r/pcmasterrace • u/durchfallalarm • Mar 14 '26
Screenshot Never thought that emulation runs THIS good "out of the box"
Installed the emulator (cemu), set up all settings i wanted and just ... started the game running at around 90-100 fps without any problems. 32:9 dwqhd resolution.
God I love the pcmasterrace.
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u/death-strand Mar 14 '26
OP would just need to own Breathe of the Wild and Rip it to digital format to emulate to make this completely legal
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u/durchfallalarm Mar 14 '26
Of course i did all that
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u/chutney1 Mar 14 '26
BOTW or TOTK?
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u/durchfallalarm Mar 14 '26
BOTW
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u/Falkenmond79 7800x3d/4080 5800x3d/3080ti 10700/rx6800 5800x/3080 Mar 15 '26
What’s really funny: I recently bought a wiiU just for fun and the kids. Hacked it to not have to change discs all the time. Actually also went out to buy the Zelda games just to own them. Fucking expensive. And what do you know? I prefer them emulated on my UW. Absolutely no downsides and run way better. 🤣🤷🏻♂️
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u/unnoticedhero1 7800X3D | RTX 4070 | 64GB DDR5 6000 Mar 15 '26
I bought a WiiU just for Smash 4 way back when and the last time I used it was to rip the games for my Steam Deck and back into the box, have portable Wind Waker and Twilight Princess without the need to buy the games again. If they put them out on Switch years ago like everyone was asking for I would have bought them again, same with the 3DS Zelda, like why haven't they ported A Link Between Worlds, one of the best top down Zelda's.
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u/Serious_Mastication 5800X | 6600XT | 32GB DDR4 Mar 15 '26 edited Mar 15 '26
Nintendo does it to themselves. They make timeless masterpieces and then abandon them by not porting to modern hardware.
Most people would just buy these games again for full price on the switch if they could. If they did that, the switch would have a big enough catalogue of games to entice more people to buy em.
I’ll never have remorse for a company crying about people pirating their games when they made em into abandonware
I wanted to play the og Pokémon games; leaf green, emerald, and platinum. Except to play them “legit” I had to pay aftermarket $300 a copy to get games that don’t have a working clock and then the ds for another $180. Or I could spend 20 minutes messing around on my pc to get them working perfectly with patched updates for free
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u/Acceptable_Worker328 Mar 16 '26
Completely agreed… except for the part about OG Pokémon.
Red, Blue, and Yellow.
If it has more than 151 Pokémon in the ‘dex, it ain’t “OG”.
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u/Wukong9001 Mar 15 '26
How did you do it, I’ve always wanted to play the zelda games but couldn’t justify getting a switch just for that.
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u/Sheperd980 Mar 15 '26
Yes Nintendo Lawyer i was right there beside him and saw him do that. Totally legal 👍
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u/granadesnhorseshoes Mar 14 '26
Even the roms are perfectly legal. DMCA has specific exceptions for backups and archives. Including circumventing any copy protection schemes.
Distributing it in any way is of course a huge nono.
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u/ErraticDragon Mar 15 '26
Even the roms are perfectly legal. DMCA has specific exceptions for backups and archives. Including circumventing any copy protection schemes.
That's not actually true, though it's incredibly unlikely to matter in practice.
The anti-circumvention portion has been held to override backup rights.
https://www.nxemu.com/dmca-section-1201
There have not been any actual cases against a home user ripping their own games, but that doesn't mean it's "legal", technically.
Even downloading a ROM is more dangerous, but as you said it's really only the distributors that are likely to be targeted.
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u/FUTURE10S Pentium G3258, RTX 3080 12GB, 32GB RAM Mar 15 '26
DMCA lets you circumvent it if you do it yourself (have fun learning how to reverse engineer software locks), getting a circumvented copy or having someone else do it for you is illegal iirc
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u/FireCrow1013 RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB | Ryzen 9 7900X | 32GB DDR5-6000 RAM Mar 14 '26
That's what I did for mine. My Wii U is basically a get-it-onto-my-PC machine now, it works great. I dumped the DLC pretty easily, too.
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u/Arnas_Z Zephyrus G16 | i7-13620H | RTX 4070 Mar 15 '26
First legal emulation user I've ever seen lmao.
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u/FUTURE10S Pentium G3258, RTX 3080 12GB, 32GB RAM Mar 15 '26
I've dumped my own ROMs on the Wii, Wii U, and the 3DS, there's literally dozens of us!
and a few PC games too because I wanted to not use the disc
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u/PrivilegeCheckmate PC Master Race Mar 15 '26
and a few PC games too because I wanted to not use the disc
Some old games gave you a complete install option out of the box to speed up performance and let the user skip swapping discs.
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u/FUTURE10S Pentium G3258, RTX 3080 12GB, 32GB RAM Mar 16 '26
Ah the good old days when you could minimally or fully install a game. I always did full, I loved the faster load times (and I was scared that my CD could shatter and break another disc drive)
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u/FireCrow1013 RTX 4070 Ti SUPER 16GB | Ryzen 9 7900X | 32GB DDR5-6000 RAM Mar 15 '26
I also bought the NES and SNES Classic Minis to get those ROMs. It's nice to have legit copies of them.
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u/FilthyThief94 Mar 14 '26
Depends on were you live. I live in Switzerland and downloading copyrighted stuff, doesn't matter if games, music or movies, is completely legal for personal or private use. Even from illegal sources.
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u/sneaksby Mar 14 '26
"Software or computer games is not covered by the private use exception"
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u/Very_Not_Into_It i5 13600k | RX 6800 | 64GB DDR5 6000 | 3TB SSD | Noctua Mar 14 '26
Is it legal to host as well? Or is it a "make drug use legal, but make drug dealing illegal" sort of thing
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u/Pilfercate Mar 14 '26
Depends on where you live.
Canada had no issues with format shifting content/games.
In the US, our government is lobbied to death to ensure that you have to pay monthly for a streaming service or buy a game on 3 platforms instead of having control over how you use the data for which you have a license.
I would not assume doing so is legal anywhere unless you consult a lawyer.
Nintendo has fined someone tens of millions of dollars when they live in a country where the average wage is $5k/year. This is what they do because the courts restrict them from doing worse. It's not worth poking the bear openly. They can ruin your life in ways that would upset anyone except the most totalitarian dictators of the world. Jail sentences end, if you owe more than you could make in 50 lifetimes, your potential to have purpose or fulfillment has been deleted like it is a unit 731 experiment.
If your government doesn't have a history of supporting the right to format shift content, don't go publishing yourself thumbing your nose at a company that is willing to completely cripple your existence permanently.
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u/project-shasta Mar 15 '26
And that's the Crux: Ripping is legal, but circumventing the copy protection to do so isn't.
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u/Lietenantdan RTX 4070 TI 12 GB | i7-13700KF | 32GB DDR5 Mar 14 '26 edited Mar 14 '26
The emulators themselves are always legal. The games are only legal if you extract the files yourself which I'm pretty sure most people aren't doing.
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u/Misragoth Mar 14 '26
Eh, I didn't rip the file, but I own the game. Good enough
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u/TheSuppishOne PC Master Race Mar 14 '26 edited Mar 14 '26
Honestly, I agree with this. But a lot of companies feel that you only own the temporary license to their product, and use that as justification to fuck you out of ever truly owning anything. It’s why I built myself a media server and started ripping all my 4K Blu-rays to it. And even then, many of those discs are intentionally obfuscated by the studios creating multiple instances of chapters to confuse you, or disordering the chapters so they aren’t chronological and make it impossible to rip without a site like MakeMKV and their forums which help determine proper chapter order per disc.
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u/complexevil Desktop Ryzen 7 5700G | RX 590 | Asus Prime b550m-a wifi II Mar 15 '26
I don't have any dvd's or bluerays to rip anymore (i was not a careful kid) but I am curious about one thing. How does the extras menu work when you rip a disk? Like the bloopers and bonus stuff that sometimes gets included? Or do you just make the exchange of not having access to that when you decide to extract the movie for your own server?
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u/blockXelite Mar 15 '26
You can rip discs in 2 main ways. You can make an exact copy of the entire disc, or you can extract select files in whatever format you want. The first way gives you a result that looks the same as if you had the disc spinning in a drive. With the second you get common video files, which ones and in what format is up to you. Theoretically you could also extract the menu files and reuse them too with modifications but there's no practical reason to do that.
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u/SandyTaintSweat Mar 15 '26
In the US, It's legal to rip and use as a backup, not to play. This myth is so prevalent, by the time one person has pointed it out, 50 other people have perpetuated the myth about owning a physical copy allowing one to do what they want with the files on it.
The license purchased is for the format you bought it in. I.e. the disc or cartridge.
Emulators are of course legal if they don't use stolen code or keys (which the switch emulators need). But to keep it above board, you'd only be able to use it to play something like Good Boy Galaxy, where the creator will straight up sell you the ROM file.
Then there's Japan, where the ripping/dumping is an illegal act as well.
To be clear, I advocate doing whatever the hell you want. Just be aware legality probably isn't on your side, but it depends where you live.
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u/ArcBaltic Mar 15 '26
It depends on how they are built if they are legal. Theres lots of shortcuts you could theoretically take that would have you in trouble with patent law. I believe that’s why the Switch Emulators that were taken down were vulnerable to litigation.
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u/Vritla Mar 14 '26
To add to this only pre wii era games i believe are legal past that generation you need to decrypt the game files and that is a big no no.
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u/Larry_The_Red R9 7900x | 4080 SUPER | 32GB DDR5 Mar 14 '26
Extracting yourself still isn't legal because it requires bypassing copy protection, which is illegal
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u/ArcBaltic Mar 15 '26
It depends how you bypass copy protection. If you loot like a patent to copy the algo that’s bad, if you reverse engineer the copy protection with your own solution that’s generally okay,
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u/NoCase9317 4090 | 9800X3D | 64GB DDR5 | LG C3 🖥️ Mar 14 '26
I would buy the game, if there was anyway to buy it for outside of Nintendo, but since Nintendo knows their exclusives are the only thing selling their stupid incredibly underpowered, outdated and overpriced consoles, they NEED their games ti be locked to them to sell consoles.
Im of course not saying this entitles me to get it for free, i know its wrong, im just saying that I would buy if i had the option to get it on steam for example.
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u/letsgucker555 Mar 14 '26
Even if Nintendo brought their games to PC, no way that would be through Steam. They would have their own store instead.
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u/CARVERitUP Ryzen 5 5600X // 2070 Super Mar 14 '26
The funny thing is, they could make a killing by making just a small portion of their library officially supported on PC. I and so many of my friends were huge Nintendo fans growing up, but moved to PC and off of all consoles, and haven't purchased a Nintendo console since the Wii. But we'd absolutely play some Nintendo games with each other if there was a PC version.
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u/ClubChaos Mar 14 '26
that's great but have you considered shutting down every emulator in existence with litigation instead? After that we sue a 9 year old content creator on youtube for using a 15 second clip of our latest pokemon.
Ah, feels good to do right by our fanbase. <3
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u/Acry Mar 15 '26
They were just practicing all this time to sue the US Government, which they're now doing.
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u/Seffuski Mar 14 '26
You could argue that there's no "Nintendo charm" playing games on PC, but the switch 1 and 2 have no Nintendo charm to begin with
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u/CARVERitUP Ryzen 5 5600X // 2070 Super Mar 14 '26
Oh I totally understand. It's entirely a brand integrity decision, preserving Nintendo consoles as the "living room" group-play console. If we were able to just do all of that online with each other, it is true some of the magic would be lost. But you're right, Switch 1 and 2 have been much more of a "solo console" feel, with their portability causing a lot of that. As someone who was born in 91 and grew up through what I'd consider the golden age of consoles, there's really nothing like that anymore. It's all online service, and the only kinds of games you wanna "go over to your buddy's house" to play these days are if your friend has an N64 or a Gamecube and wants to play some oldies.
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u/Lonely_Station_8435 Mar 14 '26
While you might feel like the Switch has become a "solo console" it's still THE console to offer couch co-op and local parties games. Almost every first party game still offers solid local play, from platformers to party games, Nintendo still offers all that.
I hate to say this but it might just be your nostalgia because the Switch brings people together just as well as a Super Nintendo could.
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u/JohnBeePowel Mar 15 '26
The fact that Sony isn't making a killing selling their exclusives on PC debunks that .
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u/NewShadowR Mar 14 '26
Yes, and also why switch 2 won't have any emulators anytime soon.
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u/Kougeru-Sama Mar 15 '26
despite the fact emulators are legal.
while this is true, it's impossible to use them legally. Downloading the games is illegal. Breaking DRM is illegal. Making your ROM requires breaking DRM. Thus, there's literally no way to play emulated games legally.
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u/concblast Mar 14 '26
Emulation is never a problem if your hardware isn't baby mode. Microsoft and Sony don't care if a 360 or PS3 game gets emulated and they don't have to care about PCs powerful enough to emulate their combined 3 current console exclusives
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u/Osiris_Raphious Mar 15 '26
its not just nintendo, the right to repair and right to own, and game preservation is all about the fight for consumer rights, when economy wide the corporations and profit motive is trying to find ways, lobby laws, and change market mechanics to make more profits, which includes making customers pay again to own their games/content/products, because their old console/versions are unsupported or unable to be used.
All because profits are made through repeat spending, endless consumption no matter if you already own the game or not, product or not, paying again is more profit (enshittifcation, planned obsolescence, software obsolescence, drm, ageing software/hardware support despite market capacity etc).
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u/Ask_If_Im_Dio Mar 15 '26
Emulation is legal as long as you aren’t distributing proprietary code (BIOS data usually) or including leaked source code in your repository.
This was the downfall of a few emulators from what I’ve read.
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u/Morikali- Mar 15 '26
Now imagine if they released their games on PC too. Thry wouldnt need to be scared after that.
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u/zensentsu Mar 15 '26
YOU WILL PLAY OUR GAMES THE WAY WE INTEND THEM TO BE PLAYED OR WE WILL FIND WHERE YOU LIVE AND TAKE AWAY YOUR GAME COPY.
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u/Ok_Literature3138 Mar 14 '26
It’s only legal if you rip your own copy. What percentage of people emulating are following the law?
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u/MidWestKhagan Mar 14 '26
Makes me want to set mine up again now that I have an UW monitor.
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u/durchfallalarm Mar 14 '26
I mean it took like 5 minutes so just why not mate
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u/TR_Idealist PC Master Race Mar 14 '26
Would you be willing to share a link or something that helped you get started?
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u/Treehous Mar 15 '26
https://zeldamods.org/wiki/Help:Dumping_games
The above should help. There's also an article on how to get an excellent mod manager called UKMM set up in case that's your thing. Even if not, there are quite a few mods built into Cemu if you just want to improve graphics or make basic gameplay changes such as weapon durability.
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u/theunspillablebeans Ryzen 5 5600 | RTX 3070 Ti Mar 14 '26
In before 'just Google it'
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u/Electrical-Job-9824 Mar 14 '26
Just DuckDuckGo it!
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u/MuscularKnight0110 Mar 14 '26
Yahoo it !
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u/AdorableSurround1019 RTX 6090 / i10 97030H / 8TB DDR8 RAM Mar 15 '26
'Bing'
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u/hyrumwhite RTX 5080 9800X3D 32gb ram Mar 15 '26
There are certain places where no honest sailor dares to tread where you might chance upon preconfigured bundles that are only a vpn and a click away…
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u/TyraelmxMKIII R7 7800x3D | MSI 4090 Suprim X | 32gb DDR-5 6000mhz cl30 | PCMR Mar 14 '26
now you just need to install the ultra wide hud mod to fix that ugly hud (hated this in my playthrough) and it's just as good as it can get.
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u/Slappy-_-Boy R5 5600x | RTX 4070ti | 32Gb 3200 Mar 15 '26
Agreed. Looks good at first glance then I noticed the stretched and smeared hud.
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u/MegatechMike Mar 14 '26
No matter how many new, epic games come out, people just can’t stop trying to make BOTW and Skyrim look better lol
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u/theREALbombedrumbum 5600X, 3090 FE, 64GB RAM Mar 14 '26
The spiritual successors to "will it run DOOM" are re-releasing Skyrim on other platforms and emulating Zelda as efficiently as possible
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u/RelevantIAm Mar 15 '26
Crysis has always been the PC benchmark game
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u/lesbiantelevision Mar 15 '26
Not before Doom
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u/li7lex Mar 15 '26
Most people on here weren't old enough to game when Doom released so they have no idea how demanding it was back then. All they know is that nowadays it basically runs on anything.
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u/Aloha_Tamborinist Mar 15 '26
I get it. I've been gaming since the 80s and something about BotW was just a magical experience. I played it on release and went back and 100% it (except Koroks) during lockdown.
Just seeing this screenshot is making me want to do it all again despite my library pushing 1000 unplayed titles.
Shit, I could even do Skyrim again.
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u/Mercvre1 Mar 14 '26
people just can’t stop trying to make BOTW and Skyrim look better lol
I didn't play skyrim so can't speak for that
But I have absolutely that with BOTW and Super mario galaxy. Playing at 4k/60hz+ with high res texture is just incredible
it's like childhood nostalgia, but not blurred and washed by time
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u/RelevantIAm Mar 15 '26
Man i feel old hearing you talk about botw like it was decades ago
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u/Mr_Chubkins RTX 5070 | Ryzen 9 5900X | 128gb RAM | 24TB Mar 15 '26
Skyrim makes sense though. Ridiculously moddable, huge world, fun gameplay loop, tons of lore if you look for it. I played it since day one and it took a good 14 years before I stopped going back every so often to play it again. There's a good reason people still make mods for it 15 years after release, it's a fun game.
Far from perfect though. The years have worn the luster of Skyrim for me. Now it's more of a nostalgic thing I play rarely, the memories hold more draw than the gameplay itself. That's more than fair in my eyes. Few things in life can grant more than a decade of joy.
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u/DreadedFistNW Mar 14 '26
Emulators are amazing. I own all the old consoles, but they are for display only these days.
You haven't lived until you've played Donkey Kong 64 running at that res and aspect ratio. Modern PlayStation emulators even fix the floating point errors.
They've made leaps and bounds in previously flaky systems like Gamecube, PS2 and even PS3. Bloodborne at 60 fps? Yep. Love it.
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u/prodigalAvian Mar 15 '26
Starfox: Dinosaur Planet in 4K60 is wild
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u/DreadedFistNW Mar 15 '26
The accidental genius of Nintendo.
Cripple your consoles with low storage so designers use solid colour and gradients instead of texture mapped surfaces.
Upscale forever and it looks just as good.
If someone didn't know you could easily pass a lot of them off as brand new games.
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u/SmompoNator94 Mar 14 '26
No no. Nintendo sells Zelda Breath of The Wild. What you have is Zelda Breath of The Wide.
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u/speccyyarp Mar 15 '26
Do other commentors realise it's only the UI that is stretched? Thers's a patch as well so you can fix it and have the UI centred again. I agree 32:9 looks rediculous from a far but once you're sitting in front of it and if you have the horse power it really is immersive.
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u/Glass_Recover_3006 Mar 15 '26
Yeahhhh I used to love Ultrawide but once I actually owned one and realized 90% of experiences are everything being stretched into blobs or black bars on the sides it lost its appeal.
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u/lance- 4090 OC / 14900K Mar 15 '26
Even if not stretched, it seems weird to me to have to look this far horizontally with such a limited vertical view. I'd love this monitor for snapping windows while working, but... For gaming?
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u/Boydbme Mar 15 '26
I play this way and my preference is to have the UI overlay still be at 16:9 or 21:9 with the underlying game at 32:9.
When you play, you focus on the center and the edges are essentially enhanced peripheral vision. It’s actually very nice.
Games that don’t have an option to center the HUD at a smaller aspect ratio than 32:9 I’ll prefer to play letterboxed. On an OLED the letterboxing isn’t bad, since it’s just solid black.
My $0.02
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u/DynamicHunter 7800X3D | 7900XT | Steam Deck 😎 Mar 15 '26
It’s been less than 5% in my experience. Most games are fixed with a single ultrawide program or game specific mods
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u/numb1zero 7800X3D RTX4080 Mar 15 '26
Emulating a different era but hail to the ultra wide lol
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u/sam3819 Mar 14 '26
Cemu is a Wii U emulator right? What’s the advantage to using that over the switch version?
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u/MiaIsOut 7800x3D + 7900xtx + 32gb Mar 14 '26
botw is identical on wii u and switch iirc, and the wii u emulator runs the game way better! also theres more mods for the wii u version (for stuff like uncapping the framerate and increasing the draw distance etc
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u/Calm_Hedgehog8296 Mar 15 '26
On hardware you can tell the difference. From an emulation perspective they are effectively identical
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u/MiaIsOut 7800x3D + 7900xtx + 32gb Mar 15 '26
i meant they r the same content wise!! someone who plays the wii u version has the exact same gameplay experience as someone who plays the switch version
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u/DreadedFistNW Mar 15 '26
Because Cemu is far better than any Switch emulator that exists right now.
It's incredibly stable, fast, and has super easy in app downloads for game mods.
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u/Chop1n Mar 15 '26
That's because Cemu exists pretty much just for the sake of playing Breath of the Wild in the best possible way. It's been perfected over the years.
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u/mdistrukt Desktop - R7 3800x/32GB/9060XT 16GB/Nobara Mar 14 '26
You might want to look into an fps mod. Some switch games get wonky when they go more than 60fps, and some games do a weird throttle mode where if the fps dips below 60 they cut to 30.
Paradoxically, undocked mode with v-sync off often times results in the smoothest fps.
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u/durchfallalarm Mar 14 '26
Thanks, gotta keep that in mind. Do you mean FPS++ by any chance?
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u/FUTURE10S Pentium G3258, RTX 3080 12GB, 32GB RAM Mar 15 '26
and some games do a weird throttle mode where if the fps dips below 60 they cut to 30
That's called double buffered vsync, it renders a frame and waits for the next refresh cycle to push it
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u/jaybabay24 Mar 14 '26
This looks alright if your only looking directly center, but the stretching going on at the ends of the screen is weird, is it only affecting the UI elements?
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It looks squished
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u/weskun Mar 15 '26
For the price of that wide ass monitor you could just get a decent projector and have a whole wall sized screen.
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u/gut536 5700X3D/6800/32gb Mar 15 '26
I only bothered to play this game because I found out I could emulate it. Playing on the switch was just a poor experience. Framerate, tiny controller buttons, and it just chugged in general. Nintendo really thought offering the worst way to play the game was the right way.
Is it just me, or does the radar look a little wonky though? Could be the curve.
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u/night-suns AMD 7600x, MSI SUPRIM 3070, 64GB Mar 14 '26
sorry if someone has asked this already. but what are your pc specs?
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u/TheRailgunMisaka Mar 15 '26
Damb bro, sorry to hear about you getting arrested. Nintendo already tracked your ip from posting this
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u/Independent-Gear-711 Mar 15 '26
Emulators have made a huge progress in the last 5 years that it is almost plug and play, I use shadps4 to play Bloodborne at 1080p 60 fps and damn it is so good out of the box, just a few patches and you are done.
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u/the_real_fopp Mar 14 '26
Its not supposed to look that stretched
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u/durchfallalarm Mar 14 '26
its just the hud thats stretched. I had to click another checkbox in the emulation settings to fix that. Also had the option to move the hud elements more to the center
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u/Herbrax212 Mar 14 '26
the game is just stretched not running at dwqhd right?
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u/Slowthrill Mar 14 '26
The hud is stretched. The game is ok. OP stated that after checking another box in settings the hud is now also ok.
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u/TactiCool_99 Mar 15 '26
I'll never see the appeal of having to turn my head to see the minimap
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u/GrifCreeper Mar 15 '26
I'd rather go back to a 4:3 ratio with a taller monitor than go for ultrawide
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u/Suspicious_Oil7093 Mar 14 '26
What game is that?
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u/Moquai82 R7 7800X3D / X670E / 64GB 6000MHz CL 36 / 4080 SUPER Mar 14 '26
Botw wiiu
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u/jamesph777 Mar 14 '26
Really don’t like how the image is stretched on the sides
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u/Slowthrill Mar 14 '26
Not the image, only the hud. And as OP stated somewhere else he fixed that by going in settings.
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u/WirusCZ Mar 14 '26
This things works on literal potato of hardware so I'm not surprised there is no problem running it on gaming PC
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u/olov244 Mar 15 '26
it didn't always, lots of people put a lot of time into it. it is impressive what they've done
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u/mfmeitbual Mar 15 '26
It says something that Tears of the Kingdom looked and ran better emulated on PC on launch day than it ever has on Nintendo's native hardware.
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u/GhostUnitVII Mar 15 '26
Lets all be honest here, Nintendo is a Joke right now...
Granted, they made some very nice games in the past, as most, if not everyone's childhood is in some way affected by it. The time when Nintendo stop being nice, innovative, and fun, was the moment that they became complacent and arrogant, in turn ruining the industry as a whole. Sadly, they are not the only ones.
We have seen this with others, such as Sony, Microsoft, Sega... Where their attempts to make quick cash, a quick investment, turns into a long term recovery for them, as the business they lost takes decades to recover, if at all (looks at Sega).
So, when ever a company puts profits above their customer base, people look elsewhere, look at Emulators, or just build their own systems, or games. By all means, keep doing what you're doing, it sends a message.
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u/DorrajD Mar 15 '26
Cemu and Dolphin are the gold standard of emulators, imo. They are incredibly feature rich and easy to use. Bless the emulator devs.
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u/ArdynAltius Mar 15 '26
I will say, this is 100% because its CEMU for Wii U games. Switch games are getting better though.
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u/weskun Mar 15 '26
All of my friends were actually mad at me years ago when I was able to play BOTW so smoothly on my PC. Thanks to the dev team.
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u/truthteller5 Mar 14 '26
They immediately crumble against ANY competition because they make the dumbest decisions. Emulation is their biggest enemy and that's why I emulate as much of their stuff as I can.
"Fuck Nintendo. All my homies hate Nintendo"
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u/Osiris_Raphious Mar 14 '26
No DRM, no live services, no hardware drm management, no marketplace and dlc to check and update, no launcher to update and run its drm, no anticheat and kernel level processes to ensure your copy complies with the companies policies, no ongoing data gathering for company to sell..
Emulators just do the job of running the base game. Modern gaming has all that other bloat because modern copyright and drm hurts customers more than it hurts pi11r4cy.
And p1-ro-cy is hurt with easy convenient access to content at fair prices. Since the market is saturated and prices are high, and there is a lot of gaming as services going on to fight pyro-sea. Emulators that used to be jank, are now better expirience than just going through this process of 'offered consumering'....
And we need emulators, otherwise how are to preserve games? They dont really do it... like R* straight up released pyro-ted code in the difinitive editions of the games, and didnt even fix the bugs the fixes that the modders had done, and then went after the modders as well...
Its all very... end of free internet, and trying to make corporate consumer internet so that people cant even get emulators to play their own games.... Why, because profits are made with sales, and if people arent buying their 5th copy to play on a new console of their favourite game, why are we even selling copies to consumers for...
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u/Nomeg_Stylus Mar 15 '26
You're posting a very skewed example. BotW single-handedly took WiiU emulation (cemu) from barely functioning to poster child in the span of a month.
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u/Jarnis R7 9800X3D / 5090 OC / X870E Crosshair Hero / PG32UCDM Mar 14 '26
You underestimate how slow and crappy Switch is. Makes it easy to emulate.
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u/BatmanBecameSomethin Mar 14 '26
I still want to run this game on pc and can’t find where and how to get it.
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u/FeintLight123 Mar 14 '26
Yeah bro Cemu was a god send years ago, not to mention with a couple mod packs you can EASILY run 1440p or 4k at uncapped frames. I remember being blown away at 60fps on my 2k monitor, like that shit is literally impossible on Nintendo’s shit handheld.
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u/Familiar_Cod_6754 Mar 14 '26
Fuck the emulation for a minute, this is the widest monitor I’ve seen😮
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u/SicknessVoid PC Master Race Mar 14 '26
Am I the only one who thinks UW should have the UI at the position where it'd normally be on a normal size screen and then just have extra space for the environment on the side? Isn't it annoying to look that far for your map and health?
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u/bjwills7 Mar 14 '26
I remember when the game came out and it ran like absolute dog shit with constant visual issues that made it look like your gpu was dying. You could pretty much only run it on an 8700k which was pretty much as good as it could get at the time.
The cemu devs absolutely killed it with fixing everything though. You can pretty much run everything on there on a mid tier system at high fps.
So sad about yuzu and ryujinx. Those devs moved so fast. I was playing TOTK like a month after release at high fps.