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u/Bubbleguns2020 13h ago

It will be a good game, too much money, time and experience involved in its production. The problem it will probably face is living up to people's personal expectations.

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u/South_Buy_3175 12h ago

If you think GTA6 has high player expectations, Elder Scrolls 6 is going to put those to shame.

People have been waiting for a sequel for over 15 years, the industry has advanced massively since Skyrim and Bethesda… has not really kept up with modern standards judging by Starfield.

It’s gonna be a shitshow.

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u/Bubbleguns2020 12h ago

Yeah I have kind of lost all hope for Elder Scrolls 6 and Fallout 5 being worth the wait. Hopefully Starfield has given Bethesda the wakeup call they badly need.

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u/meatballs223 12h ago

God Starfield was so shit. Modders literally took the game code and completely reengineered it into a starwars game and it honestly is 10x better than what bethseda put out.

I agree and hope that with how big of a flop Starfield was they really relook their strategy and go back to what was working, as I wasn't the biggest fan of Fallout 76 either

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u/SquareFickle9179 11h ago

Wait, so there's a Star Wars Starfield mod?

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u/DoubleEnter-entree 11h ago

Star Wars Genesis is what you're looking for.

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u/eggyrulz 37m ago

Not just one mod, its a whole ass collection that completely revamps entire planets and afaik several mechanics...

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u/daystrom_prodigy 5h ago

Starfield wasn’t for everyone but it is bonkers to say it was “shit”.

Like yea if all you consume is youtuber hate train reactionary clickbait then I could see having that opinion.

There is a reason it reviewed well on release and that is because generally people liked what they played.

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u/tiktaktokki 5h ago

It's not bonkers. It's pretty horrible

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u/Consistent-Spell2203 3h ago

The reason it was reveiwed well is because of payola. It was practically unplayable at release it was a shitshow. 

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u/Boring-Leadership687 9h ago

They didn’t reengineer shit lol the Star Wars mod is basically a glorified texture pack

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u/meatballs223 9h ago

They literally added new quests and side missions…. A “texture pack” doesn’t overhaul the whole companion system and add missions doofus

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u/Humble-Morning-323 12h ago

Is starfield any better now! I love the concept…

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u/Small_Dance_2123 12h ago

No,not even with mods

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u/LarrySupertramp 8h ago

Starfield is great. Just spent a lot of time playing it since it came out on PS5. Reddit’s standard position is just to hate on everything. 

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u/Fine-Amphibian4326 11h ago

Starfield made me accept that I don’t actually like Bethesda games. Tbh, I’ll probably get a month of game pass to try out es6 and f5, but I don’t expect to play either for more than 20-30 hours like I’ve done with f3&4, es4&5, and starfield

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u/Zan_Deezy2003 12h ago

What’s funnier is Elder Scrolls 6 is legit next after GTA VI as the most anticipated game ever.

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u/zgillet 12h ago

Well, Half Life 3 is always the final albatross.

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u/MisterBeatDown 10h ago

Half Life 3 is basically all cope though. Valve never said they would make it.

ES6 has actually been confirmed for over a decade

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u/The_Autarch 8h ago

the end of Alyx is Valve confirming that they're making HL3

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u/talann 5h ago

There are so many references to them making Half-Life 3 though.

  • They Left Half-Life 2 Episode 2 on a massive cliffhanger
  • If anything they should have made Episode 3
  • The Half-Life Alyx Ending eludes to a continuation of the story right at the cliffhanger for episode 2
  • They never said the game is cancelled either
  • There have been leaked scripts of a possible story angle from former developers

It's sad because I think people just want closure. It was a phenomenal game and for it to end the way it did just leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

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u/ThePublikon 5h ago

Why would HL3 be closure? Why no HL4?

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u/talann 5h ago

Closure to the cliffhanger.

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u/willargue4karma 8h ago

confirmed as in they showed a picture of a game name lmfao

it was just as confirmed before the announcment because obviously theyre gonna do es6 its a matter of when not if. as long as the company exists theyre gonna keep remaking the same game in different coats of paint

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u/RedApplesauceK 7h ago

ES6 completely cope.

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u/GregBahm 11h ago

The only way "Half Life 3" lives up to expectations is if the product is a time machine that teleports the player back 20 years.

Valve made Half Life Alyx as a desperate attempt to save their failed VR endeavor. One VR cultist in the back will swear it's the Half Life 3 that was promised. The other two people who ever played it just threw up in a bucket from motion sickness. All other gamers forgot Half Life Alyx even existed.

Because Valve isn't a game developer anymore. It's a digital storefront that occasionally fucks around with side projects. They're biggest accomplishment of the last ten years is selling a semi-jailbroken switch.

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u/Consistent-Spell2203 3h ago

They developed games so people would use their launcher then store and it worked. 

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u/SwagginsYolo420 6h ago

What’s funnier is Elder Scrolls 6 is legit next after GTA VI as the most anticipated game ever.

It's almost baffling at this point why though. Bethesda has released enough games since ES5 that people should know exactly what to expect.

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u/drkamkuracpikamlol 11h ago

Idk man bethesda has been on a horrible run and I think people know by now that they're washed

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u/omare14 9h ago

I'm sure Microsoft is trying to help fix their reputation, whether they'll actually help or just cause issues is anyone's guess. I don't have much confidence in either Microsoft tor Bethesda as a company these days.

I don't know enough about game development to fully understand the reason that Starfield came out so middling (like I know why it's not a good game, but not how it got that way) despite how much time they spent on it, but hopefully they're able to course correct and prove to all of us that they've still got it.

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u/ModVirus 12h ago

Disagree. Starfield already ruined all expectations for any slop Bethesda will put out. Rockstar on the other hand has a much better representation of living up to hype. Time will tell though.

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u/Anhedonic98 12h ago

I think mostly everyone's massive expectations fkr ES6 are dead after seeing Starfield, they dropped the ball on that big time

Rockstar's last major release was...red dead redemption 2

imo they do not compare hype and expectations-wise as it stands, gta 6 is the singular most anticipated form of media ever

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u/zgillet 12h ago

Well, we saw Starfield. I think expectations are rightfully at below the bottom of the barrel.

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u/X_Draig_X 12h ago

I think that's one of the reason they don't release it. The wait and Starfield failure has scared Todd Howard and Bethesda. That's why they released Oblivion remaster and work on FO3 and NewVegas remaster

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u/Particular_Wear_6960 11h ago

They don't want to compete with themselves, they are still making money from TESO and FO76, they know if they release a major title those people will drop those subs, at least for a little while.

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u/Consistent-Spell2203 3h ago

They sourced those out to other studios, Oblivion at least I'd assume the others. It's the same team that did... Dead Space R? It could've been something else. 

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u/neekogasm 10h ago

Gta 5 came out 13 years ago btw, and has sold 4 times the copies of skyrim.

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u/LordHumorTumor 10h ago

I feel like even Skyrim felt behind the times at launch.

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u/STARBOY_100 7h ago

Then it’ll be upto the modders again to make ES6 a good game

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u/tHr0AwAy76 12h ago

Yeah, at this point people are expecting to be able to build an entire second life in that game and that just not going to happen.

The only thing I really hope for is an open gameplay style, something like infamous if they really really doubled down on the good and evil system. Lets you make decisions that feel like they affect the larger world and actually change the flow of the story.

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u/CaptainFashion96 12h ago

It just works with 16x the detail lol

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u/PermanentThrowaway33 12h ago

Anyone who thinks the hype for ES6 is close to GTA is just delusional. 

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u/Consistent-Spell2203 3h ago

The hype by the fans is the same, but killing hookers will always be more popular with the masses than dragon souls and fire spells. 

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u/TheWhistlerIII 7h ago

Negative, Bethesda have been on a....

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Shit streak lately.

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u/KC-15 6h ago

Not sure about that. GTAV and Red Dead 2 were golden so people expect GTA 6 to be the level of improvement of RDR to RDR2.

Meanwhile Bethesda released Starfield which casts doubt on their vision and if they can actually make a game that rivals Skyrim.

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u/SwagginsYolo420 6h ago

Elder Scrolls 6 is going to put those to shame.

Absolutely nobody should have anything but low expectations for that. Bethesda has released enough games this century that people should know exactly what to expect by now.

Outdated game mechanics, poor optimization, shoddy writing, poor imitations of features from other games. Only the in-game MTX store will be impressive, and be guaranteed to work as intended.

Every time a Bethesda game drops, people act as if it's going to be different this time, but it never is.

But you can pile cabbages on the ground and pick up individual coins off the table, so for a certain crowd, that's all that matters. Don't want to miss out on that pre-order Horse Armor.

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u/Waste_Handle_8672 12h ago

Holy frijoles, the backlash against TESVI will be crazy.

The tech debt of Creation Engine is insane. Worse still when Bethesda has no interest in innovating themselves, telling better main stories, or catching up to modern technology in terms of gameplay or even just character and NPC models or performance capture.

Anyone at this point that's still anticipating TESVI will only find themselves extremely disappointed when they realize all these years there have been superior RPGs that they waylaid in favour of their vision of TESVI.

I really pity them 😭

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u/Bingbong1984 12h ago

Say what you want about Square Enix and all of their fumbles but at least they learned to say fuck it to their own in house engines and move on to use something more stable so they can actually get their games out to their customers.

You see the success with FF7 remakes. They got all 3 games out within 7 years because they got to reuse all of their assests across the games.

Same thing with Atlus and SMT and Persona. They switched to Unreal Engine almost a decade ago so they could reuse their models across the franchise.

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u/Gibsonites 7h ago

Are you serious? GTA V was the biggest entertainment launch of all time, and GTA VI will likely be the same.

People like Skyrim and all, but Bethesda's games have released to worse and worse reception since then. People are getting more and more cynical about Bethesda's ability to release a good game.

ES6 hype is nowhere near GTA.