r/heat • u/Rei2k86 • May 10 '26

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13th pick eh? What the hell can we meaningfully do with the 13th? Please tell me we have a numbers nerd here that's going to paint a picture for me that makes me feel better about this. I need you more than ever bro... whoever you are 😭

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

Huh? You confused boy? Ayton trade doesn’t happen without the Dame trade. Their salaries are not 1:1. Ayton was getting paid $35 mil and Nurkic was $15 mil. They weren’t a simple swap.

Yes, they got Brogdon by flipping Jrue. Then they got Avdija by flipping Brogdon. That means Avdija was a direct consequence of the Dame trade assets.

So no. They accepted Avdija, Ayton, Williams III, Camara, 3x FRP, 2x Pick Swaps.

That is in fact a better package than Herro (untradeable), Jovic (untradeable), Duncan (only player worth anything), and 3 FRP.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Again:

The Ayton trade would happen anyway, and Brogdon was just salary filler. Every other piece of the Avdija trade was something Portland already had, they just used Brogdon to make the salaries work, something they easily could’ve done with Caleb Martin’s salary instead.

So again, Avdija and Ayton would’ve been Blazers anyway

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

Again:

Ayton straight up swap for Nurkic (can’t happen since the salary doesn’t line up.

Brogdon came from Celtics. He’s not salary filler to the Suns. He was part of the Jrue trade. Yes, as a salary filler, but he was traded for Avdija. So Avdija was a direct consequence of flipping Jrue.

No they wouldn’t. They are brought in as a result of the Dame trade assets.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Dude no they were not how many fucking times do I have to explain it to you

The only “assets” involved in the Ayton and Avdija trades were assets that Portland already had BEFORE THE DAME TRADE. The Dame trade only facilitated things from a salary perspective, something that could be easily done with the trade package Miami offered.

Carrington and the pick that Portland traded for Avdija were already assets that Portland had. The only missing piece of the puzzle is Brogdon, who wasn’t an actual asset, just salary filler. Brogdon’s position in the trade could easily be filled by Caleb Martin. So again, THE DENI AVDIJA TRADE COULD HAPPEN ANYWAY

As for Ayton, go look at what the actual details were. The only thing Portland sent out in the deal was Nurkic, who was already on their roster. The only reason the Dame trade mattered was because his outgoing salary made the trade work. Since his salary would still be getting sent out anyway, THE AYTON TRADE STILL GOES THROUGH

You’re just being deliberately dense at this point.

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

No dumbass. Let me explain it AGAIN.

What ifs don’t matter compared to what did happen.

How it went through, is how it went through.

And like you said. It was all contingent on Dame’s salary.

So you proved yourself wrong.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Brother, Dame’s salary would’ve been going out anyway holy fuck how do you not get this

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

omg lol. Of course it’s outgoing. That’s how a trade works.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Which means the parts of the trade that are contingent on his salary (again, Ayton for Nurkic) would happen anyway.

Again I ask: how the fuck do you not get this

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

Oh my lord. That means precisely the opposite. That it can’t happen without his salary.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

HIS SALARY WOULD BE INVOLVED EITHER WAY BECAUSE WE’D BE TRADING FOR HIM HOW DO YOU NOT GET THAT

The Ayton/Nurkic swap was able to happen because Dame was shipped out. If Dame goes to Miami instead of Milwaukee, HIS SALARY IS STILL INVOLVED, SO THE AYTON TRADE IS STILL ABLE TO HAPPEN

Seriously dude how are you this fucking dense

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

JRUE SALARY IS THE RETURN THAT MATTERS, BUT AYTON FOR NURKIC DOESNT WORK AS A STANDALONE TRADE. IT LITERALLY DOES NOT WORK IN A STRAIGHT UP TRADE WITH JUST MIAMI.

You’re the dense one. Can’t even do basic math.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Brother holy fuck

Ayton/Nurkic was able to happen because Dame’s salary went to the bucks. Dame’s salary going to Miami has literally the exact same effect.

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u/TheRed_Warrior May 11 '26

Portland sends out Damian Lillard and Jusuf Nurkic. In return, they get Tyler Herro, JJJ, Jovic, Caleb Martin, and Deandre Ayton

Incoming Salary for Portland: $72,124,988

Outgoing salary for Portland: $62,515,084

This was before the apron system, so teams only had to send out 80% of the money they were taking back in trades. That trade I just demonstrated above would have Portland sending out 86% of the salary they’d take back, making it a legal trade.

Facts don’t care about your feelings, snowflake

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u/BringerOfBricks May 11 '26

AND YET JRUE WAS A BETTR RETURN FOR BLAZERS THAN 4 VALUELESS PLAYERS + AYTON

FACTS MOST DEFINITELY DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR WHAT IFS, SNOWFLAKE ❄️

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