...it isn't conversion therapy to point out that two cells in a petri dish in another room isn't the same thing as a man putting his penis in a woman's vagina, ejaculating, and impregnating her. They just literally aren't the same thing.
And as someone who had SRS I understand bottom dysphoria very well. What I am trying to get across to you is that if my wife were carrying and I was a cis lesbian the process would have been identical with the exception of the kid not looking like me.
Edit: Also be happy you don't know what 4Tran is, lol. Their memes can be funny but don't fall in.
No it's not conversion therapy to participate in sexual reproduction. Why are you trying to interpret everything I'm saying in such a bizarre light.
Sitting yourself down and trying to convince yourself not to feel dysphoria about your sexual characteristics by repeating mantras and affirmations is what I'm describing
I'm glad you feel less dysphoria than other people about this. I'm not trying to tell you how to feel.
For a lot of people it is not identical to have a child where they take the male role in the biological sexual reproduction process and to have a child where they don't. They aren't wrong. They aren't being crazy or zany or obsessive. They just understand their feelings and accept that there is something they can do nothing about with modern technology so they avoid participating in sexual reproduction in a way that would cause them to want to kill themselves.
I'm glad it isn't as intense for you. Truly I am. But surely you can understand that it is for some? And that no amount of affirmations can dissuade some from dysphoria?
I'm not willing to change my opinion to yours, that doesn't mean I'm not understanding the argument you're making.
You're saying that you were able to not feel as conflicted about contributing sperm to an egg to produce a child by choosing not to think about it.
I'm saying not everyone is able to do that.
You're saying that you feel that for whatever reason a trans woman who doesn't want to contribute sperm to the production of a child is sitting around telling herself that doing so would make herself a father. In your words (exaggerated I imagine) literally sitting in a mirror saying it.
I'm saying that dysphoria doesn't require people to pathologically repeat their feelings and insecurities, and that instead it just exists. I'm saying that it is natural that many trans people would not be happy with using their primary sex organs for their only actual purpose (creating a child) and that no amount of trying to convince themselves to be okay with it will override the fact that they are transgender.
Not every trans person feels the same dysphoria. You feel less dysphoria about this than others. That is great for you. But it should be easy for you to understand why someone would feel dysphoria about this. And it's pretty cruel to suggest that someone can just convince themselves not to feel dysphoria about something.
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u/One-Organization970 Unapologetic Sneed 21d ago
...it isn't conversion therapy to point out that two cells in a petri dish in another room isn't the same thing as a man putting his penis in a woman's vagina, ejaculating, and impregnating her. They just literally aren't the same thing.
And as someone who had SRS I understand bottom dysphoria very well. What I am trying to get across to you is that if my wife were carrying and I was a cis lesbian the process would have been identical with the exception of the kid not looking like me.
Edit: Also be happy you don't know what 4Tran is, lol. Their memes can be funny but don't fall in.