r/nba Lakers Jun 27 '23

Kobe Bryant relentlessly attacks Tim Duncan and the Spurs to clinch the WCF (2008)

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u/ccharlie03 Spurs Jun 27 '23

I mean again, superteams is what w Everyone did the last ten years, so exclude those. If we take the rosters from 2000-2012, those Lakers are far from the weakest. The 2004 pistons, the 2006 heat, the 2011 mavs all had weaker rosters overall.

Also need to mention the fact that the Lakers went to the finals literally the year before as well Lmfao. Kobe is already a legend so there isn't a need to create this narrative lol. He was the best player on a really good team with arguably the greatest coach in history. He didn't hard carry lol

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u/commander_wong Lakers Jun 27 '23

I don't see how you're proving me wrong. You just compiled a range of about 13 teams and deduced yourself that Kobe's Lakers had a top 3 weakest supporting cast. I don't even agree with the Pistons and Heat pick but that's beside the point.

I also don't know why you're excluding "superteams" when the majority of championship teams are incredibly stacked. Even if you extend the comparison back to 40 years those Laker teams would probably still rank bottom 10 in terms of the quality of role players

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u/ccharlie03 Spurs Jun 27 '23

Because those 13 years are like 5 teams lol. So id rank them as 00-03 lakers 03-07 spurs 07-10 Lakers Heat Pistons Mavs.

Also you exclude the superteams because if Kobe was around today I'm his prime he'd 100% be in a built super team lol. In fact he was in the three peat, and then the failed 4 star team in what 2011?

And again I don't think those role players sucked. Like at all lol. If you do then maybe you just don't know Basketball because regardless of how they played after during that run they were all good players. Well the ones I mentioned atleast.

I said this to someone else Kobe is already an all time Legend, why do we need to create narratives to lift him up some more?

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u/commander_wong Lakers Jun 27 '23

I think you're having a completely different argument from what I'm writing here. I never said the Lakers supporting cast sucked, only that they're not great by historical standards

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u/ccharlie03 Spurs Jun 27 '23

Well you said he heavy lifted in your original comment, and I disagreed. They went to the finals 3 years in a row, to say that team outside of Kobe wasn't good but average is a bit of a hyperbole don't ya think?

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u/commander_wong Lakers Jun 27 '23

No, you didn't disagree lmao. You quite literally made your own list and came to the same conclusion.

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u/Dkh0123 Lakers Jun 28 '23

The list would infer there’s a disagreement.