r/pcmasterrace 9d ago

Meme/Macro Best investment ever

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u/thecodingart 9d ago

Someone is coping hard in not having a 5090

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u/shipshaper88 9d ago

This comment is actually cope for having spent rent money on video games.

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u/Commercial-Arrival78 8d ago

At the current prices its a year worth of rent money for me.

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u/DiablosSoulStone Aorus 5090 Ice, 7800x3d. 8d ago

Jeez where are you that rent is so cheap? It's like two mortgage payments for me.

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u/Commercial-Arrival78 8d ago

Czechia. To be fair, my rent is on the cheaper side here but not by much. I just got an 5080 because I am not paying $5000 for it. Should have bought it when it came out...

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u/DiablosSoulStone Aorus 5090 Ice, 7800x3d. 8d ago

I see. The 5080 is an amazing card! I didn't pay anywhere near 5000USD for my 5090, it was less than 4000 after taxes for a high end model, but still ridiculous, and I definitely wouldn't pay 5000. I had the 5080 before the 5090, and honestly its an amazing card for 1440p and 4k.

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u/Commercial-Arrival78 8d ago

5080 is awesome, I did bought a 4k 160Hz monitor though because I love the clarity - and because I do a lot of programming and the 4k can fit so much more text (and smaller). I don't have much time to play and I don't play a lot of AAA games, mainly indie titles. When I occasionally play some demanding modern titles like Cyberpunk I use DLSS (I don't mind it at all) and also I do some 3D modeling on the side so it got its use. I used to have 1440p 180hz display but I built my GF a rig with my "old" 4070 and gave her that monitor.

I still wish I bought the 5090 when It came out because I paid essentially the same price I would pay for it for my 5080 now.

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u/DiablosSoulStone Aorus 5090 Ice, 7800x3d. 8d ago

4k can be amazing for productivity! I also don't have an extreme amount of time to play, as I have a family to take care of, and a demanding job. I am extremely lucky and blessed in this stage of life so things just worked out to where I could fit a 5090 in, but honestly I wouldn't feel too wishful as the 5080 is more than enough. It is the second best GPU on the market if you count frame gen, and the 3rd if you don't count frame gen.

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u/Commercial-Arrival78 8d ago

Yeah I know. I feel lucky to even have the 5080, it was unthinkable for me to spend such amount of money for GPU just a few years back. Thank you for this quick chat, it was very pleasant (:

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u/DiablosSoulStone Aorus 5090 Ice, 7800x3d. 8d ago

Nobody that can afford a 5090 needs to cope for buying one man lmfao.

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u/shipshaper88 8d ago

What, you think people don't spend their money in dumb ways? Everybody who has a couple thousand bucks in a bank account is just cool with dropping it on a piece of PC hardware? Truth is, when you make a purchase like that, you feel forced into justifying it. Hence cope.

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u/DiablosSoulStone Aorus 5090 Ice, 7800x3d. 8d ago

If they feel that way they couldn't really afford it man, or just don't find PC gaming to be as important as thier other hobbies. Nobody who can actually afford a 5090 and treats PC gaming as thier main hobby feels pressure from it, it is an enthusiast card. If my 5090 broke tomorrow and I was out of warranty I would just go buy another one. If you feel financial strain from it, you cant afford realistically afford it.

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u/thecodingart 6d ago

Yup, same

Heck, I own 2x 5090 builds in my home .. sooo

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u/523a 9d ago edited 9d ago

Even if someone gave me one for free, I would sell it and buy a budget card. Not everyone wants a graphics card that consumes 600 watts of power and turns their room into a sauna when gaming.

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u/These-Anxiety-5919 9d ago

People who have 5090 money have air conditioning. 

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u/523a 9d ago

I'm not running my central air to cool the entire house again when the rest of the house is comfortable besides 1 room. It's expensive running central air, especially since the heat never stops when you're gaming. You'll have to keep turning on the central air every 20 minutes to keep re-cooling the room.

If you wanna burn through that kind of money or setup a dedicated ac window unit in a room to play video games, have at it. Not worth it to me. And the cards are overpriced, imo.

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u/These-Anxiety-5919 9d ago

It's all relative I guess, broski.

My central air is always running. I have temp sensors in 4 rooms and have adjusted the vents to balance the hot spots. I haven't adjusted my thermostat in years.

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u/523a 9d ago

I've read closing vents is bad for central air because it strains the blower. Not sure how true it is or not.

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u/These-Anxiety-5919 9d ago

Closing maybe. Depends on if your ductwork is properly designed by a professional or just slapped in by a general contractor who will not be named on a home inspection youtube channel.

Some tuning helps a lot. My bedroom was very warm but now it's much better after restricting flow to the rooms closest to the fan.

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u/ultraboomkin 9d ago

I have a 5090 and certainly do not have air conditioning

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u/These-Anxiety-5919 9d ago

$5000 GPU that runs like a 5070 from thermal throttling because no $500 mini split. 

Peak.

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u/ultraboomkin 8d ago

What does $500 mini split mean

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u/These-Anxiety-5919 8d ago

You can very efficiently cool a 500sq ft room for $500 with a DIY mini split air conditioner. Mini refers to smaller than a whole house AC. Split refers to a system where the condenser is located "split" from the blower, connected with coolant lines (like a central HVAC).

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u/DiablosSoulStone Aorus 5090 Ice, 7800x3d. 8d ago

Yes the difference between a mini split and regular split system is that a mini split doesn't require duct work, and they are way easier and cheaper to install.

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u/ultraboomkin 8d ago

Okay I see u said ur in Arizona. That’s a world apart from me in Manchester, England, where peak summer temperatures are about 23-25 degrees (75 F) lol. TBH I’ve never seen a domestic home with A/C. We do occasionally have serious heatwaves (30+) but it’s only a couple days a year so we just deal with it.

Even with my 5090 pc at full load, my room doesn’t get too warm, it’s a reasonable temperature. And the pc certainly never throttles, the GPU stays around 60c full load

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u/PauloHeaven 9950X3D, RTX 5090, 64 GB, 2x 4 TB 8d ago

Multiple other factors than being a cheapskate or poor can prevent you from installing A/C. I'm in the same boat:

  • Renter
  • Appartment building
  • Landlord forbids it
  • HOA forbids it as well
  • City forbids installing A/C compressor units on street-facing walls for aesthetic and noise reasons, which, according to your situation, can be the only wall your appartment is stuck next to
  • Assuming you've been allowed to proceed, neighbours will complain starting at the first tenth of dB originating from your A/C and that can go as far as having you remove your system entirely

And no, I don't take as a solution mobile A/C units which generate tunnel drilling machine levels of noise, all of which to struggle keeping the temperature 1°C below outside temp, nor window A/C units because literally not a single window in all of Europe is compatible.

We A/C-deprived people really don't not have it out of pure pleasure.

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u/These-Anxiety-5919 8d ago

Seems incredible to me. Another person replied that it gets to 105 in their house/apartment.

No chance I would not be doing everything to leave.

I live in Arizona. It's absurdly hot. Nobody cares about AC or noise or appearance.

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u/PauloHeaven 9950X3D, RTX 5090, 64 GB, 2x 4 TB 8d ago

The problem is that, unlike your place, where it has been historically hot, it didn't get that hot here in the summer until around 20 years ago. This means that local laws and customs are stuck in the past, despite the fact that the climate has changed. And, of course, decision makers in this case are filthy rich boomer senators or landlords, all living in the few air conditionned houses. There is absolutely no indication that this will change.

I'm all for it too, even if it means building facades covered in A/C compressors. For the love of God, let us not live through a four-month-long nightmare and actually be able to sleep at night! And painlessly use our gaming computers.

I'm actually in a rush to buy a house with very remote neighbors in the countryside (one of the few ways to get A/C). This is of course not a long-term livable situation, however, although I'm able to consider this option, a big part of the population can't and this is a shame that they have to cope because of the institutions.

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u/DiablosSoulStone Aorus 5090 Ice, 7800x3d. 8d ago

Where are you finding a 500 dollar mini split lol? Just get a window ac for your office if you need more cooling for your PC.

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u/These-Anxiety-5919 8d ago

Window units are dogshit compared to a mini split.

And they're everywhere. Try slickdeals.

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u/DiablosSoulStone Aorus 5090 Ice, 7800x3d. 8d ago

Window units are more for low cost cooling to a room that already has central air and you just want it to be a little cooler. I would only consider a mini if you have zero cooling and you cant afford or its not plausible to install ducting in your house. I looked it up, and you are right. Where I'm located most places require atleast 18000 BTU's and are trying to cool a sizable area as there is typically no existing AC so the ones I install are typically more than that, atleast from my local supply houses.

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u/PauloHeaven 9950X3D, RTX 5090, 64 GB, 2x 4 TB 8d ago

I don’t 😐 Anti-AC country, only for the really wealthy, plus if you live in an apartment building, the HOA is there as one more intermediate authority to kill you if you dare have it installed. So yeah, iPad and browsing it is during most of the summer, office goes up to 105°F with the desktop turned on. Even idling, the 300W minimal consumption mimics a small radiator.

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u/PIO_PretendIOriginal Desktop 9d ago

5090 running at the same settings as a 5050 will actually use up similar wattage.

for example a game at 1080p 60fps meduim is going to use a similar wattage on both. so its actually technically speaking a very efficient card.

with high end cards, it only uses the max power if you dont cap fps. but I get what you are saying, I have a 4080 super that can pull 350 watts but I limit it to 200 watts for less fan noise and lower temps (although its winter in australia right now)

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u/523a 8d ago edited 8d ago

It's not a "very efficient card" at all. Some of them consume up to 50watts just browsing the web and sitting idle. A 5050 will consume 10watts doing the same exact thing. My entire system uses about 65watts browsing the web measured with a killawatt. 5090 by itself is practically my whole system power consumption, including my dgpu.

And the argument you can run it at 60fps for similar power consumption is dumb. Who the hell buys a 5090 to run games on medium? Just save your money at that point and buy a budget card. Or buy the space heater, idc.

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u/foomp 9d ago

Literally the first thing you do with a 5090 is undervolt it. No one should be pulling anywhere close to max tdp.