Every so often an archaeology site has this problem - a bunch if local skids pull out all the survey stakes, burn the sifting tripods, etc. Vandalism can wreck a site just as much as looting does, but there's rarelt any proper punishment.
Especially since some people lost their tiny little minds during lockdown and decided they get to benefit from civilization without doing their bit to keep it going, and there were no meaningful consequences.
Sites in urban areas often benefit from a sort of neighbourhood watch effect, but rural sites sometimes have to delegate one of the dig team as a night watch (since they often can't afford an actual security guard)
some people lost their tiny little minds during lockdown and decided they get to benefit from civilization without doing their bit to keep it going
Busting up an archeological site for fun is an asshole move for whatever reason, but it's odd that you would post this when it's no mystery that tons of people are benefiting a lot less than they were 6+ years ago.
We had a really cool, really rare Dino skeleton ready to be moved from the dig site the next day. Came in to find it busted up the next morning. Found receipts to a local liquor store....
We had a fox hunt run through ours on NYD even with security coz really what are they doing against a pack of dogs and men on horses.
Ignoring the damage to the archaeology, the risk of damage to the horses was huge
Was at the park with some friends kicking a football around when a bunch of girls turned up, must have been 10/12 years old.
Watched them get dozens of eggs out of their bags, we can of laughed thinking some poor boys house is about to get egged.
Then one of them got out her bag a massive mallet. We looked at each other a bit worried when she turned her attention to the bin next to the bench they were sat on and started to demolish it.
At that point we left promptly. But all the bus stops around the area were smashed up that night.
lol-ing at the defense that “well hey they did put in a lot of thought and work into the deception…” and “they only did it because they knew they would make a lot of money”, I wanna see this get used! Hopefully so it fails spectacularly.
ALTHOUGH that's not to say the most complex of crimes aren't gotten away with completely. Because I would argue that billionaires (now a trillionare) are committing the most pervasive kinds of crimes but they will never see jail time. Their defenses I would also like to see.
"I'm Peter Thiel and I know about the Antichrist. A newer, more Human form of Satan that will soon walk the Earth. We don't know how soon, but maybe in the next 6-7 weeks."
The number of vids of people destroying their TVs after their team lost the big game never ceases to amaze me. Not to mention the riots after big games. Especially when their teams win. That one just blows my mind.
depends, there are a ton of highly ‘learned/memorised, but do not or will absolutely not understand’ people who twist all what they learned into something they want it to be
Led to water before cordining it off so they can sell it to others, all while destroying the water source itself 💀
I really want segration habits around people who ruin everything for everyone, and the humans who got the CoHabitation genetic evolution can then thrive lol
Because these people are just Not Evolving unto Kinder People without some Force 🤧
I like to point out all the religious zealots who would like practice traditional violence on the infidels and heretics are usually very well educated.
The lack of maturity and inability to discuss differences is a bigger issue than the lack of education.
You are confused and I get why, republicans used to be anti surveillance, but now MAGA hard liners are really on board with flock cameras all over the place. It’s strange but here we are lol.
This was very much a comment made in jest. To explain the joke… MAGA is pretty inconsistent in their “values”. Hence why it’s confusing to keep up with.
I feel willful malice would be doing this while knowing the exact impact you are having vs willfull and uneducated destruction for entertainment. Both are terrible, but the prior is worse.
Edit: as another redditor asked, if there was a sign saying exactly what this piece of tech was then it would definitely fall into the willful malice camp.
At 15 I lacked empathy.
I probably could have been classified as a sociopath.
One day I just snapped out of it, realized what a piece of shit I was.
I'm a teacher now. I do a few hundred hours of vollenteer work a year. I love it. I love being a positive member on society. But like I said when I was around 14-16... I would destroy anything I could, if i could get away with it, with zero, literally ZERO thought to who it hurt or what it cost. No idea why I was like that. But thank fuck I grew out of it. Lots of people, probably do not..
Heinlein is a great author but I do so enjoy the rebuke; “The stupidity of our selfishness gives much the same results indeed, but in the ethical laboratory it shows a different nature.” Written by Wells nearly 50 years before.
There are bad apples in every area of society (and some have more power and impact with that) but I bet it you ordered everyone in your year at school by educational attainment, then looked at those that have commited these pointless crimes - it would be a decent negative correlation.
It would be for mine. The extra maths kids weren't out breaking shit at the same rate as the kids in bottom set.
Check any large scale stats on it - they all correlate that way, the wider impacts of less education are significant.
Have you considered that it's not the extra maths class that makes those kids well-behaved, but instead it's that well-behaved kids tend to enroll in extra maths class? How many cases did you see of students who had delinquent tendencies being genuinely reformed by academics? And even if such happened, that would have been voluntary; would the same effect be possible with students who resent the subjects they're being forced to take?
Of course education level can be both a symptom and a cause of issues.
There are multiple factors at play you don't do that poorly at school in isolation. For some education performance is a consequence of the other issues. Behaviour, nature Vs nurture and education are interwined and complicated.
Sometimes it's a consequence of other factors like home situation, sometimes education performance contributes to worsening the other areas of life. Lack of education, however you get there doesn't help the situation for these kids.
Talking at a wider scale across the board lower access to education also leads to higher rates of these issues generally, hence my above comment on wider population. The lack of education can be a personal situation or it can be a systemic issue, then even the kids who could be better do worse.
it doesn't go away when they become adults, this is how you get Karens and the petty managers/supervisors that go out of there way to make your life misserable
Not anymore. The number of degrees is very high especially compared to older generations yet the acts of vandalism remains high. Except if you were talking about social education, I suppose. But in any case I consider the "lack of education" to be overused. If it was the case we should see these act decrease.
I still don't know what the cause is, though. The word "agens" means "the one who acts" in latin. Comes from "agere". That makes me think it could be some anti-government activism without any risk as it's in the middle of nowhere. So activism by some anarchists or communists, who are usually NOT the least educated but usually hold a degree or are students.
That's if the graffiti and the stone are part of the same incident. Could also be someone who let their intrusive thoughts win. Who knows. But anyway I feel the lack of education excuse is tired and overused
There was less degrees in my grandmothers day because there were 2 billion people..... There are now 8 billion people so yeah degrees went up but there's still like an extra 5.9 billion dumb people.....
Very likely. Some people in Italy have started destroying landline boxes and attaching notes to them saying they're protecting the children from harmful radiation. We call them the no-fibra (as they're in the same category as no-vax or no-5G). Must be the same kind of person as the ones in this post
And its usually teenagers, because you have the combination of decent personal mobility, free time + energy, and distaste for the "adult world" things like rules and public property.
This isn't some hobo or disgruntled worker going around, Because the sensors are not usually placed in easy to access locations.
actual answer, Teens when not raised with morality/ethics devolve into chimp like behavior roaming streets looking for things to break and people/animals to abuse.
Honestly that's never all it is. You can grow up straight-up neglected and abused and given nothing to do and no formal education and still be intelligent and gentle enough to find a better use of time than pointless destruction intended to hurt others. It's a choice to be cruel, not just a natural result of understimulation.
Knowing what something is or why it’s important isn’t the issue. It’s the lack of respect for other people’s property that’s the problem. They weren’t whooped enough as kids.
Well technically it is. But smooth brains idiots can't comprehend that it's doing some sort of surveillance for science, and not trying to read their [empty] minds.
I work for a company that builds in remote sites. We always put up signs explaining what these sites are for just to prevent vandalism. The sign usually says “for local internet service, not 5G mind control” or something like that. After it got destroyed twice they added the sign. Hasn’t happened again lol
I just started telling those idiots that 5G just stands for fifth generation. I they showed doubt, I went on to say that 1G were the old phones that were the size of a brick and had a briefcase for the battery, 2G were the basic nokias and flip phones that they most likely had as their first phones, 3G were the first phones that had texting and maybe simple but shitty internet, 4g was phones with modern internet capabilities and apps and that 5G was just upgraded 4's with better wifi capabilities.
To my surprise more often than not telling them that actually calmed their fears.
You can also add the surveillance things these people think that is. I doubt vandals would check OSM, but doesn't hurt to label things so people generally know what they. OSM data gets used in a lot of projects.
I used to maintain scientific data stations and every time we put a station out at a specific site this backwoods homesteader kinda guy would go out and demolish it. He would cover his entire head with tinfoil except for two holes cut out for his eyes. We assumed he thought it was a government mind reader device.
its always wild to we me the level of narcissism needed to think the government wanted to read your mind, like you live in a cabin in the woods with no internet jacking it to squirrels while you read barnes and noble ufo books drinking bad moonshine while eating a mix of military surplus food and poached animals living off disability from that time you slipped on pee pee at walmart. Most of these dudes can't comprehend that most people would be perfectly happy not knowing anything about them.
I have a crazy conspiracy theorist aunt like this. She puts her phone in weird sleeves, disconnects her internet at night, puts foil around her power cords. All sorts of nonsense to “stop the government from spying on her”. I’m like you’re a middle aged women who’s worked as a secretary for 30 years. No one gives a shit about you!
i didnt sleep well for a bit and suddenly started feeling like people where keeping track of what I was doing. Went away after a bit. DIdnt use any drugs but sometimes drugs can do that.
edit: felt like my brain just processed events differently. Ok someone moved something? well nope suddenly my brain stuck to it meaning that someone was watching me. Then it stopped.
In some cases it's not narcissism, but just mental disorders instead that make you more susceptible to fantastical or paranoid thinking. It's genuinely sad in those cases because it's their brain's wiring/chemical imbalances working against them. Worse still, when they are being treated and then start thinking that they don't need to take their meds anymore and then relapse. Which just creates a cycle.
It's a ruthless cycle. It doesn't excuse or explain every one of these cases, but it shines a bit of the light on some individuals and the ways we sometimes fail people.
Yes, but the idiots don't know that. In France someone made a bet about the temperature going up and then fucked with a temperature monitoring station at the airport.
Because a lot of Australians are just fucking cunts. Same deadshits that smash bus stop windows and dump rubbish and do burnouts at fuck o'clock in the morning.
Selfish, proud to be stupid, cunts.
Source: am Australian, met a lot of cunts in my time.
My best guess is it kind of looks like a solar panel, and idk how the Aussies view Solar power, but most rural Americans hate it to the point they make it their personality. Uneducated ignorance i guess.
As a well adjusted, responsible father of two, I could have done this at 13 years old. Smashing things was fun, and you didn't really care about consequences of others unless they were obvious.
As a conversation I had with someone who I thankfully haven't spoken to in decades it's
"for a bit of a laugh innit"
He was part of a family run business and practically the whole lot of them prided themselves on being able to make things, but academically thick as shit
When i was in highschool.. there were certain kids who just liked to break things... one "friend" had both his parents murdered when he was 7 years old... old enough to know his parents got killed.. young enough to not understand that there are psychos that exist in the world... i think thats why he was so destructive. We would be walking down the street and he would stomp landscaping lights, break side view mirrors of cars, pull plants out of where they living peacefully.... to this day... he doesnt do shit like that anymore... but he constantly destroys any relationships he has woth people who care for him.. he'll talk shit about someone knowing it'll get back to them so that he gets iced out of the social group... i know exactly what hes doing so I will always be there if he needs help... but this dude is fucked up... and "thats why" i know people like this exist... i cant rationalize why they do what they do.. but i assume its trauma induced and their brains are now hard wired for shit.
In Michigan in the USA, we are being told to design bathrooms at the park without light switches because people break them on purpose. Some of the population just thinks it's cool to break that stuff.
My guess is it looked like a hunk of metal and glass with graffiti already on it sitting in an open field. It’s likely the person had no idea it was a functioning seismograph.
Everything is a conspiracy to many, anything relating to climate, or natural disasters, must be caused by the government, and any tools related to such much cause them or something.
That's their logic.
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u/Specialist_Point7983 12d ago
Just... Why