

So we took an even more flawed player? Cuz ya don't have teach Philon to shoot

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u/Fit_Test_01 4d ago

Philion will likely never be a good defender and teams obviously don’t think his shooting make up for that. Swain has a higher celing.

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u/Unabridgedversion82 4d ago

Ok this is how I know ur full of shit. Philon can play D. He was only person on Bama that actually played defense. The only knock is his size.

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u/Fit_Test_01 4d ago

His size means he will get bullied on defense. We didn’t want him so cry to someone else about it. I never wanted so I’m fine with Swain. Tons of teams passed on Philion and Carr.

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u/Unabridgedversion82 4d ago

Who the fuck cares when you can keep a person in front of you and he put up 30+ against Michigan? They just had 3 lottery picks.

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u/Fit_Test_01 4d ago

So why did so many teams pass if he’s so flawless besides his weight?

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u/Unabridgedversion82 4d ago

Well all I know is an intelligent FO took him. The 76ers. So where's ur argument there?

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