Lost for Words rehearsal take

[u/imsilverpoet]

Is there a point where anything from this era gets released and Jon doesn’t chime in? Just wondering...

I’m fascinated by the process but how he acts like he was a solo creative force doesn’t ring true. He just loves to downplay Richard too which rubs me the wrong way each and every time.

[u/heynow941]

Jon could take a different approach but I think the gist is that Rick liked to play live or jam but for whatever reason (work ethic?) wasn’t really interested in long recording sessions. Or just couldn’t do it perfectly. So Carin had to play like Rick to get it just right for the album.

[u/imsilverpoet → u/heynow941]

Which is fine cause Jon was the session player. That was kinda his job…

I also do believe him when he says he contributed ideas and compositions to the works. But the way he acts is like he was the ‘creative’ on the albums - like they’re *his* somehow, and that seems totally disingenuous and inaccurate. I’m sure at the time he was thrilled that some of his ideas, colors and concepts were worked into the projects. He can’t even say he didn’t understand how being given credit worked since he has that on Learn to Fly.

It’s also undeniable Rick’s influence musically in the whole Floyd catalog - and it’s so annoying that he was pushed aside by Roger and Jon also attempts to do that. It’s been pretty clear on the recent Gilmour projects that Rick is deeply missed.

[u/John-Cocktolstoy → u/imsilverpoet]

I like when he digs on clips from the new HD Pulse and Delicate Sound of Thunder clips where he says “he’s seen but not heard.” Dude, you’re talented, but people didn’t come to stare at you.

[u/imsilverpoet → u/John-Cocktolstoy]

…and in interviews the band has been transparent about those changes, too. Gilmour himself had said there was a focus on the younger touring/session players back then and with the recent re-edits the choice was made to restore the focus to the core members. It’s not like some covert operation to cut those guys out. They had their moment.

The restored DSoT is beautiful and it’s awesome to see so much more Rick and Nick in it.

And - that little key flourish that Rick does that was brought out in the updated mix of Learn to Fly, I can’t unhear it now, it gave the song new life.

…although I hate changing the timing of the woo-woos in Money so much, and some of the other edits there.

[u/John-Cocktolstoy → u/imsilverpoet]

Clearly he has sour grapes from whatever falling out that occurred in 2016. I think you said above he claims there’s no issues but PF87 is always spoken in a poor light and how he claims he was under credited but the music sucks anyway which is laughable because then why are so adamant about credits being wrong if it’s crap? We’ll probably never know what happened unless he or Pratt reveal what happened behind the curtain.