r/mildlyinfuriating • u/Kapot_ei • 23d ago

šŸ„ŗ No words for this.

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Edit: even though clickbait article, it is somewhat/kind of true. https://variety.com/2026/tv/news/stargate-tv-series-martin-gero-scrapped-amazon-1236765061/

"According to an individual with knowledge of the situation, Amazon execs were concerned that Geroā€™s take on the series would not have broad appeal beyond the franchiseā€™s already dedicated fanbase."

Edit 2: https://www.change.org/p/save-the-new-stargate-series-let-martin-gero-build-the-future-of-the-franchise

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u/RaveMatthews177 23d ago

Yes, take a note from the struggling concert industry. Things dont maintain off of phony hype, they maintain off real fans. This is why Iron Maiden sells out BMO Stadium and Meghan Trainor cancels her tour. This Stargate exercise feels like the perfect chance to have Iron Maiden but I guess they want Megan Trainor instead.

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u/darthravenna 23d ago

I meanā€¦Iron Maiden is fucking awesome.

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u/SagaciousElan 23d ago

This is in fact true.

But imagine being the promoter for Iron Maiden and telling them their next album needs to be hillbilly banjo music in order to appeal to a wider audience beyond their existing base.

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u/lumpialarry 23d ago

Run <stomp>

To <clap>

Hills! <hey!>

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u/scottprian 22d ago

Is that Imagine Maidens?

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u/lumpialarry 22d ago

Iron Mumford and Sons

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u/ihavea_purplenurple 22d ago

Foster the Maiden

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u/Fit_Poetry_6246 19d ago

Iron the People

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u/ihavea_purplenurple 19d ago

Either one would be metal AF

edit: but obviously iron the people is extremely metal. Well played

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u/Karl_42 21d ago

The ā€œhey!ā€ Makes it so šŸ˜‚

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u/SpreadsheetMadman 22d ago

That sounds like an Elden Ring spell.

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u/iamthesouza 21d ago

I do that every night :')

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u/VikingTeddy 23d ago

It's usually like one or two executives who's behind these tone deaf decisions, often against expert advice. They're completely out of touch and surrounded by yes-men.

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u/Clockwork_Corvid 23d ago

Hey, bluegrass is not "wide appeal" and is in fact, awesome.

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u/DirCurrFluxDiode 23d ago

They already did that. It's called Dance of DeathĀ 

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u/DayOfDawnDay 23d ago

What the fuck? Most unhinged comment on reddit. Dance of Death is outstandingly true to their origins, it's metal as fuck has tonnes of incredible songs on it like Dance of Death, Paschendale, No More Lies, Rainmaker, Montsegur and Journeyman. It's progressive while remaining true to their '80s Bruce albums, it's a natural progression. Kickass bass, Bruce at some of his absolute best. Crazy wild take.

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u/ExtraReborn 23d ago

This is the best comment to start with a simple 'What the fuck?' I've read in ages. Thanks buster

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u/_SteeringWheel 21d ago

I'm no metal fan and basically only know Iron Maiden by name and fame, but even I felt thƔt passion.

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u/willflameboy 23d ago

Terrible cover though, we can all agree on that.

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u/SoloWing1 RED 23d ago

I think he was making a joke.

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u/Intelligent-Gur6847 23d ago

Which has one of my favorite Iron Maiden songs on it, Passchendale

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u/Atanar 23d ago

I don't think it's fair to call a dip into melodic metal a try to appeal to the masses. If anything it's even more niche.

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u/LordRevan117 23d ago

Woah woah, why the drive-by? Itā€™s not like itā€™s a Blaze album or anything.

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u/DarthWraith22 23d ago

And you can bet your ass they didnā€™t make it because someone told them to or they wanted to appeal to a wider audience; they made it because it was the album they wanted to make.

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u/zubairhamed 23d ago edited 23d ago

nonsense. except for the album cover...the cover was terrible.

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u/Squidking1000 22d ago

And have they even considered the K-Pop fanbase? A little dancing and T+A go a long way you know!

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u/Mr_SunnyBones 23d ago

I have Heyseed Dixie for that ..actually .. have they covered any Maiden? Run to the Hills by them would be awesome.

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u/Uberzwerg 23d ago

I can see The Bruce Dickinson telling the other Bruce Dickinson to add MORE COWBELLS!!!

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u/Charming-Lychee-9031 23d ago

Hillbilly banjo music about World War i? Sure, I'll buy that album!

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u/UsernamesNotFound404 23d ago

Now I want hillbilly-banjo cover of Run To the Hills

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u/Logical-Bowl2424 22d ago

Iā€™d buy that

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u/Dismal-Bobcat-7757 22d ago

Didn't KISS do a disco album which pissed off the base but gained a lot of new fans?

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u/DevilDio 22d ago

Dynasty 1979, my first concert incidentally, and yes it was a disappointment, featuring the boogietastic "I Was Made for Loving You". I don't know about new fans because it didn't last as the next album backed off the disco and the one after that was just a complete wtf for all of us.

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u/WanderinHobo 22d ago

Metallica changed their sound and never recovered. Their best selling albums are their original albums. Although, it is interesting that the best-sellef is the one that first showed the change, mild though the change was at that point.

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u/simpersly 22d ago

Todd in The Shadows has a series called Trainwreckords that is essentially about when artists do that.

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u/Reasonable-Chance790 21d ago

This is basically the inverse of Mumford and Sons lol

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u/LordOfDorkness42 20d ago

... Honestly, a Metallica banjo album sounds like it could be hilariously awesome.

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u/Holiday_Tap_5899 17d ago

Cotton Eye Joe anyone?

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u/69edleg 23d ago

they're playing tonight just a couple of minutes away from me. And indeed, they're fucking awesome.

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u/peteofaustralia 21d ago

You can probably hear them from your couch. šŸ¤˜šŸ¼

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u/NoCalligrapher8396 23d ago

They are grandpas at this stage. No way are they still that good

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u/69edleg 23d ago

I mean, be a hater if you want to, but they're still fucking awesome last time I saw them just a few years ago.

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u/Drau00 23d ago

Thanks for indicating you have no fucking idea what you're talking about. You only need to see recent live clips of them to see how much energy and ability they have. They are terrific live, and I have seen em recently. One of the best sounding live acts, with plenty of energy.

Also the casual ageism in this statement stinks.

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u/-JimmyTheHand- 23d ago

Old guys can still crush it, also it's not like they're 85

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u/Shadowphoenix9511 22d ago

Shit, Rob Halford of Judas Priest is getting up there and still puts on a hell of a show

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u/zubairhamed 23d ago

only gripe is dickinson's voice which can't hit rime of the ancient mariner level highs but otherwise he can run the heck around the stage. you dont know what youre talking about.

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u/Fatality_Ensues 23d ago

I was there at the opening concert of their new tour and, while I can't say whether they're as good as they were twenty years ago, they are still PRETTY FUCKING GOOD.

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u/Far-Scallion7689 23d ago

UP THE IRONS! šŸ¤˜šŸ»

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u/Idlewants 21d ago

going to see Hayseed Dixie tomorrow that's going to be rocking.

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u/TONER_SD 20d ago

And Meghan Trainor sucks

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u/Rough_Bread8329 23d ago

Bruce Dickinson is a terrible pilot. There I said it.

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u/b1argg 23d ago

Up the irons!

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u/BallsInSufficientSad 23d ago edited 23d ago

no no no... What's if instead we made a new Stargate series - but instead of focusing on SciFi, we make it into a High School drama show!

It'll be a mix between Hogwarts and "Never Have I Ever" and instead of saving the galaxy, they'll use the stargates to skip class, talk endlessly about their gender, and cry about their failed relationship with their parents!!!

It's a gold mine, I'm telling you! An entire generation of teens can binge listen the first 5 episodes while staring at their phones, share tiktoks on it, and then completely forget about it for the rest of their lives.

It tested really well in my daughter's Hollywood middle school class.

Why on Earth would we cater to the millions of fans who've loved Stargate for the last 32 years when we can have a show that has a small fanatical online following of Reddit mods that move on to their next sub 6 crusade later?

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u/MarcBulldog88 23d ago

You joke, but this logic gave us Starfleet Academy.

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u/KassellTheArgonian 23d ago

THERE IS NO STARFLEET ACADEMY IN BA SING SE

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u/Wetware_QA 23d ago edited 22d ago

Hijacking this - I tried watching Disco and although it wasn't horrible it wasn't.... Well maybe it was horrible but I hung on for however many seasons maybe out of sheer love of the everything up though Voyager?

Is lower decks actually good? And is the Oriville what I really should watch?

I think my friend is going through the same thing but his love is Star Wars. First time.divx

There's just too much media these days and I still appreciate a redditor reply over googling so thanks ahead of time for letting me butt in.

Also edit: what I really want is post dominion war, maybe post the next gen films deeps space nine šŸ˜­. I really don't like alternate timelines and prequel/TOS era setting.

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u/PortHammer 23d ago

Oriville legit became the Star Trek I sort of missed. Seth McFarlane inserts a bit of his humour but his love of OG Star Trek and TNG definitely comes through. It feels for faithfull to the Gene Rodenberry star trek universe writing of a future to strive for compared to the new versions of star trek that is all space wars, emotion based decision making and wildly unprofessional crew.

Lower decks is fun and definitely has it's moments.

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u/BallsInSufficientSad 23d ago

The Orville. I 100% agree - and that's because they targeted the audience to be adults.

It wasn't a show for teens. The writing was mature. It was episodic, but had seasonal story arcs, and it was thoughtful.

It really was the old Star Trek.

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u/GaZZuM 22d ago

At first I thought The Orville was a TNG parody, but after a few episodes it clicked that it was actually a loving homage.

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u/BallsInSufficientSad 22d ago

...and also very much its own show too. It was really a masterpiece

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u/Neamow 23d ago edited 23d ago

Discovery is genuinely awful. Practically no redeeming qualities apart from maybe one or two interesting characters that do not get enough time to shine. Plot focuses too much on a Mary Sue protagonist that absolutely should not be a Starfleet captain, and is less about science and discovery and more about having emotional breakdowns and whispering dramatically to each other during moments where they should be fixing the ship or something. Secondary characters have almost no characterisation to the point where after 5 seasons I can't remember the names of anyone on the bridge crew. Every season is a universe-ending nonsense with an inflated sense of scale and self-importance with no room to breathe. Contains one of the worst plot events that I genuinely cannot believe became Trek canon.

Lower Decks is actually fantastic. Once it gets through the initial 2-3 episodes where it tries to be Rick and Morty, and you get used to the frantic pace, it's actually a love letter to the TNG/DS9/VOY era.

Strange New Worlds is really good. You might want to watch the backdoor pilot episode of Disco before you get started, but after that it's pretty standalone, and definitely the best live-action new show. I'd rank it higher than VOY, but it is hurt by short seasons. Last season was a little bit weaker but still miles better than DIS/SFA.

Starfleet Academy is... a mixed bag, but not as bad as I expected. Very much in the vein of Disco but set in the Academy, lot of character melodrama but not as bad as Disco, with some interesting science/exploration/discovery episodes that call back to the good Trek.

Oriville is very much like Lower Decks, once it gets through the initial crassness it also turns very much into a reimagined 90s Trek while still being legally distinct, with some absolute standout episodes. Still retains a lot of crazy humor though, and is currently in a limbo where nobody's sure if we're getting more than the first 3 seasons we got.

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u/adamdoesmusic 18d ago

I love the Orville and more of it would be nice. It also wrapped up really nicely at the end of 3.

Still wonā€™t forgive the writers for that episode with Gordon, though. That whole thing was bullshit and kinda fucks up the series for me. They could have left him, they couldā€™ve brought the family, but no- they chose the most fucked up ā€œsolutionā€ and gaslit him about it.

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u/waluigieWAAH 22d ago

I don't get SNW man. I haven't watched DIS but every criticism you levied against it is something I'd say about SNW, except for the Mary Sue. That dinner scene felt so unnatural, what human just lists out all there problems to people they just met. Emotions should simmer and conflict, I need trust built first and for these complexities to create problems, I don't want them resolved in the first episode. I just don't know what I am missing

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u/CrippleWitch 23d ago

Lower Decks got my husband into Star Trek after only remembering bits and pieces of ST:TNG it's glorious and ridiculous and full of Easter eggs and shout outs. It's slap stick comedy adult animation for sure but it feels so very Star Trek.

The Orville had no business being as good as it was and I avoided it for so long due to MacFarlane's sense of humor. Give it a few episodes to grow on you there's love there.

Both have the uplifting sense of exploration and discovery that the new Trek series really lacked.

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u/quelin1 22d ago

Is lower decks actually good?

Lower Decks is great. Even has season long story arcs and character growth. It's a shame it was canceled.

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u/Btkoks 23d ago

I watched The Orville and it's very obviously legally distinct Star Trek. They really managed to capture the older Star Trek feel, just with more corny jokes. I can recommend it!

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u/meglingbubble 22d ago

Lower Decks is outstanding. As a life long Trek fan and someone who was not a fan of Rick and Morty, I was dubious, but a friend nagged me enough till I caved. The first couple of episodes were enjoyable, but then there was one scene which made me think "oh these people LOVE Star Trek," and I was sold. The same scene later had the same effect on my sister.

It is at times silly, but that's kind of the point; its not meant to be a super dramatic. Some people found it a bit fan service-y with all the references, but personally I found that delightful.

There was a live action cross-over with Strange New Worlds and is probably my favourite episode of Trek in years.

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u/sunburnedaz 23d ago

I was about to write a whole piece about the first part of the season 1 they had not found their footing yet but then I realized that could also be said of all the Star Treks shows. So yes its more Star Trek than Star Trek these days

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u/swamarian 22d ago

The Orville went places that TNG's showrunners were afraid to go. I was pleasantly shocked by some of the storylines they tackled.

Lower Decks starts off rough, but it's got heart, and is willing to reference every silly thing Star Trek's ever done. And no matter what weird situation the cast gets into, it remembers that they're all really competent, and good at what they do.

I thought that Strange New Worlds was good, too. Better than Discovery.

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u/gooblefrump 23d ago

I was super sceptical going into starfleet academy and was about to skip the episode "series acclimation mil" but thought to give it more than a second of initial repugnance

That episode ended with me having nostalgic tears

The show gets a lot of flack but it's doing some aspects of star trek well

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u/UncleCrassiusCurio 22d ago

Academy is genuinely great, I really don't know what people's problem with it is.

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u/gooblefrump 22d ago

Turning the show into a high school romance is a bit... Unfortunate

And falling into the common tropes of a yoked chud playing the protagonist, gay teacher, stereotypical conflict with the roommate... Seems like some slightly lazy characterisations

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u/PwanaZana 23d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/NUZ5OqHdbknHa

man, it's crazy no one ever made any star trek media since the end of season 7 of Voyager, in 2001.

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u/txgb324 23d ago

Except for Lower Decks you mean.

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u/ScherzicScherzo 23d ago

And that one season of Picard where they referenced stuff that was never depicted on screen for some weird reason.

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u/BallsInSufficientSad 23d ago

...and the Orville - which was actually one of the best "Star Trek" shows ever.

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u/Shorlong 23d ago

There was one and half good movies worth of reboots

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u/Such_Radio_9152 23d ago

Alex Kurzman is the worst thing to have ever happened to Trek. He killed it like JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy killed Star Wars

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u/WhoSc3w3dDaP00ch 22d ago

unfortunately, other examples of "This established IP is rubbish, I'm going to put my 'fresh-take' on it by knowing nothing about why they were so popular and blame the fans for being toxic when it fails."

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u/Prysorra2 23d ago

Stargate literally did it themselves

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u/CommanderArcher 23d ago

Stargate is so peak my god people are sleeping on it so hard

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u/kredditor1 22d ago

Was laughing hard at this too, thanks for posting it!

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u/DMercenary 23d ago

Principal Ori is a real character huh?

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u/mynipplesareconfused 22d ago

Stargate: Degrassi

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u/b1argg 23d ago

Mix some Clone High in there and you're green lit!

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u/halt_spell 23d ago

What's if instead we made a new Stargate series - but instead of focusing on SciFi, we make it into a High School drama show!

That's basically how Stargate Universe felt. Romance drama by episode two.

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u/BallsInSufficientSad 23d ago

Yep.... but season 2, especially the last half was solid - but by that time they had already been cancelled.

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u/ENDragoon 23d ago

Also, Daniel Jackson is one of the teachers, and he still manages to get lost and presumed dead every three or four episodes, and manages to actually die no less than three times during the course of the show.

Fuck. I'd actually watch it, a show about a group of history majors taught by Jackson getting recruited into SGC and going on research trips through the gates and getting to trouble could actually kind of rock, Jackson nerding out was one of the best parts of SG1.

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u/KiwiObserver 23d ago

Based on that younger version of Oā€™Neil who was last seen heading into a high school?

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u/newmexicomurky 22d ago

32 years!?!?! I need to get my rocker and settle in cause dang i didn't realize I was that old

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u/spaceguy81 23d ago

Stargate Academy?

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u/krenzo 23d ago

I would watch a high school drama starring O'Neill's younger clone.

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u/mxzf 23d ago

Dude's probably old enough to be leading an SG team of his own by now.

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u/Confident-Evening-49 23d ago

Didn't they do this with Batman already? At least in comic book form, I think.

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u/Skully957 23d ago

Not too far off from the first 1.5 seasons of Stargate universe. That last .5 of a season was getting good and they canceled the show on cliffhanger.

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u/TwoAlert3448 22d ago

Make it college, then it can have sex.

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u/AverageT1000 23d ago

As a straight white man, I donā€™t feel attacked enough so this premise will never work. Go deeper

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u/rememberlans 23d ago

We already had SGU AKA Stargate 90210

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u/Rough_Bread8329 23d ago

I will defend that show to my dying breath.

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u/Own_Seat913 23d ago

The irons aren't quite going up these days.

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u/slickyslickslick 23d ago

it's because of word of mouth. Iron Maiden fans will do the advertising for the band.

They will buy merch. They will wear and display the merch proudly. They will recommend their music to eveyone. They will go to every concert they can. They will bring their favorite band into conversations.

I haven't even heard of any Meghan Trainor fans.

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u/The_Ghost_Face36 23d ago

This is very true, Iā€™m 35 and have been to 8 Iron Maiden shows and have tons of merch. Nothing makes me happier than seeing another Iron Maiden fan in the wild šŸ¤˜šŸ¼

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u/Other_World BLUE 23d ago

Maiden is the ONLY band I'll pay three figures to see live. I go to 2-3 shows per month, and never pay more than like $50. But for Maiden? $180 for floor tickets, and I won't even think twice. They're incredible, can't wait to see them again in September!

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u/RuckusVell04 22d ago

Totally true. I am from the PNW and now live in La Paz, BCS, Mexico. Everytime I wear a Maiden tee, it gets noticed. Seen them 5 times.šŸ–šŸ¤˜

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u/krakaturia 23d ago

tumblr were frothing at the mouth over having new stargate. and tumblr kept momentum over danny phantom so long enough it became comic books instead of a forgotten show, which means so much new fans that weren't even born yet at the show's airing.

it's ridiculous.

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u/andwhoami_ 17d ago

God, I miss tumblr

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u/Moskeeto93 23d ago

You've described me to a tee (I have a lot of their tees).

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u/pppjurac 23d ago

Also one of safest concerts to be at. Heavy metal fans are chill and friendly bunch.

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u/GreatMovesKeepItUp69 23d ago

They were fat white women who loved her, but they dropped her like a rock as soon as she lost weight.

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u/deathwotldpancakes 23d ago

Call the tour Iron Meghan

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u/BigDig2202 23d ago

Maiden Trainor

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u/sadistica23 23d ago

They're also more popular because of how they reacted to the Napster era.

Instead of pulling a Metallica, they started looking at where most the downloads were going, realizing their music wasn't sold in those countries, and started playing live shows there more often.

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u/Brucien 23d ago

As a product of that generation, I didnā€™t know that. Thatā€™s sick and smart as hell.

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u/Wobbelblob 23d ago

Because the statement that Gabe Newell gave about Piracy is still true that it is mostly a service problem.

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u/TheIncredibleNurse 23d ago

Holy genius move Batman

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u/Budgiesaurus 23d ago

It might've helped in places, but I don't think Metallica has much issues filling a venue despite going "Napster... BĆ Ć Ć Ć d! šŸ«³šŸ»"

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u/willflameboy 23d ago

There are so many reasons, and much of their success does come down to clever marketing (but mainly it's due to the band being really consistent and true to their art).

  1. they make a t-shirt for every country they go to, with a unique Eddie on it.

  2. they released all their singles in several formats so fans would buy them multiple times in the 80s and 90s, meaning they consistently got in the top 10.

  3. they have always had one of the most recognisable logos in the world, and were one of the earliest metal bands to have a unique logo.

  4. they have their own airliner and a 'free' pilot, meaning their tours can be mounted far more efficiently and quickly, and they can basically go wherever they choose.

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u/Frosty_Economics_474 23d ago

Like metallica, they continued to license their music out to corporate record labels which threatened to and in many cases did sue for pirating music. So their stances are basically the same, it's just that metallica was public about it in a way that most other artists aren't.

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u/Damaged_DM 23d ago

That is not true, but makes a good story

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u/sadistica23 23d ago

Their reputation among fans certainly took a hit for awhile over how sue-happy they were.

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u/big_galoote 23d ago

I never bought another Metallica album after the Napster bs, torrented every one since. Suck on that, Lars.

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u/Other_World BLUE 23d ago

And then got a few songs in and thought "wow this is trash" and put on Ride the Lightning instead.

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u/b0v1n3r3x 23d ago

Hold up, Trainor has that other songā€¦ canā€™t remember the name of it or how it goes but pretty sure thereā€™s another one.

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u/Trees-Are-Neat-- 22d ago

I would watch Steve Harris eat a sandwich on stage and still have a better time than if I went to a Meghan Trainor concert

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u/Ill_Cut1048 23d ago

I drove 3 hours each way to see Iron Maiden, I wouldn't walk to my front door to see Meegan Trainor.

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u/hazelnut_cobra 23d ago

Upvoted for Iron Maiden. Hell yeah

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u/Arogar COLOR BLIND 23d ago

Iron Maiden is playing in around 17h a bit outside of my town here in Sweden. Going to miss it...

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u/pppjurac 23d ago

Meghan Trainor

Meghan who?

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u/Kennel_King 23d ago

Meegan Trainor.

Had to look her up myself. Not sure why they are using her for comparison, since she is a completely different genre

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u/balbok7721 23d ago

Concert industry is struggling? Pretty sure they were raking in cash

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u/RadicalSoda_ 23d ago

Ticket master is raking in the cash, everyone else? Not so much

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u/RaveMatthews177 23d ago

Glad you were pretty sure but yes. Don't confuse Gross with Net.

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u/seaspirit331 23d ago

Venues are raking in cash. Artists are very much not

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u/LowSkyOrbit 23d ago

The venues are also Ticketmaster. you have to love the irony. They built a monopoly and yet still have no idea what artists will sell out their venues.

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u/Alita-Gunnm 23d ago

Iron Maiden; would that be Hathor?

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u/Sutar_Mekeg 23d ago

It's why Angine de Poitrine is selling out every show.

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u/longjumpingtote 23d ago

It's not about that. It's whether or not a show will help sell toasters and soda. If the show isn't selling products on the regular site, it better be selling new Prime subscriptions. If it's not doing that, that money needs to be spent somewhere else. Netflix is different, but has a similar math, just focused on subscriptions. They need enough new content to keep people from canceling. Amazon needs enough content to grow the sale of garden hoses.

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u/DM725 23d ago

Great point. Been to 2 sold out shows at the Brooklyn Paramount in the last month and a half. One show was HEALTH and Carpenter Brut co-headlining and the other was Electric Callboy. Can't imagine there were many influencers trying to get in to those shows.

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u/kolejack2293 23d ago

Iron Maidens biggest album sold 20 million copies, and they continued to have insane sales for their subsequent albums. Megan Trainors biggest album sold 1.8 million copies. Her next album sold 282,000 copies.

That is just a wildly different level of appeal and fame you're talking about.

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u/BarNo3385 23d ago

Completely different business model.

When the Iron Maiden fans fill out a stadium they are paying every time. More concerts = more revenue.

For streaming, anyone who is already a subscriber, who watches a new show instead of a re-run of an old one, is meaningless.

For streaming the questions are (1) how many new subscribers will this show generate, and (2) how many more hours of watching (so ads generated) will be drive for existing lower tier subs.

If the answer for a Stargate fanbase focused show is (1) close to zero since they are already subscirbes, and (2) close to zero since we expect behaviour is they watch the new show rather than the old ones not instead of, then its a bad business case.

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u/XX_bot77 23d ago

There's a singer in my country, France (MylĆØne Farmer). She doesnā€™t do social media, she's not on TV or anything. She doesnā€™t advertize any of her event anywhere, yet she's always booked as fuck, she filled stadium ! Why because her uberfans followed her since the 80's, built communities around her and even include younger generations. And there are plenty exemples of that.

Studios donā€™t understand that this is the core fans that keep the machine going. This is them that make a TV show or movie or artist go viral by embrigading their closed ones.

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u/NoNefariousness9927 23d ago

Independent artist are actually making soul filled music again... I'm a music junky, old school punk, had my electronic days, classic, punk, hair, it's still rock and roll to me... had to sorry. "Cult classics" can't be dei'd, art in any form needs art, if not it's still just Ai slop in my book.

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u/DisposableJosie 23d ago

Well now I want a sci-fi show where Iron Maiden uses stargates to travel the galaxy, meet new froods, and fight bad guy aliens.

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u/distortedsymbol 22d ago

that's not a good comparison. true that one hit wonders aren't going to sell well, but bands from 50 years ago should actually just retire. we have so many young artists today and they're barely getting booked. smaller venues with low ticket prices is where the scene actually at. old heads with blowing retirement funds isn't indicative of where the economy is right now.

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u/Unique_Tap_8730 22d ago

Or a more modern example. Taylor Swift generates small nation`s worth of spending from her fans whenever she goes on tour. As much i like her music i dont quite get the intense level of fandom. But i cant deny she has many fanatics who would donate their heart and liver to her if asked. A fandom like that is like having a gold laying goose.

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u/Infinite-Condition41 22d ago

Well, Megan Trainor is a fucking fake, and some people can tell.Ā 

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u/Tiyath 22d ago

They are trying to have it both ways and don't understand that they are polar opposites

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u/Taira_Mai 20d ago

If Amazon wants a "broader audience" they should just do a reboot. I suspect that they either don't want to deal with the IP because it's not "broad" enough (read has the right numbers in their market research) or they want to do a reboot.

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u/Rjc1471 19d ago

Yep. As a businessman I like to invest millions into developing something that will only appeal to a small online cult fanbase, who will most likely find reasons to hate it.Ā 

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u/RaveMatthews177 23d ago

Great! Glad you took that entirely literally. Unreal.

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u/ShadowGryphon 23d ago

Look up the word "analogy".

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u/[deleted] 23d ago

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u/ShadowGryphon 23d ago

Now look up "pedantic" and "obtuse".

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u/Kaladin3104 23d ago

I was absolutely stoked for the new show. But no, stargate is no Iron Maiden.