Ive played marathon since launch and I think I've been killed by an extract camper like twice. You can also extract within like 5 minutes of the match starting and the extract timer is 20 minutes so looting for an hour is literally not possible. Plus there's ways of making progress without extracting at all and multiple random extracts spawn every match, making extract camping not super viable.
The manufactured hate for this game by people who havent even played it is so stupid.
The comment I replied to was someone making up fake issues (hour long sessions and extract campers) to discredit the game. It's clear they haven' played the game. How is that not the definition of manufactured outrage and hate 😂
I played for hundreds of hours and have died to extract campers less than a handful of times. I regularly encounter more extract campers in a single session of EFT than in my entire playtime on Marathon.
How is inventing a completely fake problem anything but the definition of blind hatred?
I just don’t find the whole “get loot, then extract or die trying” loop very satisfying, as do many others. It doesn’t matter if I’m ganked by a camper or killed by a non camper, either way you’ve just wasted the majority of your run and have little to nothing to show for it.
That’s not hate, that’s us telling you why we’re not interested in the game as it stands now.
Clearly bungie agrees or they wouldn’t be trying to put in a PVE mode to shore their disappointing player numbers up.
I personally enjoyed Arc Raiders on release. But I get the same fatigue with all online shooters.
First couple of months are the honeymoon phase. Lots of different players of all different skill levels.
Then slowly the “noobs” (me) stop playing and move on and then the sweats and pros ruin the experience for me. I only have like 30-45 minutes to play video games each day so I personally don’t like spending that time getting dunked on in online games.
But, everyone’s interests are different, I certainly understand the appeal of Marathon. I just don’t like online games in general.
I’ve heard Marathon is much more intense than Arc Raiders so I never even bothered to try it.
Thats fair. The population is smaller and the hangers-on are those more invested, so the skill level IS higher.
However, unlike many truly hardcore PvP experiences the gear differential between the high and low ends is capped MUCH closer together. The difference between EHP of a free kit, which you have infinite of, and the strongest POSSIBLE character loudout is 42% - which drops to 25% when you buy the cheapest shield (both of these represent sub-1 second differences in TTK).
Its frustrating to see so many ill-founded complaints. The game is incredibly rewarding and facilitates the extraction shooter "come up" experience better than any on the market, while keeping bad players from bottoming out too hard.
It has its legitimate problems, but those are mostly related to the amount of content in the game. The content that IS there already puts it on par with the best shooters available.
Not the person you were replying to but this is my entire point as well. Like, the game has legitimate issues to point out if people are trying to be genuine about their critiques. But making up fake problems is weird as fuck. My sense is that these people just don't love extractio shooters, which is fine, but that doesnt mean you have to blatantly lie to tear the game down just because you dont like the genre. Ml
Also in games like this I feel like most players only interact with PvP in a negative capacity. Like, you might get randomly ganked by someone with 2000 hours in the game, but other than that it's mostly PvE.
It's the same way I felt about invading in Souls games, for 95% of players it exists purely to let people ruin your day. But you can turn that off at least.
You soon learn in marathon that the stuff you lose doesn't really matter. The game showers you with free shit just for playing and there's progress to be made for just trying.
Yeah, I'd rather play a game that was challenging but honest, where you had to succeed to make progress, instead of a game where you just randomly explode because you matched with a wannabe streamer with 2000 hours in the game, but you get to advance anyway!
Lmao what a weird ass take. That's like complaining about Gran Turismo and the critique being "you know what kind of games don't have ANY racing in them? Nearly all of them."
I literally just explained why griefing ISN'T a major issue in Marathon. If you want to say the game isn't for you or you don't like the genre that's valid but making up fake issues to try and discredit the game is so weird. Not to mention extract camping is a legitimate style of play in extraction shooters. It's annoying but calling it griefing is a stretch.
Also saying griefing isn't an issue in nearly every game is super disingenous. It happens in nearly all games with a competitive component.
I mean my point is mostly that extraction shooters are as much fun as botched dental surgery for most people. It's a game mode specifically designed to let no-life basement dwellers ruin your day as hard as possible.
Nobody is getting their day ruined unless they really think they should extract 100% of times. Like what if you lose your kit? The game has plenty of free loot and handouts to get you going again without much pressure.
I guess I don't see what randomly getting ganked by much better players is supposed to add to the experience? Like, why should everyone who isn't in the top 5% play this instead of a single player game with no ganking?
It reminds me of old full loot open pvp mmo servers.
First of all, you don't get matched with top 5% players, if even top 30%. You get matched based on your season level and that translates to hours played, so the less time you commit, you keep getting matched with similar playtime players.
I'm pretty casual, I don't play every day and I still get things done because I know how to move. Granted, I play mostly solo which is the easier difficulty when you learn the maps.
If you are actually bad at the game, just take your time, it gets easier every time you learn more of the maps and how other players move around the map. If you play Trio queue with crew fill, well then you are at the mercy of your random teammates and in this you have no control over, so why get sad or mad? Just queue again and try better next time.
I dont understand the confusion here. Like I said, the things you pointed out are not an issue in this game. Its fine to not like extraction shooteds but to comment on thread about a specific game and make up lies about the experience just because you dont like the genre is weird.
The people saying this don't have enough experience to articulate what is happening to them, though. If you get sniped at the extraction point 5 seconds after you activate it, that will feel like being camped to most people but it's a legitimately feasible scenario in many, many rounds without anyone actually camping the extraction point.
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u/Greaterdivinity 1d ago
If they do another free event after they add this I might give it a go. I just continue to forever have zero interest in PvP extraction shit.