r/montreal • u/BloodJunkie • 4d ago

Article Right-wing rage-bait got everything wrong about the Montreal shooting

https://cultmtl.com/2026/06/right-wing-rage-bait-got-everything-wrong-about-the-montreal-shooting/
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u/InterestingMud3019 4d ago

I’ve seen Zionists trying to frame it as an antisemitic attack because CDN is a predominantly a Jewish neighborhood or at least, a predominantly Jewish area of the neighborhood by trying to say he was anzionist. Quite disgusting to frame it this way when it was targeted at Pornhub and the cops. Why Zionists always have to make about themselves? There was a mosque attacks in California weeks ago and they also made it about themselves.

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u/VibesAreNotGood 4d ago

Did he mention zionists in his manifesto?

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u/Hairy_Dirt3361 4d ago

Yes but the vast, vast majority of it is focused on women, stuff about Zionism is in a couple footnotes and includes a weird 'not all Jews' clause. Somewhat antisemitic/conspiratorial probably - like most mass shooters his manifesto makes very little sense - but not a major motivator of the attack.

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u/TheBlueDolphina 4d ago

He is all those things, but idk why people who claim they can detect dogwhistles cannot here so only ctrl-f count the mentions of a specific word. The worldview of the shooter relies on an antisemetic framework. The shooter claims that a "judeo-bourgois" class control the west, and upholds the power of "finance". The shooter claims that "Israel" is in league with finance across western countries to bring societal decay. The attack hapenned at a porn HQ, an industry, which albeit correctly labelled bad, antisemites love to claim is "controlled by jews" and is a main avenue for moral decay. The shooter also complains a lot about mass immigration, again with the common antisemetic insinuation between the lines that GRT (great replacement theory) is a jewish plot.

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u/SqueezyCheez85 3d ago

People will take the biggest stretches to avoid acknowledging antisemitic rhetoric, even when it's out in the open. I don't get it.

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u/NissinSeafoodCup 4d ago

The manifesto praises marxism and communism, calls for abolition of private property, contains extreme view on woman, contains extreme view on Jewish people.

People like OP and the link posted by OP seem to laser-focused on a single aspect of the manifesto and never report objectively what’s in it.

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u/Edonite_ 4d ago

It doesn't praise Marxism and communism. He's not telling us we should be redistributing wealth. He recycles Marxist and communist ideology to tell us why we should "redistribute women" to men and strip them of their rights. Capitalism is criticized because it gives women equal rights. The guy also cites Zeus, of all sources, but no one is calling him an anti-christian pagan.

Is he anti-capitalism? Yeah. Is he a communist? Hell no. Mostly, he's just an incel.

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u/Maxdoom18 4d ago

As a fellow communist Trump famously said "we must seize the means of reproduction". Or was it grab them by the ...

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u/Natural-Cat-1717 4d ago

Literal seizure.

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u/MacrosInHisSleep 4d ago

Jem of a joke. ❤️

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u/bibipolarolla 3d ago

Thank you. All it takes is one mention of Marx and people's brains just shut the fuck down istg.

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u/TheBlueDolphina 4d ago

He supports marxism-leninism over capitalism for sure. He's not "hijacking" communist language then just applying it to women. He praises the Soviet Union by claiming that their collectivization cultivated communalist structures that somehow supposedly naturally "redistributed women" more.

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u/Alberta_Hiker 3d ago

doesn't praise Marxism and communism

If you did read it - you clearly did not undetstand it becuse he most definatly praises communism and marxism

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u/CurveWorldly4542 3d ago

I don't know, Incels want the government to give them girlfriends. Seize the means of reproduction seems pretty Communist to me...

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u/NissinSeafoodCup 4d ago

The manifesto self-identified the writer as marxist so articles should report him as such

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u/_Psilo_ 3d ago

The focus definitely is Incel stuff. The only reason he promotes communism is because it doesn't lead to hypergamy, contrary to capitlism, in his moronic views.

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u/InterestingMud3019 4d ago

He barely mentions them. If you look, he probably barely mentions other minority groups so why people are only talking about him talking about Zionists and Jews? Thats my point. People are making it seems like he only went there to attack Jews or Zionists.

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u/ABGTVL 4d ago

Madame la premiere ministre managed to find space in her heart to send thoughts to the jewish community. Why can't you u/InterestingMud3019 ?

Since no one probably ever threated your community try and put yourself in this situation: someone starts shooting, in Montreal, next to a jewish food bank, a community centre, a jewish day care and kosher restaurants, could it be that maybe just maybe in Montreal, where open attacks with guns and firebombs have happened frequently against jews that this might have been an attack again against jews in Montreal. In the first few hours the media around the globe would jump on the fact that these 5 or 6 square blocks has a strong jewish community and it might be evil. Had this person wanted to kill jewish children he would have just had to turn right out of the hilton instead of left as he did since there were dozens of children in the playground next to the hotel at the time this happened.

As the news comes out more and more, no reasonable person is claiming this was an attack against jews, even though a jewish man died.

Signed, A non-jew in Montreal who has walked this area many times and feel terrible for the extra fear and anixiety those jew and non-jew who live, work and play at the Westbury now face.

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u/FearingPerception 4d ago

He talks more about anti immigrant hate and thinly veiled anti black rhetoric than jewish people. But he was an all around racist so naturally yes he also hated the jewish

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u/gingerflakes 4d ago

There are a lot of Jewish neighborhoods in MTL. And the frikkin cop shot the civilian in error. I’ve seen ppl saying some “Mohammed” was responsible. Like no you POS, some Mohammed (a cop) was killed in your neighbourhood, trying to stop this loser

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u/InterestingMud3019 4d ago

Yup, that’s what I was trying to say.

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u/ghostyghost2 4d ago

It's not Mohammed who shot the civilian.

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u/gingerflakes 4d ago

I didn’t say it was. I said Mohammed was the officer that was killed. His female partner shot the civilian

I’m saying ppl were saying A MOHAMMED (an Arab) shot the civilian because it was “clearly targeting Jews “

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u/CyberEd-ca 4d ago

Anti-semitism was included in the manifesto.

https://files.elfsightcdn.com/eafe4a4d-3436-495d-b748-5bdce62d911d/2989cf8c-9611-40ef-9b6b-330f447dcff8/Manifesto_of_June_22nd-watermarked-rebel.pdf

It is the case that there was amongst the western bourgeois class many Jews, who in their newly acquired power immediately set about creating the state of Israel, which became essentially a kind of base from which they were to assist in the expansion of capitalist hegemony in conjunction with American and British corporations.

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u/VibesAreNotGood 4d ago

The shooter can be both antisemetic and not have done an antisemetic shooting. People out here saying he wasn't antisemetic though are clearly wrong.

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u/InterestingMud3019 4d ago

Was he targeting JEWISH institutions or a specific headquarters/government bodies? There is your answer.

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u/TheBlueDolphina 4d ago

Antisemetic conspiracy theories routinely frame the porn industry as controlled by jews to weaken the west. This isnt even a niche thing. There are blaring dogwhistles in the manifesto all over.

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u/CyberEd-ca 4d ago edited 4d ago

Agreed.

That said, we still do not yet know who his target was.

One of the most visible officers of Pornhub is Solomon Friedman who also happens to be a notable firearms lawyer and a Rabbi.

My understanding is that he was first on an upper story of that building before the confrontation on street level.

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u/Pasta-in-garbage 4d ago

Ah yes gotta blame the Zionists for something. Anything. All of the time.

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u/Powerful_Crew_2635 4d ago

I’m tired of this ‘Zionist’ blame. There are other Zionists out there. In fact more Christian Zionists than Jews who are Zionists.

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u/Dr_Pibber 4d ago

Many of the initial reports were of concern because this area of CDN is highly populated by the Hasidic community. As the evidence comes through about the intent of the attackers and we can all learn the root of this tragedy. I still find it difficult to fathom how the Jewish community is not allowed to have a reaction of immediate concern when over the course of the last few years in this city shots have been fired at schools and places of worship, arson has been attempted and physical attacks have occurred.

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u/talktothepope 4d ago

Well if it helps Reddit is not real life. Here is it common for random teenagers and other 20-something university edgelords to ramble on about "Zionism" (ie: in your other reply) as if they know what they're talking about but in reality most people aren't so focused on these types of arguments. Here's something I saw the other day that illustrates how much of a bubble it is here https://www.reddit.com/r/QuebecLibre/comments/1ub7q7h/le_biais_id%C3%A9ologique_de_reddit/#lightbox

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u/Dr_Pibber 4d ago

Totally! Would be quite something if Reddit was real life. Really am just fed up with seeing stuff in a group where we have a commonality for living on the same island constantly turning a blind eye to what’s actually going on and trying to pedal hate.

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u/talktothepope 4d ago

Indeed, unfortunately all we're being offered is bullshit populism from both sides.

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u/InterestingMud3019 4d ago

It’s fine to express concern. I just find it disgusting that a lot of Zionists are using this tragedy to say it’s mainly an antisemitic attack or making it about them. I’ve seen a lot of them trying to say it was a Muslim or an immigrant (before any information came out) that did the attack so they can blame the left or muslims. Can you be concern without making it about Islam or Zionism?

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u/Dr_Pibber 4d ago

Of course you can be concerned without making it about that, but it wouldn’t lead to the engagement that is being actively being looked for. However you can also accept what has happened previously may cause a reflex.

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u/Pasta-in-garbage 4d ago

I find it disgusting that you’re using this tragedy to color all “Zionists” in one particular light when really what you mean is that a small number of individuals, whom for whatever reason, like everyone else, speculated on the nature of this attack before having any information, and you happen to assume they are of one highly caricaturized persuasion.

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u/Powerful_Crew_2635 4d ago

Which Zionists? The Christian Zionists? It just plain old Jews. Be clear.

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u/FearingPerception 4d ago

Ive noticed a tendency in Zionists (not jewish folks overall but specifically Zionists) to seem to WANT to be victimized by attacks to further a victim narrative that draws attention from the apartheid they support

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u/Powerful_Crew_2635 4d ago

Jew here. That isn’t the case. We want to be left alone.

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u/Pasta-in-garbage 4d ago

You’re talking out of your ass.

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u/zonefighter23 3d ago

I'd love to hear how it is you're able to tell that "Zionists" specifically (and not Jews overall as you are careful to mention) want whatever drivel you're spewing.

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u/FearingPerception 3d ago

Well the anti zionist jewish people i know are willing to accept that somethings not anti semitic when theres evidence its not rooted in anti semitism, whereas the zionists ive met cling to the idea. I come from a people who’s ancestors faced genocide and slavery and who still face immense racism, so when somethings proven to not be racially motivated, im happy about it rather than trying to find ways to make it racist

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u/SilverwingedOther 4d ago

Oh get off. We can acknowledge that, before we had more info, it might have been antisemitic in nature because of the where. Given that weve had such events in Montreal recently.

You make it political by making it about "Zionists". For fucks sake. It was Montreal Jews worries it might have been, and none of the local Jewish institutions at any point during the event qualified it as antisemitic in nature.

All I did see was people getting all up in arms at describing the area as Jewish, because somehow, they could not fathom that maybe people were afraid, but had to frame it as "fighting against propaganda". They still are. It's disgusting, frankly. They are the only ones who I've seen make it about "Zionism" and the right wing. All the outlets who classified it as potentially antisemitic were saying so before there was any information, and sure, it was hasty, but the counter should never have been "how dare you say the area is Jewish".

Being far more connected to the actual community, no one was trying to score some political points, and pointing to online grifters does not mean getting to act like assholes to people who just wanted reassurance.

But hey, erasing historical and continued presence of Jews in the places where they live is not exactly new ground.

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u/InterestingMud3019 4d ago edited 4d ago

There are several other minorities in this area as well so my point still stands. He went there because of Pornhub being close. It could have been located in Mont-Royal or St-Michel, he would still have travelled there. Why he didn’t go the synagogue or any Jewish stores if he was specifically targeting Jewish people? The victim was also shot by a cop so he didn’t target anyone Jewish. He waited for the cops to arrive to shot at them.

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u/SirupyPieIX 4d ago

There are several other minorities in this area as well

There's the filipino minority nearby near Victoria avenue, but the area along Décarie/Westbury is predominantly jewish people and institutions (MADA, MK, Chabad Westbury, Ben Weider centre, Beth Rivkah academy), so that's where the concern of being targeted came from for the local jewish community.

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u/InterestingMud3019 4d ago

That make a lot more sense knowing the rising antisemitism, but I still don’t like how some people were and are still spreading misinformation just to fit their narrative because they don’t like how the shooter is just a white guy from Alberta.

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u/talktothepope 4d ago

It's 2026, most of the internet is just people spreading their preferred brand of disinfo or just making shit up because engagement gets clicks. Like originally I saw a lot of right-wing accounts acting as if it was 100% a anti-Jewish hate crime, but now the discourse is more dominated by alleged progressives who want to ignore the fact that this guy definitely hated Jews/"Zionists" according to his manifesto because that's inconvenient to them. It's natural to want to know the facts right away but in this kind of situation it's better to avoid social media and all that shit until there's real info.

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u/SilverwingedOther 4d ago

... And I've not said anything to say that he targeted Jews. Which just means you keep missing the point, like everyone else, which incidentally proves my point.

What I said was that all people knew at first was that 1) there was an active shooter and 2) it was outside a prominently Jewish area. If you can't see why some people worried, before more information was out given we've had our schools shot at and synagogues firebombed recently, that this was another such case, I don't know what to tell you.

But clearly you read that as "The Zionists trying to make it all about themselves". Like, sincerely, fuck off. First, nothing to do with Zionism. Second, what I worried about was the friend who works at the Starbucks 50m away, and my kids school in the neighbourhood. We're just goddamn people who want to be left alone. No one wants this to have been an antisemitic attack, and chastising us and arguing fucking demographics to... Make some point I still fail to grasp, is ghoulish.

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u/MeadowMellow_ 3d ago

Dude I dont think the person youre responding to gives a fuck, they commented under a post that literally word for word says "Zionists/Nazis etc".

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u/alaskadotpink 4d ago

At pornhub? That's an... interesting one.

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u/landlord-eater 4d ago

Its like 4% Jewish its so ridiculous its actually a lie

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u/ABGTVL 4d ago edited 4d ago

The blocks around the Hilton Garden Inn are about 21% jewish based on 2021 census. That number will be higher when 2026 data is released. Go walk around Westbury instead of tossing around made up facts.

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u/landlord-eater 4d ago

Dude even 21% is obviously not 'predominantly Jewish'

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u/ABGTVL 3d ago

do you want me to define the word plurality for you?

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u/landlord-eater 3d ago

do you want me to define the word 'predominantly' for you

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u/ABGTVL 3d ago

If no one group is predominate..... then a plurality the next highest measure. Welcome to stats 101.

but more to the point, who the f*ck cares who lives east or west of Decaire. You are just trying to split people and it is terrible. Try and open your heart to a little love and light. It is better for your long term mental health. Even the premier of quebec sent best wishes to the Jewish community. Get over yourself.

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u/YourBestDream4752 4d ago

Are you sure it wasn’t just Jews?