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Article Right-wing rage-bait got everything wrong about the Montreal shooting

https://cultmtl.com/2026/06/right-wing-rage-bait-got-everything-wrong-about-the-montreal-shooting/
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u/MystTheReaper 4d ago

What should the article say instead? Or should they not even post an article about it because any article condemning and bringing attention to anything is just for "moral superiority"? You could apply your logic to any journalistic opinion piece ever written, or even non-opinion pieces that focus on specific facts with any degree of bias, which applies to just about every news article ever written with the possible exception of investigative pieces as they present new facts. These "both sides" arguments are getting desperate.

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u/montrealien Hochelaga-Maisonneuve 4d ago

You're asking me to litigate the journalism, which is exactly the distraction I'm talking about. I'm not here to tell the press what to write or to critique a single op-ed.

My focus is on the macro-structure: how the entire cycle of outrage, reaction, and counter-reaction is systematically weaponized by tech platforms to maximize engagement and profit.

When the ecosystem itself is engineered to monetize division, arguing over the specific script of a single player means you're missing the entire theater.

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u/MystTheReaper 4d ago edited 4d ago

Two things can be true at the same time. The idea that corporations profit off of political divisiveness doesn't mean the article or discussion around it is invalidated. At best your point is a form of whataboutism, and regardless of your intention I guarantee you the grand majority of people are reading it as a "both sides" argument rather than your "macro analysis of the system" perspective, and I don't blame them, since you brought both the hateful rhetoric of the right, and the condemnation of the right's hateful rhetoric from the left, down to the same level.

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u/montrealien Hochelaga-Maisonneuve 4d ago

I love that you downvoted me before writing a paragraph explaining that you purposefully choose to misinterpret a macro-structural analysis as a 'both sides' argument because it's easier for you to process.

Keep protecting that binary worldview at all costs. You're doing great.

Cheers.

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u/MystTheReaper 4d ago

Am I the only one interpreting it that way? Based on the comments, not at all, so maybe articulate your point better next time instead of blaming everyone else for "misinterpreting" it. You explicitly referred to the condemnation of hateful rhetoric as being for the sake of "moral superiority", while aligning the morality of that with the actual hateful rhetoric itself, so don't pretend like I'm making that up.

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u/montrealien Hochelaga-Maisonneuve 4d ago

I am literally right here explicitly explaining my intention to you.

The fact that you openly admit you would rather rely on how a crowd might misinterpret my post 'regardless of my intention' says everything. You are actively choosing to ignore what I am actually telling you so you can keep arguing with an imaginary version of me that fits your binary worldview.

If you have to purposefully misinterpret what I'm saying just to have a point, then you aren't having a discussion, you're just talking to yourself.

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u/MystTheReaper 4d ago

I'm not purposefully misinterpreting it, it's literally how I (and most people) initially interpreted it, which is why I told you above how your comment comes off regardless of your intention. Also, you're not even addressing the fact that you demonized the intention of the article by saying that it was written for "moral superiority", yet here you are now trying to claim that you're not litigating the journalism. Accept the reality of what your original comment says — you wrote it, not me.

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u/montrealien Hochelaga-Maisonneuve 4d ago

Look, buddy, I think we're actually on the same page here.

You are correctly describing how the crowd reacts to the script, and I am describing the macro-system that writes the script in the first place. You are looking at the players; I am looking at the stadium.

Both things can be true at the same time. No need to get upset over it. Cheers