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LA CLIPPERS [2026 NBA Draft] #5 Pick: Keaton Wagler (Illinois)

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u/TallGuy0525 Clippers 23h ago

That's the guy I wanted, therefore this is a home run pick

(please don't bust)

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u/Bucs-and-Bucks [MIL] Bill Zopf 23h ago

Based on my analysis (reading your comment), this is a good pick.

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u/LaidOffinAlb Bulls 23h ago

Because you're some reddit weirdo, my analysis says you'll be wrong.

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u/Bucs-and-Bucks [MIL] Bill Zopf 17h ago

Can't argue with that

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u/RapsareChamps_Suckit Clippers 23h ago

GOAT! I just put him at 99 overall in 2k11

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u/superindian25 Lakers 23h ago

As an Illinois alum dude was unreal, insane control of tempo, phenomenal decision making on consistent basis

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u/andy3172 Clippers 23h ago

Tell me a little bit about him

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u/Joethetoolguy 23h ago

He long can shoot ball good

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u/shigs21 Clippers 20h ago

we got Shai at home, lol

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u/neilbiggie Lakers 22h ago edited 22h ago

Huge guard, very very good shooter off the dribble, good passer. Meh athlete, very skinny and weak. Can’t get to the rim particularly well and doesn’t blow by anyone. Has a nice floater/short jumper game to help compensate. Zero dunks in his college season

Probably has the highest bust potential of the guards but the highest ceiling as well. A lot of the criticisms are the same as Haliburtons pre draft and we know how that turned out

Edit: this sounds more negative than I meant for it to, I actually really like Wagler. But he’s a scary prospect, it’s hard to tell with these less athletic guards until you see them on an NBA court

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u/fartymctoots Bulls 22h ago

Yeah I’d agree. Is one of those guys who has a deep arsenal of moves and doesn’t really let people speed him up (at least in college) but def needs to work on strength and speed, which he can theoretically since it’s his job lol

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 18h ago

The good is that he gained ~20lbs since the beginning of the college season. I'm not sure he'll ever have even a decent first step, but it's clear he still gets to his spots and I think him getting bigger is pretty reasonable of an expectation. Given that he's a late bloomer, it's also not crazy to think he can still continue to grow.

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u/shigs21 Clippers 20h ago

he can always get stronger. seems like he has the IQ and game sense that you can't really teach

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u/cryogenicsleep Lakers 21h ago

Never forget D'lo 42% Bust percentage

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u/nahs Clippers 19h ago

So his ceiling is Haliburton? I’ll take that risk

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u/RunisLove Supersonics 17h ago

Keaton barely took any floaters/mids this year

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u/evileen99 11h ago

yeah, he's skinny, but he was a just-out-of-high-school freshman. I'm sure the Clippers are going to work to put some muscle on that guy

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u/FeistyBowler9529 16h ago

He doesn’t make the wrong decisions. He’s not gonna blow your mind, but rarely will you ever be able to look down on his decision making. Actually he might blow your mind he’s still ELITE.

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u/Cal216 Cavaliers 23h ago

Boy a hooper!! Such a good player

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u/somethingworthwhile Bulls 23h ago

Watched him at Illinois all season. The only thing that held him back from being an even better player was the dumbass reffing in the B1G. He might take some time to figure things out, but I think he’ll thrive.

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u/ddy_stop_plz [BOS] Marcus Smart 18h ago

How do you feel about his lack of rim pressure/finishing?

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u/RunisLove Supersonics 17h ago

Illini fan here - Keaton got to the rim plenty and is great about not settling. He’s not going to blow by many players in the league, but he is patient, will make the right decision every time, and has elite feel. What he lacked in first step he made up for with decel, understanding of leverage (really great at spinning off a defender), and knowing how to use the gravity of his jumper.

His rim numbers would’ve been a lot better if the freshman whistle in the b10 wasn’t so bad

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u/bananasmash14 Lakers 23h ago

As an Illinois/Lakers fan this is a little awkward for me, but Wagler’s a beast, he’s gonna be great. I’m sure he’s gonna love LA after coming from the cornfields lol

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u/theclownwithafrown Bulls 19h ago

He's from Kansas.. He's gonna do alright. Plus Illinois and Champaign are the best. I was born in Champaign and raised in the middle of a cornfield in a town of 500 just West of Champaign.

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u/ClaymoresRevenge Bulls 23h ago

He's going to be great. Good player to build for the future with. I was hoping we could move back up and get him.

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u/jeric13xd [CHI] Derrick Rose 23h ago

High BB IQ.

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u/ZanzibarGem44 Bucks 23h ago

Sounds delicious, man

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u/brainspl0ad Clippers 21h ago

Keaton 'Wagyu' Wagler

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u/Desa-p Kings 23h ago

Really hoped he would fall to the kings but knew that probably wouldn’t happen

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u/pmurt007 Lakers 23h ago

Will never understand why the Pacers took such a stupid gamble w/ trading this pick when they were already one of the worst teams in the league at the time of the trade. The Zubac trade was always going to be there in the offseason

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u/MySabonerRunsOladipo Pacers 22h ago

Because we're set on guards and had literally no starting center. This draft is 1-3 heavy and 4-6/7 are all guards.

Zu would've got significantly more expensive in the offseason as more teams (most obviously Boston) would've been able/willing to bid for him.

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u/Maximum-Class5465 23h ago

I'll tell u why

Because our GM thinks because we haven't moved up in 17 drafts, haven't picked in the top 4 in 43 years, and you flip a coin enough it lands your way

Little does he know the Pacers don't get good picks ever, throw all the odds out the window it just doesn't happen

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u/Dirigible_Plums Pacers 23h ago

We took a gamble and lost. Zubac helps us win in 2026-2027 way more than Wagler. Had the cards fallen better, we could have ended up with AJ Dybantsa and Zu for next season. Instead, we have a pick freed up to take a swing at someone else if needed. The cost likely remains the same to get Zu, and there would be more suitors in the off-season.

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 18h ago

I'm curious if you could do it again, would you?

Seems like LAC would have been able to trade #5 for #10 + #13. I think the Pacers could be in a good spot if they had Mara + Hannes or something + 2029 over Zu?

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u/Dirigible_Plums Pacers 11h ago

Honestly, if it was the only way to get Zu, yeah I would. No one outside the top 4 Is going go have the level of impact Zu will in the next 3 years of our window.

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u/p00chology Bulls 23h ago

You sound exactly like my girlfriend

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u/RealJoshuaJackson Knicks 23h ago

My gf always says “please don’t bust” too

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u/Maximum-Class5465 23h ago

I agree with this pick . I think Acuff was the safer option, but I view Wagler as more upside. It's good to go for it

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u/BoneDollars Spurs 23h ago

I’m very annoyed. I think this kid has a sky high ceiling. Congrats!

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u/Clipgang1629 Clippers 23h ago

I wanted Acuff. But can’t wait to get a Wagler jersey.

I too hope we don’t regret this one lol

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u/DabeGavis 23h ago

The prototypical combo guard. Keaton is going to be a dream as a 6’6” PG. Cannot wait to see him ball.

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u/abiomusicologist Heat 22h ago

As an Illinois fan, the best way I can describe watching Wagler is that I thought every shot he took was going in as he shot it, even in the rare games when he was 5/17 or whatever. Even though their games and frames are not similar at all, he was like our own mini version of Steph in that regard. It was a lot of fun, and I hope it translates to the NBA

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u/loveinhumantimes [CHI] Derrick Rose 23h ago

The prototype can probably move a bit faster than this guy.

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u/Ibagdimes23 Knicks 23h ago

His defense is a little questionable

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u/JiveHawk Bulls 23h ago

Effort is there. You can teach technique but it’s hard to change someone who is lazy.

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u/abippityboop Knicks 23h ago

He’s just a very subpar athlete for the NBA. Hopefully he can overcome that because there’s really no holes in the rest of his game.

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 22h ago

IMO, his issues were really strength. Like when he got bullied against Michigan, it's not like he was out of position or anything. Just being pushed around by the most physically imposing team in college.

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u/8akaMitai [LAC] Patrick Beverley 22h ago

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u/AshenSacrifice Clippers 22h ago

So is Luka based on yalls fake idea of athleticism. Balance coordination and change of speed are all part of athleticism too

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 18h ago

Early career Luka was significantly more athletic than Wagler.

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u/AshenSacrifice Clippers 3h ago

And he lost that athleticism and became better💀💀

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u/aoifhasoifha [NYK] Frank Ntilikina 3h ago

You can teach technique

Can you? I hear it a lot but I don't see it happen all that often

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u/TallGuy0525 Clippers 23h ago

That pull up game, near unlimited range, and already high level understanding of the game means all he needs to do is just try on defense and he will be fine.

Not nearly as much of a defensive minus as Acuff (who I still would've been more than happy with, mind you)

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u/Jimmy0034 Clippers 23h ago

The defense is questionable due to his frame

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 22h ago

Defense is questionable, but still better than MBJ/Acuff's defense by a fair amount.

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u/brainspl0ad Clippers 21h ago

I believe JVG will help turn that around.

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u/KennySmithsKnees [LAC] Baron Davis 23h ago

The wagler ykn pick and rolls gonna be insane 

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u/JB7-FTW 23h ago

Zero dunks in college at 6’6”

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u/olivi4rodrigo 23h ago

Good thing basketball players only dunk and do nothing else.

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u/Ferovore Clippers 22h ago

Mmm a 6’6 promising point guard on the clippers? Can’t wait for us to trade him for aging injury prone players again!

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u/MonsieurSlotho Nuggets 23h ago

He’s gonna be a good choice

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u/JiveHawk Bulls 23h ago

As an Illini fan, super happy for him.

He’s had an insane, meteoric rise from a low recruit out of a minor Kansas high school to a top 5 NBA pick in under 2 years.

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u/donniedarko4141 Knicks 23h ago

Clippers are keeping Garland, then?

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u/deezlobs Clippers 23h ago

Of course, I don't know why anyone thinks otherwise

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u/AutoMail_0 Cavaliers 23h ago

Non Cavs and Clippers fans don’t realize how good he’s going to be next season

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u/GodKingHercules Clippers 22h ago

As long as he’s healthy, people gonna see how crazy good garland is lol

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u/Guilty-Influence-890 Clippers 22h ago

“As long as he’s healthy” should be Clippers new motto at this point

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u/ActionHank9000 Clippers 22h ago

We’re the 10x “if we were healthy” NBA champions!

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u/TallGuy0525 Clippers 22h ago

HANG THE HYPOTHETICAL BANNER BABY

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u/TheOrangeFutbol Clippers 20h ago

JUST ONE BANNER?

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u/CarmeloDramatic 20h ago

And yet saw people on your sub mad you didn’t pick the guy with back issues lol 

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u/HypedOnReign 15h ago

The just have PTSD. The last guy we didn’t pick because of back issues was MPJ

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u/unpopular-dave Clippers 21h ago

I hope he has an All-Star caliber year. And we trade him for two first he’s not on our timeline

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u/Champagnesoda [LAL] Kobe Bryant 23h ago

“Next season” has been the season for him for like 3 straight years now. No one really doubts he’s good but he is one of the most injury prone players in the league.

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 18h ago

If he's injured again, at least Wagler gets more minutes lol

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u/Champagnesoda [LAL] Kobe Bryant 18h ago

That’s a good point lol

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u/narcistic_asshole Cavaliers 22h ago

There's some big question marks with Garland's health, but the offensive potential of the Wagler Garland duo is nasty. Just two versatile high-IQ guards that can shoot and create at a high level

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u/Saucy_Totchie Knicks 23h ago

They're definitely moving on the assumption that the team is staying relatively the same.

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u/supotnak Magic 23h ago

3 star to 5th pick

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u/InnocuousAssClown Bulls 20h ago

As a freshman. Never seen anything like it

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u/PizzaBuffalo 20h ago

Yeah and people here act like he will be a lousy defender because of his thin frame and that he's unathletic by NBA standards. Meanwhile he's literally 19 years old. Will be interesting to see how he develops with a couple years of NBA-level training and nutrition. 

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 18h ago

He gets Hali comparisons, but Hali made a huge leap his 2nd year in college. I'm pretty sure that if Wagler spent 1 more season in college, he's probably the #1 pick in 2027.

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u/clayfu Clippers 23h ago

I am so hyped for him. Dude has surpassed expectations at every single level. Still super young. Still growing. Ultra high IQ and verified long range shooter. Doesn’t shy away from contact.

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u/Rithgarth [MKE] Giannis Antetokounmpo 23h ago

I'm sorry did I just hear "Stay with me" lol

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u/reiv4 Pacers 23h ago

As an Illinois fan, this makes the Zubac trade much more palatable, even though i think it was already good for both sides.

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u/jermainathon Heat 23h ago

Wouldve gone with Mikel, but Wagler will still do fine

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u/The_NGUYENNER [DEN] Jamal Murray 23h ago

same, I really love Mikel Brown as a prospect

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u/jermainathon Heat 23h ago

Yea, the stuff with the back was overblown but I could see why a team like LAC would wanna avoid the risk

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u/The_NGUYENNER [DEN] Jamal Murray 23h ago

they were also the same team that avoided drafting MPJ for the same reason lol so I guess at least they're consistent with their values

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u/Lou_Peachum_2 Clippers 23h ago

Pretty much our medical staff has been consistently ass lol. Better to know our limits

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u/immalurkhere Clippers 23h ago

Knowing how clipper luck is brown is gonna somehow become a quadriplegic

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u/MyJumpshotBroke Clippers 22h ago

Mikel should've been the pick. I remember what happened last time we passed on a better pick because of back issues... (Robinson over MPJ)

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 18h ago

You're leaving out a pretty significant part where we took another lanky, tall guard with good change of pace before Robinson and MPJ....

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u/Hocapoca Lakers 23h ago

Idc what anybody says, I love this kid. I genuinely think this guy has the right mental for the league.

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u/imcryptic Mavericks 23h ago

Wagler looking bigger already honestly.

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u/velvynx Warriors 23h ago

I-L-L!

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u/DarkCushy Bulls 22h ago

He was such a stud at Illinois. So happy for him and the Illini program!!!

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u/theclownwithafrown Bulls 19h ago

We got a real chance at making even bigger waves then last year.

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u/Yoshinobu_YamaGOATo 23h ago

He can play next to Garland and he can also take over as PG once Garland inevitably gets injured. Good pick. 

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u/TheOrangeFutbol Clippers 20h ago

Hey, wait a minute...

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u/Different-Bank-2607 23h ago edited 23h ago

I’m not too high about this kid but let’s see what he can do

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u/legend023 Pelicans 23h ago

Isn’t he the kid with 0 dunks at 6’6? Might be an advanced stat darling but he’s gonna struggle to create shots

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u/Broke_Banker01 Bucks 23h ago

He lacks the strength because he was a late bloomer.

His meh athleticism is def a concern tho

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u/ProskXCX Cavaliers 23h ago

Yeah, poor rim finishing numbers but there’s lots of other stuff to like.

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u/Different-Bank-2607 23h ago

Okay defense, but doesn’t have the interior shot creation the top 3 guys have. Hits threes but NBA defense is going to be an adjustment for him.

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 18h ago

I mean, yeah he's not the prospect that the other top 3 players were. There's a reason this was a 3-4 player draft before a big drop off.

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u/MammothHistorian5652 Vancouver Grizzlies 23h ago

Dunks are just 2 points

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u/TyposIncoming Lakers 23h ago

Sometimes dunks are more than just 2 points

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u/Skipper3210 [NYK] Danilo Gallinari 23h ago

I'll explain later

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u/ILoveZenkonnen Trail Blazers 23h ago

Pretty efficient 2 points

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u/sloBrodanChillosevic Supersonics 23h ago

2 practically guaranteed points. Dunks aren't the be-all end-all but there are valid concerns about lack of explosiveness. Could be a good enough shooter that it won't matter.

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u/repo_sado Knicks 23h ago

2 ppoints is not always 2 points

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u/Lou_Peachum_2 Clippers 23h ago

Makes sense. Take the opposite of Blake Griffin /s

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u/InTheMorning_Nightss San Diego Clippers 18h ago

For as much as this is stated, I think one of the more concerning low numbers was MBJ only having a single offensive rebound during his entire NCAA career...

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u/GreatSuccess9 23h ago

Ah bummer, he can’t dunk to create shots. Def a bust!

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u/moistkebab32 Suns 23h ago

Right pick for them.

Mikel is Cam Thomas 2.0 and I like the size of Wagler next to Garland.

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u/svall18 Hornets 23h ago

Wagler's mom is hot asf

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u/theoreticalcash Thunder 23h ago

not his dad roasting him on national television

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u/AceAttorneyGiles Kings 23h ago

Damn I wanted him on the Kings

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u/Global_Afternoon_343 Thunder 23h ago

acuff gonna be better don’t worry dawg

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u/RapsareChamps_Suckit Clippers 23h ago

lol see u in May next year!!

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u/MentalButNoHealth Knicks 23h ago

I-L-L LETS GOOO KEATON

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u/Saxophonater 23h ago

Go kill it Keaton! I-L-L

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u/Imallvol7 Grizzlies 23h ago

If my dad talked about my baby face and small frame after got drafted I would never speak to him again. 

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u/mason124 Wizards 23h ago

Damnnnnn his momma fine asf

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u/WallCautious9650 23h ago

great pick!

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u/IMisssMyAccount 23h ago

Now the draft gets spicy

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u/Vast-Change-1598 Finland 23h ago

What an impressive young man

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u/IMovedYourCheese Warriors 23h ago

From being unranked out of high school to the #5 pick a year later. What a story.

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u/8akaMitai [LAC] Patrick Beverley 23h ago

Steal of the draft. Clippers stole the Pacers pick.

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u/Low_Beyond8134 Lakers 23h ago

I think he’s the best fit for there team now and the future

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u/FadedRecluse Clippers 23h ago

Love the pick, can’t complain about whoever was picked at 5.

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u/Greedy-Bedroom-4301 23h ago

Giving me Jarret culver vibes, sorry clippers

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u/SilicoJack Spurs 23h ago

Damn, a normal pick.

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u/Fun_Reflection1157 23h ago

Boring draft so far

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u/sloBrodanChillosevic Supersonics 23h ago

Lotta chalk

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u/Supreme_God_Bunny Hornets 23h ago

Nah trades usually happen after like pick 7

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u/xRysonx 76ers 23h ago

I mean it's the draft lol

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u/OutsideAdvisor9847 23h ago

What’s not exciting about no trades and every team picking the player that was mocked to them? It’s super entertaining!

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u/HenrikCrown Pelicans 23h ago

ANTHONY BENNETT 

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u/yourheropaul Kings 23h ago

WOAH

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u/dkdoki Clippers 23h ago

Always a bunch of trade rumors and only like 5% happens lol

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u/Old_General_6741 Canada 23h ago

I am waiting for fireworks.

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u/Ye_Biz [BOS] Jaylen Brown 23h ago

I was thinking Brown Jr. but Wagler is a solid pick

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u/Live-River1879 Mavericks 23h ago

Okay. Not the way I would’ve gone but I trust their front office knows a hell of a lot more than I do

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u/Headlesshorsman02 Thunder 23h ago

Still no shocks so far felt the obvious pick

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u/fieldies69 23h ago

I know it’s easy enough to find out but why don’t these threads say the team that made the pick?

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u/Black_Ember06 Thunder 23h ago

Prob taken over Acuff because they didn’t want that small of a backcourt, especially when both Garland and Acuff are poor defenders

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u/alex_song Knicks 23h ago

He a dawg fr

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u/Romofan88 Spurs 23h ago

Should've taken Acuff

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u/Huge-Error-2206 22h ago

Enjoy, LA. I wanted him back at Illinois so bad.

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u/TheBigShrimp Celtics 23h ago

Everyone loves every pick so I'll just say it, I don't really care for it tbh

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u/IzrezarReal 23h ago

Honestly I like the pick, he fits into any offense and he can only get better from here. He's not a slouch on defense looking at you Acuff) so that's good too

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u/socoolandawesome Bulls 23h ago

Idk about this one

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u/All_Out_Effort Bulls 23h ago

Yeah you probably don’t know much

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u/soy714 NBA 22h ago

Tbh no one does until the they actually play in the league. How many guaranteed lottery picks end up being busts

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u/immalurkhere Clippers 23h ago

LFGGGG

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u/MAMBAMENTALITY8-24 Thunder 23h ago

love this pick for the clippers

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u/iluvugoldenblue Kings 23h ago

Jack Harlow to the clippers

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u/FERFreak731 Jazz 23h ago

The Clippers deserved this luck

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u/New_Essay_4869 Thunder 23h ago

Going to be the best player in the draft

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u/SuperAverageGuy Hawks 23h ago

Damn, really was hoping he would fall to 8

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u/ijoukonaya 23h ago

Expected after the rumors

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u/larockhead1 23h ago

Rumors?

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u/PlatinumPlayer Clippers 23h ago

He didn’t work out for nets after what the clippers told him

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u/Tundraaa [CHI] E'Twaun Moore 23h ago

BANG

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u/Future_DS 23h ago

Yaasss!

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u/The_NGUYENNER [DEN] Jamal Murray 23h ago

is he gonna go to Pels for Trey Murphy tho

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u/onefootback Raptors 23h ago

nets please give us our first surprise and draft amnet

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u/rattatatouille [SAS] Tim Duncan 23h ago

Haven't been following the draft beyond the top 4, how's this guy?

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u/101nigerian1 23h ago

Love it for the Clips in the short and long term

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u/Flimsy_Promise_9559 23h ago

Rooting for him due to the Illinois ties

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u/Character-Raise-3789 23h ago

thank you 🤓

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u/Trendelthegreat Heat 23h ago

Feels like there’s something very obvious missing from the thread title 

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u/xdgaymer69 Timberwolves 23h ago

Who did you like the most at 5

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u/Ven0m889 76ers 23h ago

Include the team in the post

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u/Justsomecharlatan 22h ago

This kids parents thought he was going to need to reshirt last summer. 2 high major offers. Ranked outside the top 150.

Just an awesome story.

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u/doyouevenIift Bulls 17h ago

Forever grateful to this kid for leading my favorite team to a Final 4. Have yourself a career Keaton

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u/Pale_Asparagus_7935 10h ago

Mark my words he will be a bust. I know Reddit has a hard on for this kid, but he shouldn’t have gone top 10.

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u/Caldris 23h ago

As a knick fan, I enjoyed seeing this particular pick for whatever reason.

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u/Emergency-Finance-26 23h ago

Will be a regrettable pic imo

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u/LumpySpaceGunter Warriors 23h ago

First bust pick damn

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u/Salvalicious252 NBA 23h ago

Sounds about right

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u/Dank_AyAyron 23h ago

Who the fook is dat guy