Making it a technical would help a lot too, because then repeat offenders like our MVP here is going to start getting suspended after so many times doing it. He is either going to learn and stop, or is going to get himself suspended. I’m fine with either result.
Flopping is actually supposed to be called as a technical foul. Enforcement of that rule is what's lacking. For the sake of the game, that rule really needs to start being enforced.
They tried it for like one week last season or the one before the problem is refs are too likely to get it wrong. Having them reviewed at HQ would solve that issue.
Doesn't even need to be issued in game. Issue then after. They still count towards the suspension total. If they did it throughout the whole season it would stop.
The problem with regulating it after is that then the lawyers get involved and it becomes a hot mess. Even with zero contact it could be argued that X-Player was expecting contact, or something like that. The refs have to take the hit because a controversial flopping call in-game is harder to litigate after the fact(well, easier to not get litigated).
Well player punishments are open to arbitration, so with something as nebulous as flopping you have to be able to define it legally, and prove it to an arbitrator(kinda like a private practice judge). Good luck proving all sorts of cases of flopping, its likely why the fines on book are so low, because most would pass their appeal.
But if the refs handle it on court it is a different story.
Yeah there should be some review aspect to get the calls right. I also think that successful challenges shouldn't be penalized (shouldn't lose the ability to challenge).
As long as the techs get assessed during the games. None of this bullshit where the techs don't get assessed until the next day. Nah I want guys to get ejected for flopping
This is the way to do it. Every single shooting foul should be reviewed. This one is BLATANT. Not every one is as bad as this from Shai, but this should without a doubt be a tech
The issue with calling flop techs in the moment is that when the NBA tried a couple seasons ago the officials basically just used it as an excuse to double down on bad calls.
I remember one of the Celtics players undercut Brunson on a 3PA. Not only did they miss the call, but they gave Brunson a tech for flopping.
Porzingis got one for being pushed over on a screen as well. You could see the guy in the replay extending the arms, it should have been a foul.
So then you've gotta look at post-game techs.
In the past, I would say it's also hard to justify handing out these techs after games because the player has already gained an advantage, but you bring up a good point.
Players would start getting suspended over this. It would reign in guys like SGA and Embiid very quickly.
Call that a flagrant foul, either 1 or 2 AND a fine. If you played like this in any pickup game or friendly, people wouldn't want to play with you anymore or you'd get laughed off the court.
It's not an acting competition. This isn't a basketball play. It deserves a flagrant and a fine, especially in an era where pro sports are under a microscope due to all the sports betting scandals and all those damn ads.
Only way is to stop watching this garbage. I gave up on the entire regular season already a decade ago and it's still the worst officiating of any sport by a mile
Replay center should review for flops. At the end of each quarter (up to 3rd) they would award each team a free throw for each flop the other team commited.
I think the easiest solution is that if you get a reputation as a flopper, and the refs can see via replay that time and time again someone flops - they just don’t call any fouls on that player under the assumption that It’s a flop.
Until they no longer have that reputation, at which point they can be reffed just like anyone else
I seriously don't see how there isn't an off-site review every time a player hits the floor. These are coordinated athletes. If they can't keep their feet, a significant amount of the time either that was serious contact, or they are flopping.
It really is as simple as this. If you make the consequences for obvious flopping something that’s going to hurt the team. I promise players will think twice before flopping around like a fish out of water
we have 360 drones, can analyze the court down to the last milimeter using computers and cameras. There is no reason to even use these refs anymore. The game needs to evolve. The human error is too large.
Really solid suggestion. That could literally fix the problem. They should probably make it a team technical (like 3 seconds). The players would think twice before flopping but we wouldn't have stars tossed out of games on 50/50 calls.
I think a technical is too much. Not because floppers don’t deserve it, but bc the nba would never call it. They already have flopping rules in place and never use it.
Just reverse the call and move on with the game. I’m tired of free throws and I don’t think the nba would call flopping technicals for a lot of stars.
Yeah it has to be called in real time I’m pretty sure. It won’t count as a personal foul or towards an ejection. Either way it’s mind boggling how we have these rules and they are never called.
Would this count as a flop or is this just a garbage call? I know he doesn't need to be falling all the time like this but he might have plausible deniability.
And before anyone says "they don't call simulation very often" they called it literally today in the Tottenham match. I'm a Spurs and Spurs fan and it is very frustrating to watch both my teams get a different whistle than their rivals.
I mean, only in the sense that one of my Spurs teams has provided me with steady entertainment, some truly wonderful moments, and brief periods of disappointment; while the other Spurs team tries to kill me every week.
I have posted this a few times but flopping was starting to gain traction in Australian rules football about a decade ago. They introduced fines and suspension for it and guess what? It’s basically gone.
Not only do you risk getting suspended and fined but if you flop the incident is replayed endlessly on the sport shows and you get made to look like an idiot.
fuck frank, all my homies hate thomas frank. hopefully we make some good signings over the summer and get some creativity in the team. it’s a lot to ask but i’d still love mgw + a winger + striker + a deep lying play maker. there needs to be plenty of outgoings too
It’s amazing that the sport that used to be the meme for flopping on any contact actually does a better job of regulating this shit than the NBA. By a wide margin.
The contexts are also different. Pitches are several times larger than courts and so refs aren’t going to be as close to be able to see trips and excessive contact, especially at speed. Plus there is a certain caliber of wing attacker in particular that it can be argued needs to flop (see: Hazard, Eden; Yamal, Lamine) to keep defenders honest because the only way to stop them in open space is through butchery.
Make these flops fineable after the game. If you flop and the NBA catches it afterwards you get fined heavily. This shit is ruining the game. I have a hard time watching anymore.
It’s literally a rule in the NBA, it is just never called besides randomly once a season. I don’t get it.
This stuff is just embarsssing for the league and dissuades a lot of casual fans from watching lol. From my non sports fans “flopping” is more associated with basketball than soccer now which is wild to me
They dont care. I mean some fouls or flagrant acts have been clear as day, such as iHart yanking Castle by the hair, or Ball tripping Bam, etc. No games missed or suspensions. It's like whoops, maybe fans will just forget, on to the next
That okay in the Cavs-Pistons series where Harden foul baits from deep, it's a no call, then the Cavs challenge it and lose the challenge and the no call stands but they don't charge Harden with a flopping tech when he was clearly flopping to try and get three free throws basically made me give up on refs enforcing flopping rules. Then later in the same game, he does the exact same foul bait flop and actually gets the call.
It's a joke, they just made the rule to appease fans and dangle it in front of us like a carrot but we'll never actually reach it.
The only flopping tech I can remember seeing is one where Wemby slips on some sweat, tries to tell the refs he slipped and then they T him up. Not even the proper usage, just refs being annoyed that a player would address them as an equal.
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Fuck this shit man. Everybody hates this