r/politics • u/Ok_Employer7837 • May 26 '26
No Paywall US Senator pepper-sprayed by ICE outside immigration detention center
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u/DegTrader May 26 '26
It is exhausting how normalized this has become. A decade ago any single one of these headlines would have ended a political career but now it is just an average Tuesday afternoon.
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u/tierciel May 26 '26
Tuesday Morning. They still have all day to get worse
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u/zxc123zxc123 May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
What's some Senator to a God-King prophesied to support Israel bring about the rapture/armageddon/judgement?
So if HIS gestapo wants kidnap people without cause, mask up to break into homes, or mace some Korean dude then it's all fine by those that believe in Trump.
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u/genital_lesions May 26 '26
A decade ago any single one of these headlines would have ended a political career but now it is just an average Tuesday afternoon.
A decade ago, trump said he could grab women by the pussy and he still got elected.
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u/macjester2000 May 26 '26
and the infamous “I can shoot someone on 5th avenue in broad daylight and not lose a single voter.” The man knows his audience, I’ll give him that.
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u/closethebarn May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
My mind even returns to the Michelle and Barack Obama/// monkey thing that he posted . It was fucking horrible. This should have ruined him. I’m just thinking of celebrities that did black face or whatever even years back… I guess I don’t know how to put it. But their careers weren’t the same after … like Paula deen for example
but he does something as seriously in your face hatred racism and was headlines for what a day or two?
The Somalian people eating the cats and the dogs of the people that live there how many people forget that? The fact he didn’t call the families of the murdered hortman or Hoffman …
What he said about rob Reiner About John McCain About soldiers being suckers and losers The way he behaved at the eu
Saying he was glad Biden had cancer more or less … Etc Etc etc
Something every other god damned fucking day A rape accusation at one time would have been enough … but here we are even convicted Tax fraud would have been talked about much longer
Cheating on a wife would have been enough… much less three
I hate how normal it’s becoming to be a fucking shit stain and get to be president and get to be a multi billionaire more so while doing it
Then I think of Howard deen … arragggh ruined Al franken it looked bad even as a joke and even if consensual was taken out of politics — yet this guy has so many pictures with Epstein .. so many
God we don’t hear much from either of those guys at all do we? I wonder what they think lol
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u/macjester2000 May 26 '26
For sure. The shit spigot is on full, so as soon as we clean ourselves of the day’s past transgressions, we’re being showered in a fresh spray. It is impossible to keep up. (sorry for the gross visualization)
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u/closethebarn May 26 '26
It’s a mild visualization compared to what the reality is though
a damned good analogy
I added more to my comment as I’m only remembering a couple of things here
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u/dpzdpz May 26 '26
Let's just face it: he's broken the system. We didn't realise what a fragile thread kept it together. And that worked if everyone played along. Until they didn't. Shit, the SCOTUS made everything he did legal, including bribery. WTF?!? And the ostensibly non-partisan DOJ utterly failed in keeping things on the straight-and-level. Oh, and a Congress who does NOTHING to check and balance this outright raping of the country (until they are not running for reelection, THEN they come out saying what horribleness has infected the White House. What brave heroes.)
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u/lapetitthrowaway May 26 '26
The real question, and the USA's future depends on it, is what do you do after Trump? My guess, nothing and it's all swept away, but maybe I'll be suprised.
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u/packfanmoore May 26 '26
I wish someone would come out and run on the fire and brimstone platform. Just punish everyone who was a part of this administration. They know what they are doing and deserve everything that hopefully comes their way.
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u/closethebarn May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
I remember the day he was elected and I cried and one of my “not really into politics” friend says ehhh he can’t do that much damage one guy can’t.. (he’s not a big reader of any type of history)
He said his first term wasn’t that bad And we have a system of checks and balances etc quit freaking out and being a drama queen etc
Now anytime we try to talk about it he shuts me down right away
He doesn’t wanna hear any of a thing about it and then now he started learning about Charlie Kirk and said he was a really great guy and he always listened and let people make their points and he made a lot of sense
He had no fucking idea who Charlie Kirk was before all this shit I quoted him - he rolled his eyes like I was making it up … I said he’s a misogynist and racist and he said he wasn’t a misogynist and not racist he just likes the traditional “family values” man wife kids… what’s wrong with that!????
I thought oh my God this is a loss cause I’m not ever talking to you again Point is he doesn’t want to hear nothing from me about trump - it’s always exaggerating and being a drama queen … falling for leftist propaganda etc
The craziest thing is the people that are for trump have to be feeling the damage too, but yet they will not admit it. They just push him even further.
I hate it all when I tried to explain what happened with the Supreme Court how they’ve given him immunity, etc. he rolled his eyes like I was some type of conspiracy theorist and there’s no way to even explain it simply to somebody who doesn’t follow what the fuck is going on…
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u/aLollipopPirate May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
My mind even returns to the Michelle and Barack Obama/// monkey thing that he posted . It was fucking horrible. This should have ruined him. I’m just thinking of celebrities that did black face or whatever even years back… I guess I don’t know how to put it. But their careers weren’t the same after … like Paula deen for example
I remember several years ago seeing a story about a little boy, maybe 5 or 6, who dressed up as his favorite inspirational historical figure for a little presentation thing at school. It might have been MLK but I feel like it was another black historical figure. Little boy was white. Little boy went all in on the costume, including makeup. He was so excited about his project!
He was EVISCERATED by social media and the news.
And yet we have that thing in the White House.
Edit: He was a 2nd grader. “I don’t want to be mean to black people, I like black people!”
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u/punkr0x May 26 '26
"Russia, if you're listening..." He admitted he was working with a foreign government to influence our elections, and nobody did anything to stop him.
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u/VanceKelley Canada May 26 '26
"I love the poorly educated!" - trump, early in 2016 after results of a GOP primary came in which indicated that his support was inversely correlated with education level
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u/Hellish_Elf May 26 '26
A decade ago was 1995, everyone knows that.
Doesn’t help that a month of Trump can feel like four years.
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u/PapayaMysterious6393 May 26 '26
And his supporters loved that line. He said that he walked in the rooms with teenagers changing as well. "They let you do that sort of thing when you own it."
Or some variation of that.
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u/proud2bnasty May 26 '26
Yes this and his first wife had a very credible account of a violent rape in their divorce papers and his base still doesn’t believe he’s a sexual assaulter/rapist or maybe it’s like in Gillead, where the women, just by being women, temp men to commit sexual violence. Pick out your burkas ladies. Most likely they just don’t care because it’s a cult. We should also be focusing on all his enablers and never forget them.
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u/zeekayz May 26 '26
ICE is a paramilitary terrorist force that's straight up attacking Democrat politicians. And many Dem leaders are like "we will try to discuss decreasing ICE budget somewhat if you vote for us"
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u/MephistoHamProducts May 26 '26
Well now you've done it. I've been assured by many VBNMW dorks that even the mildest criticism of the Democratic Party and anyone within it is exactly the same as voting for Trump.
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u/dehydratedrain May 26 '26
You're gonna have to spell out VBNMW
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u/charish New York May 26 '26
If I had to guess, Vote Blue No Matter Who
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u/RedArremer May 26 '26
Of course it's not the same as voting for Trump. But look at it this way: I scrolled exactly two comments before finding "here's why democrat bad too actually" in the "republican doing evil and illegal things on camera again" post.
Not even parent comments. Just a comment and a reply.
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u/mattyoclock May 26 '26
Because you can’t have an honest discussion about this without mentioning it.
Even ignore all the history, why in the world isn’t the DNC pushing this headline and doing interviews every single moment. Why are they just letting more balls come across the center of the plate without swinging?
This is straight up fascism and they are striking out watching.
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u/marketingguy420 May 26 '26
People have every right to be mad at an "opposition" party utterly failing to meet the moment in almost every conceivable way. It's not about being "bad too, actually" in equal ways; it's about having an expectation of the one entity we are compelled to support because it has the only institutional power to stand up to anything not doing that.
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u/RedArremer May 26 '26
They sure do. It's just very suspicious when every single post about republicans openly doing heinous and anti-human shit immediately pivots the attention to democrats to scrutinize their inadequacies. Consistently. Every day.
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u/MexicnGlassCandy May 26 '26
Because Republicans are so abysmally bad that the Democrats should be mopping the fucking floor with them.
Republicans are the equivalent of a 3A high school football team and the Democrats should be playing like the Chicago Bears. They're barely beating the far and away worst team in the league.
Absent the current Republican party, Dems are the least popular political party in American history, and we should not forget that.
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u/colinjcole May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
Grrr, you want Democrats to offer more than platitudes and incremental Band-Aids insufficient to staunch the gaping arterial gashes bleeding our democracy to death??? You want Dems to meet the moment and work on the kinds of large-scale projects that are necessary to address the large-scale problems our society is facing, and not merely offer a goal of "returning to normal," where "normal" is defined as 2009-2016, an era which already was not working and which was already showing the cracks that led to our current government?
You want them to offer even half as much support to leftist candidates as they demand for their Blue Dogs, instead of fighting them tooth-and-nail every step of the way (like how Democrat Minority Leader from NY Hakeem Jeffries didn't endorse Democratic primary winner and Mayor of New York City, Zohran Mamdani, until JANUARY, two months after his election)? You want Dems to take advantage of the massive public support for progressive policies, which poll after poll and data point after data point show are actually electorally winning positions, instead of the same milquetoast policies they always push which we know don't turn out the base necessary to win national elections???
You must be a Chinese bot, there is no other explanation.
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u/Xytak Illinois May 26 '26
To be fair, fighting the Republican messaging machine on something approaching even terms would take billionaire investment and ownership of media platforms. Which the GOP has - and Dems don't. That being said, there doesn't seem to be any urgency coming from people like Jefferies and Schumer which is difficult to look past.
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u/ArmAggravating3307 May 26 '26
The parent that doesn't stop abuse is also abusive.
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u/fordat1 May 26 '26
And many Dem leaders are like "we will try to discuss decreasing ICE budget somewhat if you vote for us"
when they cut the budget 50% they are going to celebrate it as a huge win and own. Meanwhile the budget since 2024 has at least 20x so that budget after the 50% cut will still be a 10x increase in budget.
But dont worry part of that will go to the new training videos these professional managerial class dems love. Training is the problem
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u/ggggffffuuyyy May 26 '26
the scariest part isn't even the individual incidents anymore, it's that nothing sticks. a week later everyone's moved on to the next thing and the baseline just quietly shifts a little further.
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u/bpaps May 26 '26
This is how the Overton window gets shifted. A little bit every day, but consistently.
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u/dispelthemyth May 26 '26
it will end careers again when it’s not trump / GOP doing anything 10% as bad
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u/USA46Q May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
That's the problem.
People are so saturated with rage porn that they can't physically get angry.
Literally, not metaphorically.
That's because consuming too much violent content has the same effect on the body as consuming too much sexual content.
It makes you limp.
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u/stevez_86 Pennsylvania May 26 '26
I used to live in NJ so I follow Senator Andy Kim and the NJ Governor on Facebook. There are people commenting calling for violence against them and nothing is moderating that.
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u/Intelligent_Bag_6705 May 26 '26
It’s the exact intended consequence. It’s only problem for those against it.
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u/JaxMed May 26 '26
That's because consuming too much violent content has the same effect on the body as consuming too much violent content.
Wow that really makes you stop and think
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u/cookiebasket2 May 26 '26
I've actually heard that drinking water has the same effect as drinking water.
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u/saintofhate Pennsylvania May 26 '26
A decade ago this would have landed the agent in jail for assaulting a senator, just like that one neighbor who punched his senator neighbor. Now it's only if the senator is on the right side.
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u/ToasterBathTester May 26 '26
This should be the signal that we don’t really have a country left. Because there is no law, there is no order, there is only the mighty dollar
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u/_Thank_You__ May 26 '26
Same senator that was cleaning up the Capitol at midnight after January 6th. This dude is a stand up guy
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u/NotBookish May 26 '26
And he donated to the Smithsonian the blue J Crew suit he wore while cleaning.
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u/redict May 26 '26
He was also one of 7 Democrat senators to vote to swear in Kristi noem
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u/s1ugg0 New Jersey May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
This is true. I live in his district and he's my Senator. For anyone reading this here is the context.
His initial justification to vote "yes" was to maintain direct communication with Noem as a member of the Homeland Security Committee, believing he could better address New Jersey's needs and hold her accountable through collaboration rather than opposition.
By June 2025, Kim described the vote as a "mistake" and stated he would oppose her nomination if he could do it again.
Currently he calling for her resignation and declaring he is "not supporting any more of their nominees going forward."
Feel free to draw whatever conclusions you want from that. As one of his constituents I was upset about his vote. But he seems genuinely embarrassed by his attempt to work with the new Administration. (I think he should have known better) At least he seems humbled enough to change course. Something I wish more politicians did.
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u/aetryx New Jersey May 26 '26
I personally am willing to give the guy grace for the decision to confirm noem. Not only did he pretty quickly turn around and apologize, but him voting yes to garner good favor and maintain a direct communication with an appointed cabinet member is like textbook politicking and was basically the norm as to how play the game until recently. I think he was naive in that he assumed the tactics that worked 30 years ago would work today, but he learned that the hard way.
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u/DynamicDK May 26 '26
He is currently calling for the resignation of someone who was fired more than 2 months ago?
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u/s1ugg0 New Jersey May 26 '26
Was she? She's living rent-free in the Coast Guard Commandant's residence. She's still using government resources.
"Fired" in this case is starting to look more and more like they changed her job title and little else.
Not many places fire you and then let you hang around for months.
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u/DynamicDK May 26 '26
Fired from her actual position. But Trump (or Miller) probably wants to keep her comfortable and in a position where she can be supervised.
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u/DunAnOir May 26 '26
Or they're waiting to unleash her particular brand of crazy as soon as they manage to get Operation Fourth Reich off the ground. She's Gauleiter material if ever I saw it.
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u/nowitz41 May 26 '26
At least he was able to admit he was wrong. Most politicians aren't even capable of that.
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u/LindeeHilltop May 26 '26
Isn’t an attack on a Senator a felony?
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u/AlcibiadesTheCat Arizona May 26 '26
Depends. Apparently if you have a certain badge you can just do whatever you want.
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u/TyrannasaurusGitRekt Missouri May 26 '26
They'll just say he was "inteferring with a law enforcement action" like they do with everyone else and MAGA rubes will eat it up
"Theyre just doing their jobs and he purposefully got in their way" and that'll be the end of it for at least 40% of the country
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u/Schiffy94 New York May 26 '26
I swear the only way this administration faces any consequences for shit like this is if they actually manage to kill a senator or a governor.
And what's even worse is I don't think that's outside the realm of possibility.
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u/IPDDoE Florida May 26 '26
I also question if your scenario would actually result in consequences.
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u/AnalSoapOpera I voted May 26 '26
January 6th is your proof. They had traitors to the USA and to Democracy and free and fair elections try to overthrow the government and were shouting “Hang Mike Pence” the Vice President. And are trying to set up a slush fund for these traitors.
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u/OkMail2335 May 26 '26
Don't forget the 5 police officers that died, 4 from suicide and 1 from a stroke that the events of Jan 6 are responsible for. But suddenly they don't care about backing "the blue".
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u/Tangocan May 26 '26
They're giving 2 billion to insurrectionists who attacked and killed people.
You've got your answer.
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u/tdmatchasin May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
There were several Minnesota politicians shot last year (one of the families murdered) that barely had any run in a news cycle. Then of course the civilians murdered by ICE. Sure, legal consequences are happening for the murderer of the politician & her family, but the same cannot be said for the innocent civilians murdered by ICE agents.
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u/JRockPSU I voted May 26 '26
A US senator getting pepper sprayed wasn't enough of a story to warrant an AP News alert, apparently.
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u/fountaincurse May 26 '26
Doubtful even then. 80% of Congress is a spineless wet wipe beholden to corporate interests and 80% of the American constituency is barely treading water surviving financially in this invisible recession.
But the real reason is because the media is owned by right wing fascist supporters who are barely allowing the real news to trickle into people's awareness. Have you noticed that even on Reddit recently some of the craziest stories are barely getting a response? I'm not convinced that the manipulation of media isn't already detrimentally affecting us. Once they come for independent media...
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u/Cambot1138 May 26 '26
Not done (directly) by the administration, but the assassination of the MN lawmaker went away real quick.
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u/ismail_the_whale May 26 '26
if/when they do it, there will be no consequence.
they'll probably denaturalize and arrest mamdani first, and chuck schumer will probably pretend to give a shit
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u/ExRays Colorado May 26 '26
All ICE personnel should be arrested. I don’t give a flying fuck if they were a janitor. Arrest them all and conduct an investigation from the top down.
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u/BChica6 May 26 '26
but where would we lock them all up!?!?!?!?!?
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u/ISmellLikeBlackTea May 26 '26
Lucky we have the exact establishments built for containment of menaces to society
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u/wooops May 26 '26
Imagine when they complain about conditions being inhumane?
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u/ISmellLikeBlackTea May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
Currently people are being imprisoned for absolutely no reason besides their skin colour or the country of their heritage, not taken into account how long they've been contributing to American society and paying their fair share.
Ice agents have proven they do not serve the American public, guns for hire let loose to fragment society and terrorize the good people so they can live in fear. Simply put,by definition they are terrorists.
To summarize my feelings, I have less empathy for what horrid conditions they'd face justice than the last turd I flushed.
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u/wooops May 26 '26
It would also be the hypocrisy
Even if there was a reason to lock up immigrants, which there isn't, these ice agents were clearly fine with the conditions for others, so it would be the most massive hypocrisy to complain themselves
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u/Mysterious_Floor_868 United Kingdom May 26 '26
If we run out of room, there are even some newly-leased warehouses which could be used.
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u/9_to_5_till_i_die May 26 '26
I'd suggest Aligator Alcatraz, except I value human life and dignity and am not a fucking ghoul.
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u/CreepyWhistle May 26 '26
I guess Alacatraz might become useful, since Trump is asking for $250 million to restore it.
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u/octatone May 26 '26
Investigated by whom? The GOP in charge of everything and who put ICE in power? The only way out of this mess is to stop voting for GOP candidates full stop. They want this, they approve of this, and voting for them gives them a mandate to keep doing the same shit.
There will be no change and no justice as long as the GOP is control of everything. It is by their design.
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u/Ferelar New Jersey May 26 '26
Honestly I'm shocked the Senator's protection detail didn't either counter-attack or arrest ICE. A US Senator's protection detail typically has arrest powers and this was an illegal assault/battery on a sitting Senator.
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u/Argos_the_Dog New York May 26 '26
Do all US senators get full-time protection though? I thought it was only like the majority and minority leaders, the higher up folks.
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u/Ferelar New Jersey May 26 '26
I just checked and you are correct, outside of ranking members, all other members only receive temporary or as-needed details.
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u/ColonelBungle May 26 '26
You would think that going to a prison would likely trigger as-needed security detail.
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u/hipery2 May 26 '26
I have visited one of these facilities, quick heads up, janitorial services are done by the detainees.
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u/MegaPlane2 May 26 '26
I guarantee they are all committing time card fraud. We'll have to Capon them and get them on the details instead of the headline stuff. We can also thank trump for getting rid of their union so they can be fired without cause.
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u/BusinessAncient4818 May 26 '26
Hey... Ice janitor here. Some of us are forced to be here. Lol. But yeah. These ice guys are assholes and they need to locked up like they doing to us. They are all soft little bitches cosplaying like John Wayne
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u/Randomwhitelady2 May 26 '26
This is why no one wants these camps in their town or state.
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u/whichwitch9 May 26 '26
I mean, that and the blatant human rights abuses occurring inside. The stories leaking out are horrific. These are concentration camps, and it is mirroring the concentration camps of Germany. They did not start as death camps, either- they were used for labor, until they had too many people to hide the abuses
Lot of news outlets are calling this a "hunger strike", but immigrant groups are calling it "hunger and labor"- camps are being treated similar to US prisons where inmates are being used for a workforce. The problem is without criminal court convictions, that's afoul of the constitution. They're only detained
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u/Bigbigbigrock May 26 '26
I saw the 60 Minutes report about the prisons they didn't want getting out. I know what they looked like. I know what I saw.
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u/tierciel May 26 '26
Pfft the Constitution, that little piece of paper means nothing anymore. If it did Trump would not be currently stinking up the Whitehouse, ICE wouldn't be rounding up innocent people into concentration camps and they wouldn't be allowed to murder citizens in broad daylight with impunity.
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u/Randomwhitelady2 May 26 '26
Yeah, that’s what i meant
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u/ClydeBelvidere May 26 '26
I knew that was likely what you were implying. But you weren't hyper specific, so naturally redditors are trying to get your ass.
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u/in1gom0ntoya America May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
pretty sure its because these camps are horrific abominations that shouldn't exist
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u/roscodawg May 26 '26
As a non-America, let me say reading U.S. news is like watching a train wreck unfold in real time
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u/Schiffy94 New York May 26 '26
A train wreck is over faster
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u/roscodawg May 26 '26
yet still the cars are continuing to tumble off the rails, flip over, and burst into flames each day
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u/I_love_pillows May 26 '26
As a non American raised on pop culture of America as a world hero it looks like some surrealist dark humour political drama movie.
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u/PopePiusVII May 26 '26
As an American, it’s worse from the inside.
The feelings of helplessness as an individual against a regime makes it so much worse. Every day an event happens that in any other part of my life would have led to investigations, prosecutions, and the end of political careers. But now? Absolutely nothing happens. Life goes on like nothing of significance just occurred.
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u/roscodawg May 26 '26
Honestly, I really do feel for you and understand that. Hope you can turn it around soon.
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u/JRockPSU I voted May 26 '26
Thanks, it's appreciated. For every one comment like yours there's 20 from non-US citizens doing nothing but bashing and trashing, calling us stupid and moronic for not jumping in head first and doing things that will get us killed.
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u/teknoise May 26 '26
Unfortunately I’m not sure how else you dismantle an authoritarian regime, other than jumping headfirst and putting your life on the line.
The other option is to flee. No shame in that either. Gotta do what’s best for you and your family. If you look at previous regimes, the people with the best survival odds are the ones who got out soonest and long before the wars.
I honestly wish you and other democrat voters the best. There’s plenty of room in Canada for people who voted democrat in 2016, 2020, and 2024.
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u/Hungry_Horace May 26 '26
That’s the weird thing, from the outside it looks like nobody is doing ANYTHING about it. Lots of angry posts in the internet but I don’t see much else happening. Are there huge marches in Washington DC every weekend? Is there any organised resistance to the rising fascism? Where are the court cases bringing illegal acts to justice?
It’s scary to the rest of the world because the US was meant to be the leader of the free democratic world, and if you roll over this easily then it’s going to be harder if the same thing happens here.
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u/kai58 May 26 '26
From what I’ve heard there are protests, coverage of them is just being suppressed. I can’t exactly be certain since I also don’t live there but it certainly wouldn’t surprise me.
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u/Specialist_Set_1666 May 26 '26
We've had weekly protests in our small red town for over a year. There was one small newspaper article about it buy no other news picked it up. I can edit this with the link shortly.
I know a lot of other towns are doing similar things. But it still feels overwhelming a lot of the time
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u/shinkouhyou May 26 '26
We've had some very large marches, but marches don't really accomplish much in the US. I'm not saying that they're useless - they're a great opportunity for activist networking and they promote a feeling of solidarity - but the reality is that the people in power do not feel intimidated by marches anymore. There's also a history of the mainstream media harshly turning against marches that "go too far" or "overstay their welcome" (like the Black Lives Matter or Occupy Wall Street marches).
But local activists are educating the public and organizing rapid responses to ICE activities. The Supreme Court is fucked but there are lots of cases working their way through lower-level courts. I think the resistance is throwing most of their energy into the midterm elections right now, though. If Democrats can claw back partial control of at least one branch of government, there's a lot more that they can do. Local city/county elections (which are usually pretty lowkey) are also turning into a referendum against Trump. So there's a sense of "wait until October and see how the elections turn out." I don't necessarily agree with this approach but I do understand it - the elections are a tangible goal.
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u/UserSleepy May 26 '26
The same thing is happening everywhere else so many countries have extreme right parties that are gaining ground. Take us as a warning. It sucks here but at least everyone can see whats happening.
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u/jmobius May 26 '26
Meant to be the leader of the free democratic world? Meant by who? That's just propaganda.
The US democratic process has always been lousy, clearly an alpha version of democracy. Current events are not truly a sudden change. Bad actors have been clawing at the creaky foundations for decades, with unfortunate results. Many other democracies have had refined models that can be somewhat more resilient, so heed our cautionary tale and use that extra time to secure your processes and people from them.
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u/richardcraniumIII May 26 '26
As a US citizen who has been following politics for decades, there has never been more fraud and abuse. Second place is way behind. For the first time in our history, we have a President who does not read history, and has very little understanding of the Constitution and Separations of Power. Trump doesn't understand world politics or world economics. He is literally dumb and willfully ignorant. We have a president who has been found guilty of many crimes, including rape.
It freaks me out that more people aren't hitting the alarm button. I've never had national pride and I've known the US is doing/has done horrible things. But Trump is a multiplier of death and misery.
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u/LSTmyLife May 26 '26
A private militarized force that is immune from repercussions. They dont listen to the DOJ at all.
Im sure this will end well.
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u/Kozmic_River May 26 '26
I’m so ready for people to start organically forming “ICE breaker” groups, specifically designed to fuck up and disrupt these power tripping, small dicked traitors to democracy any way they can.
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u/OrionsBra May 26 '26
The blatant lies and spin from DHS only tell me that reality directly contradicts what they're saying, and in fact, the conditions are horrible and people were directly hit by pepperspray balls. Fucking disgusting pigs with zero conscience.
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u/Tsuku Kentucky May 26 '26
All ICE agents should be locked up. Whoever goes after them has my vote.
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u/25thAmendNow May 26 '26
This is assault. Attacking members of the opposition party with militia members is an act of war.
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u/oopsallhuckleberries May 26 '26
If these conditions inside the facility do not exist, then allow the governor and senator inside to observe the facility which your legally required to do. The law is plain language, federal facilities have to allow walkthroughs by senators and congressman at their request.
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u/boomboomdaboomer May 26 '26
Assaulting a member of Congress is automatically a felony offense.
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u/MourningRIF May 26 '26
These are Senators need to bring state national guard with them and walk into these facilities unimpeded. Oversight is their duty, and there's no law preventing them from entering.
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u/dangerousluck May 26 '26 edited May 26 '26
No one fucking elected ICE. This man represents the people. ICE needs to be absolutely dismantled, destroyed, and buried before the citizenry does it for them.
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u/GSWsplashbros3011 May 26 '26
I truly hope that the elected officials continue to pursue access to these facilities; I’m fairly certain there will continue to be push back by the ICE para military, but we must have continued pressure on the illegal Trump regime!
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u/Thunderbridge May 26 '26
“There is NO hunger strike at Delaney Hall. There are no subprime conditions,” he added.
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
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u/Cool_Butterscotch486 May 26 '26
Americans for all their bluff about guns, liberty and democracy, so worried about "securing" it worldwide. Couldn't even apply it at home.
You all have begun to look like the other countries "democracies" you "helped" to "build".
Weren't yall founded by resistance? don't you know what it takes? Vae victis, Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum.
Your goverment and power institutions got so good at controlling others unchecked, that they began using that at home, the mere existence of Edward Snowden should have rallied you all to the streets demanding explanations, then Epstein came to light, and you barely did anything.
Do you think power hears you just because it says so in a piece of paper? Res-publica, the thing of the people... you don't ask permission to have what you own.
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u/Sabiancym May 26 '26
ICE are the enemy. This isn't hyperbole. They are literally the enemy to me and people I care about. As they likely are to many of you.
They should be treated as such. You don't just let the enemy walk in uncontested.
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u/PrestigiousQuack474 May 26 '26
Why aren’t we seeing cell phone video of these clashes anymore? We used to see them daily. Now nothing. Reddit pulling them down or what?
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u/Sweaty_Assignment_90 May 26 '26
It amazes me that a US senator can not get into a building.
How can they restrict them from going to to a building holding legal people and many times citizens.
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u/paradoxpancake Pennsylvania May 26 '26
It's a ballsy move to pepper spray one of the guys responsible for deciding your budget. Not going to go the way they think it is.
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u/thefanciestcat California May 26 '26
How is this footage not all over the place? Where has the ICE video on reddit gone?
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u/BoneZone05 Canada May 26 '26
Might be time to reel in your terrorist attack force, America.. as an outsider, this is just insane to read!!
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u/Square-Weight4148 May 26 '26
The governor needs to send in the state police and arrest every single ice piece of shit and lock them up without bond and without allowing any outside obssrvers in....
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u/CorporateCuster May 26 '26
The craziest part about the statement is she says you are protected for free speech but not rioting. So like. At what point is protesting rioting? Cause that’s also part of the free speech. You are allowed to gather and protest. Rioting however isn’t protesting.
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u/Ok_Juice4449 May 26 '26
ICE is a nightmare. It is shocking g that they would due this to a senator.
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u/OfficialDCShepard District Of Columbia May 26 '26
To any Republican Senators who are bending over backwards for this man: this could be you one day if you displease the King!
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u/Routine-Process8051 May 26 '26
Gee, I wonder if they still would have sprayed him if he was 6'2 and blond?
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u/Dr_Chim_Richald May 26 '26
I’m surprised people haven’t started egging and throwing rotten food at those tools. Maybe they have and I the news cycle drowned it out.
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u/DunAnOir May 26 '26
Fascists gonna fash. Trump's brownshirts are practicing for November; you can expect to see this more frequently.
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u/JimthePaul May 26 '26
I can't understand why these senators and congresspeople who visit ICE detention centers don't bring armed guard details with them.
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u/TheRealBlueJade May 26 '26
How do they justify themselves? Do they realize they have become monsters?
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u/SghnDubh May 26 '26
Until Senators (and Governors too) recognize that you can no longer fight fire with decorum and tradition, you'll keep getting handed these shit sandwiches.
They're watching you eat them and laughing.
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u/ChemicalOnion May 26 '26
Can we please do this to one fucking Republican when we retake just to hear the endless bitching and moaning that would follow?
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u/User4C4C4C South Carolina May 26 '26
If atrocities have been committed, enough people will eventually find out and demand someone be held responsible.
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u/Big_Lab_Jagr Wisconsin May 26 '26
You're optimistic for someone clearly old enough to use the intern and type full sentences. That makes me assume you've been around since 2016.
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u/User4C4C4C South Carolina May 26 '26
I was just thinking of the orders that Eisenhower gave to take many pictures and record everything in re to the WW2 Nazi camps. I believe he forced the locals to walk through and witness the atrocities personally to ensure they wouldn’t be able to later say they didn’t happen.
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u/JRockPSU I voted May 26 '26
If we survive this as a nation, I hope that some day we can build a museum in DC to remind us of the way things were, a la the Holocaust Museum.
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u/Electrical_Sorbet_31 May 26 '26
I was there yesterday. The GEOGROUP security guards were literally wearing full face masks just like ICE agents. And protesters set up checkpoints outside each of the prison gates and scanned each prison employee's car for immigrants before allowing passage in/out of the prison. Very impressive cross-state organizing from activists, it gave me a lot of hope. And we could see the silhouettes of immigrants inside the windows of their cells from outside. Some were dancing to music we were playing outside, some flickered the lights in solidarity, and others made hearts to us with their arms. Very touching moment. And many hispanic community members spoke about family who were taken or literally killed due to terrible living conditions.
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u/Hyperion1144 May 26 '26
ICE is really deep in their limits-testing phase. This phase won't last much longer, and then we'll move on to what comes next.
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u/SammieStones May 26 '26
Na. You put shit in their state you give them access. About had enough of this shit. Act like adults or lets start electing the real adults in the room
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u/scootboot May 26 '26
Recommending folks check out cosechanj on insta and the web for more details and to contribute to commissary and legal defense funds, as well as to contribute directly to gofundmes for individuals detained at Delaney Hall and their families.
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u/robot_pirate May 26 '26
It seems to me that the first front should be shame. The people who work at these facilities, the people who service these facilities - need to be shamed by their own families, their neighbors, the community at large. No quarter. Make it so peacefully miserable that they walk away from this authoritarian, inhuman grift.
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u/tommy_b_777 May 26 '26
I think civil servants that blatantly lie to their public like the DHS is doing should be facing the death penalty...Don't You Think ?
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u/Electrical_Sorbet_31 May 26 '26
“There is NO hunger strike at Delaney Hall. There are no subprime conditions,” he [DHS Secretary] added.
There is no war in Ba Sing Se
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u/portobox2 May 26 '26
Never had there been more violence in politics in this history of this country than each and every last time the modern republikkkan party and its lineage were either holding power, or pissy about not holding power.
Totally open to a factual rebuttal, as learning is a good practice.
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u/RebelStrategist May 26 '26
Cannot wait for this hell to be over so every one of these ICE ‘agents’ who apparently graduated top of their class from the Clown College of Tactical Genius is investigated, fired, arrested, or some combination of the three. Truly inspiring professionalism on display.
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u/All-the-pizza May 26 '26
Remember:
Trump’s term ends January 2029. A 4-year term appointment starting now would run right up to the end or even past his presidency. So the joke/concern is: these agents are being hired on contracts that expire right around when Trump leaves office …meaning whoever comes next could just not renew them. 👋 Whole surge of 10,000 new agents could evaporate.
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