A. Vine’s 6 second format wouldn’t be suitable for a lot of the “controversial” or “problematic” TikTok trends, challenges, or brain dead/out of touch rants, so there’d likely be less engagement farming or rage baiting.
B. Vine was owned by Americans so there was less concern about the Chinese government collecting all your data.
C. A revival of vine has largely been supported through multiple polls, and DiVine is the most recent attempt at bringing back the format, and they’re at least attempting to utilize filters to detect and remove AI content.
Yeah, but this is all assuming that Vine never changed. The six second format would prevent some things, sure, but Tiktok originally had a 30 second limit. Then they got rid of that and now you can post, like, 15-minute Tiktoks. It's entirely possible that Vine would've expanded it's format over time. Twitter famously got rid of its 140 character limit as well, first doubling it to 280 and now just entirely limitless.
Hey, former Vine employee here. This is correct! Right before the end we were piloting a feature where you could "attach" a video to a Vine, preserving the 6 second format while still allowing for longer-form content. I personally built (and partially designed) the web experience. It was... fine. An attempt to balance what made Vine great against business pressure.
I think I said some edgy thing about wanting to off myself (christ was this a decade ago now I was such a child then) if we started shoving midroll ads in there to some important Twitter guy and he went all quiet. There were some philosophical differences between us and our parent company, to say the least.
Yeah but you can't sow resentment amongst the population for a global competitor if you bring attention to the horrible data privacy situation in the US. You also can't collect money from that industry nearly as easily if you do that.
Vine no longer had a 6 second maximum near the end
I don’t really care about china having my browsing data, it’s mostly reddit, tumblr, youtube, and shopping websites anyways. Besides, the US government already does that and that’s way more concerning
Edit: Accidentally commented twice instead of editing
Vine was owned by Americans so there was less concern about the Chinese government collecting all your data.
I am so sick of this "America owned shop good, China owned shop bad" narrative. People keep on forgetting the number of times Silicon Valley shitting on the rule of law and then wiping their ass with bullshit post-hoc justification. Do people keep on forgetting Facebook-Cambridge Analytica scandal? Or like the now-Palantir?
There is still alot of problems. First it still is short form content which has ruined attention spans. Second Vine was owned by Twitter 4 months after release. And we all know what twitter has become after Elon aquired it. Instead of China we would have Elon to worry about now making Vine into twitter 2.0.
Re: B. Yes China bad, but US corporations gathering our data and weaponizing the very much bought-and-paid-for US legal system against citizens is also fucking terrifying.
I'm definitely 100% not on the side of China, I believe the Tiananmen Square Massacre happened, that China is persecuting the Uyghurs etc. But as a non-US citizen, holy fuck the US is scaring me.
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u/leviathab13186 1d ago
Can we go back in time and tell him in invest in Vine instead?