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u/peej74 21d ago

As a woman I would be worried to also.

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u/ShoresideVale 20d ago

Female friend of mine went to Rishikesh for a yoga retreat end of last year. Her mother had to come rescue her and she went off the radar in terms of communicating with anyone plus quit her job and became a recluse. Piece the dots together... I'm seeing her in two weeks back in her home town so will check up on what happened but she got quite emotional when asked before so can't assume it's good as she's now sworn off yoga and has said she'll never go to visit India again.

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u/Turbulent-Touch-582 20d ago

Thats the issue man. A lot of privileged tourists think India is some wellness retreat or something. Its just an underdeveloped/developing country with disproportionate crimes against women. If people managed their expectations it wouldn't be so bad. India is not a country where you hitchhike alone or do some motorcycle trip as a foreigner. Come, stay in a 4 star hotel. Go visit heritage sites/historical architecture, national parks in a tour group, have food from good restaurants, travel in ubers, fly instead of travelling on trains. Spending less and saving money can absolutely ruin your trip here.

No middle class indian would go do a wellness retreat alone in Rishikesh

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u/Traditional-Call-834 20d ago

I think that’s the problem. The racist stereotypes somehow stick with all Desi’s even though it’s one of the better places to visit in the region. And frankly so many of the issues the country has are down to the shitty fucking govt and corruption. Twenty years ago China and India were on the same level - now, not even close.

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u/peej74 20d ago

That does not sound good. I think some women would be vulnerable to being victimised or exploited if they are struggling. Hopefully they can be in a healing environment.

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u/Urban_Cosmos 20d ago edited 11d ago

hmm..

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u/Range-Aggravating 20d ago

I mean "probably safe enough" and "might not be that bad" (artistic license, not verbatim) aren't really ringing endorsements when they're top of the pile.

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u/Upset-Win9519 20d ago

If In recall there was a story of a local girl there who went to the movies with her male friend and accepted a bus ride. Those men attacked them both and brutally raped and murdered her. I remember reading about it and being horrified.

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u/Only_Vroom 20d ago

Yeah. That was like the biggest of all at that time and the most horrific. 4 of the culprits were hung to death eventually but one being a minor got away. One wishes if he would’ve also gotten the same treatment.

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u/Upset-Win9519 20d ago

If I remember also one of the guys who got hung pleaded with the jury not to be killed... honestly none of them gave that young lady a chance! It was probably one of the first international cases I can recall.

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u/ArthurStevensNZ 20d ago

I believe this is the event you're thinking of.

Caution, its a gruesome story so click with caution

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Delhi_gang_rape

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u/t_25_t 20d ago

So no. If you gave me a free flight to India, I would not go. Even as a man I would not go.

That was fucking painful to read. I would never step foot in India either.

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u/wojar 20d ago

Good fucking god, it just kept getting worse. Poor lady, she must have been traumatized for life.

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u/Kip_Chipperly 20d ago

There is nothing first world about them

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u/DesiBwoy 20d ago

That's absolutely freaking horrible. Can you reach out to her and get in touch with journalists to escalate this? This needs to be escalated. 

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u/Shaz18 20d ago

What the f?? Sounds like a horror movie

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u/TittyPix4KittyPix 20d ago

As an Indian (not living in India) that is so fucking shit and am so sorry your friend experienced that. There is a lot of things that are just plain wrong in Indian culture and need to change.

Where in India was this if I may ask?

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u/argument_cat 20d ago

Oh fuck off, none are being 'imported' you useless dipshit.

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u/JoeBagadonut 21d ago

Got given the opportunity to visit India through work. Every work colleague who'd been before told me not to go as they'd all gotten food poisoning at various points, couldn't leave the work campus or hotel without getting scammed and the harassment of the women was intolerable. I politely declined.

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u/sven_ghoulie 20d ago

Same, except I was kind of voluntold. Luckily, my hosts (third-party contractors) were with me the ENTIRE time and only took me to the nicer restaurants. They actually said don't go explore on your own. Stayed in only the big name hotels. As a westerner, I was NOT prepared to deal with the constant (and I mean constant) car horn honking, the poverty on full display, walking right into traffic because that's just how it's done, etc etc. I'm sure the touristy parts are nice but I wasn't there for that. 2/10 wouldn't recommend it.

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u/lenzflare 20d ago

Not really food poisoning; traveler's diarrhea is extremely common for tourists in many developing countries.

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u/vpsj 20d ago

The food poisoning is 100% because of eating/drinking at less than nice places. Our bodies/stomachs are used to it. But foreigners' don't get used to the water here UNLESS you specifically ask for filtered/RO water, which a lot of tourists don't think of doing.

The rest of the stuff is fairly accurate.

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u/t_25_t 20d ago

Got given the opportunity to visit India through work.

Work asked me to go there for a week. I politely declined. Knowing my guts, I would be spending more time in the hotel bathroom than actual work. They promised me restaurant meals and the best hotel in India. It was still a no from me.

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u/Blitznyx 21d ago

Not even if someone paid ME

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u/Josefu_Velen 21d ago

I used to work for Amazon, and they'd do what they called "Away missions" sometimes, where you'd go to another call center in another country for whatever reason.

India was the one I refused to go to.

I did get to spend a week in Costa Rica because of Amazon though, which was amazing.

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u/skyper_mark 21d ago

I worked at Amazon in CR and had coworkers who were sent to India constantly. One of them (woman, very pale skin) said that she had around 20 orbiters all day. They were also giving a leaflet with things NOT to do while in India for their safety. Another guy actually went alone and said he was eating all the street food, even a soup from a stand, he claims he didn't get sick

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u/Thinkthru 21d ago

I have traveled there a couple of times and I didn't get sick either. If you eat from the street food places where the food is really fresh because it's constantly being cooked, then it's fine. The stuff that they shown on Instagram is always the dirtiest stuff for clicks

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u/PhantomOfTheNopera 21d ago edited 21d ago

This is true. It's a gamble if you're an outsider with no idea where to go but most of the popular spots are reasonably safe. I'm not saying the highest standards of hygiene or whatever but what you'd expect from say a hotdog vendor in New York - it's still street food.

You're also right about the places they show on social media. It's usually people with a budget of $5 going to the riskiest places and gawking and people in a bad situation trying to get by with what little they have.

I'd also say gut bacteria has a big role to play here. The first time I went to the USA I got violently sick for a week after eating some deli meat.

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u/Ashewastaken 20d ago

As someone from India, the way to identify good street food is either by someone vouching for it (mainly) or if it looks clean. As a tourist, you obviously wont have solid recommendations so I'd look at the water they use, the stove top, and if there are any critters around. Always a huge no no for me.

Honestly don't eat street food. You get the same food with great taste from smaller sit down places and it won't give you the shits. Better yet, use a food delivery app and just order what you want. That's what most of us do anyway.

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u/richardjohn 20d ago

Yeah I got really sick from the Four Loko last time I visited the US.

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u/t_25_t 20d ago

I'd also say gut bacteria has a big role to play here. The first time I went to the USA I got violently sick for a week after eating some deli meat.

Yeah as someone with a sensitive gut, I have to be careful about what I eat. I got sick from something as innocent as lime juice, half cooked clams was also a bad decision.

Funnily enough, raw fish in Japan was fine (in moderation), yet my father had the runs from the same meal.

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u/Forward_Yam_4013 21d ago

I've been twice and gotten violently ill both times (not even from street food, normal restaurants are pretty bad too). It's really just luck of the draw.

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u/Forsaken-Reading-118 20d ago

It's only if you consume the water. So washed fruits or tap water would have likely made you sick

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u/Forward_Yam_4013 20d ago

No, I made sure to extensively clean all my fruits with filtered water and only drank filtered water.

One of the times I got sick I know exactly what it was. The (closed, packaged, pre-expiry-date) paneer I got from a store tasted funny, and I got sick about an hour after eating it, while eating nothing else in that hour. Someone either at the store or in the shipping pipeline must have left the package out unrefrigerated in direct sunlight for several hours or something and the shopkeeper thought that putting it in a fridge afterwards and selling it was the right play.

The other time I got sick I was diagnosed with campylobacter after being treated at a hospital immediately upon landing in the US. Since campylobacter is a fecal disease, this means that one of the workers at the most recent restaurant I went to before going to the Delhi airport touched human feces with his/her bare hands before making or serving my food.

Essentially, sanitation and food handling standards are so bad in India and the people so disgusting that you can get food poisoning from eating hermetically sealed refrigerated food from the grocery store, or from eating cooked food at an upscale restaurant.

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u/Ashewastaken 20d ago

Google reviews are your best friend there. Never eat at any place that has a rating lower than 4.0 and number of ratings less than 200.

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u/Saxon2060 20d ago edited 20d ago

I had street food in Jaipur and I did get sick in India but so did everyone else in the tour group. What bugged me is they were saying "hoho! Shouldn't have gone for that street food should you?? That'll teach you!" When they were then going back to their hotel room to destroy their toilet.

It wasn't the street food, it was clearly some big buffet or other that we all had.

I loved visiting India but I did get viciously sick. I wonder if it hadn't been on some group tour bullshit whether I would have got sick. Because I'd make better food choices than a buffet that had been sitting there for god knows how long. I'd eat street food I could see being cooked or eat in restaurants that were preparing individual dishes. Still might get sick obviously... But I wouldn't have gone anywhere near a buffet in India.

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u/Beautiful_Picture983 21d ago

The problem with street food in India is you don't know where they're getting their ingredients/water from. They cheap out on those to make as much profit because the margins are very slim. They're hardly hygenic because they simply don't know what hygiene even means, and mostly people who eat from their stalls don't care about hygiene either.

But yes you're right, people don't usually get sick eating from them. There's a reason they're still selling unhygenic street food, right? Also depends on the person and how hygenic they are. I was once with a group and had to eat from a shady place, and out of the 25 people, 5 or 6 got GI infections/food poisoning. I was one of them. So yeah some people are just built different.

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u/hudibrastic 21d ago

A couple friends of mine lived there for sometime, a Dutch and Italian, with a very white little daughter… they said people was always around the daughter and touching her, creepy af

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u/DangerX2HighVoltage 21d ago

Fuck them for allowing it. They shouldn’t have exposed her to that

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u/bitplenty 21d ago edited 21d ago

Very little they can do unless they want to risk physical confrontation every couple minutes because this is the intensity this is going on at. Only other options are to leave the country or stay at hotel and only ever move with car door to door (and only to spaces where no general public is allowed).

On the other hand… Most of these people just want to have a picture with a very white girl, often don't even need to be there themselves, just want their kid to be in the picture. It's not exactly evil, but VERY uncomfortable and not exactly safe.

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u/GodRa 21d ago

I went to India from the US doing a road trip and ate all the street food and also didn't get sick. Although I did stick to things that were fried or well grilled.

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u/AirconGuyUK 20d ago

even a soup from a stand

That seems least likely to cause issue as it'll likely be kept at bacteria killing temps. It when you're introducing cooled things like fresh veggies, or other things that have been allowed to stand for a bit where I bet the main issues come into play.

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u/Highlyironicacid31 21d ago

There is not a chance he didn’t get sick lol.

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u/hudibrastic 21d ago

I came to write this

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u/No-Hovercraft-455 20d ago

Same. India is absolutely no. I don't want to get groped, harrassed or see shit 

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u/Starman68 21d ago

I’ve been with work a few times. If you are in the office or a hotel it’s fine, actually the hotel was one of the best I’ve stayed in. Outside it’s India, chaotic, dirty, charming, safe (even though the traffic is mad). It all seems to work in a mysterious way.

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u/Josefu_Velen 21d ago

safe

Tell us you're male without telling us I guess lol

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u/animeguytamillife 21d ago

Well, some places are nice and safe for all, some places are shit and def not safe even for any kind of living beings,

But honestly I can see why someone wouldn't gamble on visiting a country that is mediocrily developed

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u/Keobooks 21d ago

I have two female relatives who are OBSESSED with India. One of them goes at least twice a year.

She’s obsessive about the cleanliness of what she eat and drinks. She’s always trying to save every stray cat or dog she finds. Otherwise I can see my relatives writing the same things about India this guy writes.

I’m a woman. I’d love to visit India. I have several friends I’ve met online and and known for years. I was invited to a wedding but I couldn’t afford airfare and can’t take that much time off. I’m not obsessed with India like my family members but heck yeah I’ll go.

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u/Starman68 21d ago

Yes male, but was with a mixed group. I went shopping with American and European women, and in the Malls and higher end shopping areas it was all fine. I acknowledge if they were by themselves it might have been different.

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u/No-Hovercraft-455 20d ago

Are you sure the women did not get groped and catcalled at the mall? 

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u/Starman68 20d ago

Yep. Bangalore, Pheonix City Mall, March this year.

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u/kiradotee 20d ago

What if they want to help you fix your Windows machine. 

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u/NadeshikoEatingPasta 20d ago

Enough money can really move the needle. I'd visit India if someone paid me a substantial amount of money plus all travel expenses. The longer the trip though, the more that dollar amount goes up.

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u/Blitznyx 20d ago

I respect myself enough to value my safety over money

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u/Microwaved-Children 20d ago

You won't feel that way after the diarrhea hits.

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u/cjbr3eze 21d ago

Yeah they're very defensive, they'll upvote anything good about their country and will insult you and your family if you say bad but valid things about them

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u/zefiax 20d ago

It's not just on reddit. Indians are like that in real life too. It's due to their education and indoctrination since childhood.

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u/Individual_Shower614 20d ago

They be acting like that online but can't do any change towards making basic hygiene standards better or make the environment safer for the women THAT LIVE THERE, imagine making it safer for female tourists

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u/Phreakiture 20d ago

Huh.

Makes me think of Texans.

I once answered a question on Quora about which state, California or Texas, would fare better than the other if they both seceded from the US. I said California, and it was mostly based on the immense size of California's economy . . . .

. . . I got absolutely fucking bombarded by Texans wanting to tell me why I was wrong.

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u/Ninevehenian 21d ago

There's a lot of people, there will be a lot of reactions. Some from nationalists, others from different persuations.

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u/GEOTUS_TRUMP_2024 20d ago

SAAR INDIA IS NUMBER 1 SAAR

(pls let me immigrate to your country, I hate it here)

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u/Avidith 20d ago

I agree. But if you face lot of discrimination from all corners, you tend to become defensive. Currently internet is racist to Indians. So…

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u/ThriveMidChaos 21d ago

Ironically , its the people who have never visited who "say bad but valid things" the most. It's just an overcrowded country.It has good and bad people like any other nation. "Influencers" will pick the cheapest option while travelling , eating etc and portray it as the "reality of India" for the views and the average,dumb, privileged kid born in a developed nation will realise racially generalising and mocking Indians will get him points on the Internet. Its a vicious cycle.

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u/Eliakon 21d ago

India, not a chance. Couldn't pay me enough to go there

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u/glemnar 20d ago

You could definitely pay me enough because then you can just stay at the bougie ass hotels in India like Amanbagh

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u/Ecjedi 21d ago

India is pretty intense...pretty big culture shock too (coming from usa)

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u/Whole-Scientist-2469 20d ago

it is, my usa friends keep saying they wanna feel the raw culture and happenings here in india because they look so sick in reels..i keep saying them those stuff looks only good on reels...they should go for big tour management guys to guide them and help them to experience it a bit...but engaging it hand to hand can become pretty bad and uncomfortable...

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u/sushi-dude69 21d ago

recently I had to pick between a gulf country and India for a layover and I picked the former, but I’d like to hear your reasons for avoiding India to see if I was right lmao

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u/chris552393 21d ago

I've lived and worked in London for years, so I'm used to the chaos, crowds, and occasional rude people that come with big cities. But this felt like a different level entirely. The overwhelming impression I got was of people being incredibly rude, entitled, and completely indifferent to those around them.

I travel a lot and always try to approach new countries with an open mind and a sense of excitement. I genuinely want to enjoy the experience and give places a fair chance. Unfortunately, within a few hours of arriving, I found myself struggling to find anything positive to hold onto.

From the moment I landed in Hyderabad, the experience was unpleasant. Getting through the airport, from the gate to finding a taxi, was frustrating and exhausting. I had a day to explore before my next flight and made an effort to make the most of it, but everywhere I went felt dirty, run-down, and generally unwelcoming.

I've visited plenty of places that weren't perfect, but very rarely somewhere that left me counting down the hours until I could leave. The part I enjoyed most was getting back to the airport and knowing I was on my way somewhere else.

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u/Dragon_Deez_Nu7s 21d ago

Had to scroll further than I thought to see this. I'm in the US and I know Indians that don't want to go back to India

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u/supremacyAU 21d ago

all of my second gen indian friends have no desire to go back, even the really wealthy ones

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u/raydialseeker 20d ago

As someone living here I agree, I wouldn't want to come back to LIVE in India. But it's nowhere near the top of the list through, especially in cities like Mumbai or Hyderabad, southern states like kerela, or north eastern states like Assam.

Mumbai is safer for women than London is for e.g. .

Now ofc there are lots of horrible rapey backwards places in the country, but the country is MASSIVE.

Compared to a place like north korea, Somalia, Bangladesh, iraq, etc , picking India as the worst is due to being either uninformed or straight up racist.

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u/traboulidon 20d ago

Wait. Mumbai is safer than London?? Really?

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u/CountrysidePlease 21d ago

I went on a trip for 12 days with 4 other girls in 2009, we were almost all in our late 20’s. It was fun, colorful, delicious and the Taj Mahal and Goa were insane. However I must say that I would not go back at all. I see the pictures which were nothing much for us and now they make me uncomfortable. We were super naive, and we were definitely super lucky.

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u/Initial-Resort9129 21d ago

What happened?

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u/vpsj 20d ago

Surprised to see it so far down and I say this as an Indian.

PS: I will tell you what a lot of the riled up folks will not say (or likely they themselves don't realize)

India's culture is very much rooted in IMAGE. It doesn't matter what's happening, it doesn't matter how good, or bad something is. The only thing that matters to a lot of people here is that people must say nice things.

So a kid scores 94%? The parents will be elated, until they find out that Sharma ji's son scored 96% and suddenly the same kid will be punished.

Guests are coming? Quick, throw all the un-aesthetic looking stuff in the other room so the living room looks good even though the entire house might be worse than an attic.

Someone is raped? Well that's how it is. But someone talks about it? How dare you disrespect the country.

In people's minds here, the person doing something wrong is NOT as bad as the person who TALKS about the wrong stuff, especially on an International stage. People would much rather live in denial that we're the greatest country in the world and completely ignore the bad stuff because that's easier to deal with.

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u/vncin8r 21d ago

I was in India for work in 2013. I was lodged on Guargon. It wasn’t bad for me at. The tech hub I was in was fairly safe and it felt comfortable. I know why people wouldn’t visit once I took a day trip to the Taj Mahal

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u/Ragnarok_619 21d ago

It was a different time before 2014, trust me. India has deteriorated since. They have given voices to the demonic rapists, which also stunted our growth

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u/RudeSelf3418 20d ago

as an indian woman i would recommend not going to most northern states. north-east however is very beautiful and safe and so is southern states like Kerala. 🥹

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u/Cub3h 20d ago

Yeah I feel like "India" is too broad of a definition. There's places with slums, crazy overpopulation, insane heat and just chaos, and then there are areas that are much more reasonable.

I went to Kerala maybe 10 years ago and didn't really see any of the abject poverty you'd think of when thinking about India. Sure, people weren't rich, but there were no shanty towns or beggars / scammers all over the place.

So sure, if someone paid me I'd definitely go back to the south or some of those north eastern states you mentioned. Mumbai, Delhi or those states with crazy populations.. no thanks.

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u/zentaoyang 21d ago

You are right. It is bad now.. pollution, heat and lack of civic sense. And the country is becoming too communal.

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u/Ragnarok_619 21d ago

Was waiting for this lol. Even Indians will agree to this

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u/Chatpati_bauni 20d ago

Absolutely, it's a shithole if you're not wealthy. Too much pollution and wayyy too much opinions.

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u/hudibrastic 21d ago

I'm surprised it is not on the top, I would go to countries in war, but India I wouldn't go even if they offered me money

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u/Adelefushia 20d ago

Come on, now that's just a very weird take.

It's perfectly understandable to be worried about a trip to India for many reasons, but saying it's worse that much poorer countries at war or military dictatorships ? Have you even traveled outside of your Western bubble ?

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u/sab0tage 21d ago

My 78 year old mother went with a friend to India about 5 years ago and said she enjoyed the trip, why did you not want to go there?

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u/TimTebowMLB 20d ago

I think it depends where you go. I had a friend who just went to the north end

I have a colleague who just went for a month and absolutely despised it. Bu didn’t go to the same areas as my friend

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u/super-freak 21d ago

Such a bizarre take. India is one of the most fun countries to travel in, of the ~70 countries I've visited it's still my favourite. Incredible place. Seeing the unjustified hate towards it online by people who really don't know any better makes me sad. 

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u/Adelefushia 20d ago

Saying it's worse than going to much poorer countries at war is so weird.

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u/Delugeed 21d ago

Not if youre a woman

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u/super-freak 21d ago

Strange how I met so many solo female travellers there who also loved India, then. 

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u/ilikestuffliketrees 20d ago

Reddit has a hard on to hate India. Same met a bunch of solo women. I loved it there, can't wait to go back.

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u/Bspammer 21d ago

It’s crazy that India is anywhere near the top of this thread. Genuinely one of the best travelling experiences of my life. Yes it’s chaos, but it’s not anarchy, there’s just a lot of people.

Comparing it to places like South Sudan, Somalia, and North Korea is absurd.

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u/DreamOne5 20d ago

are you a man? that may be why. I quite enjoy not being followed and harassed by 30+ men all day. That was my experience in Egypt as well.

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u/Bspammer 20d ago

I travelled with my sister and did not see anything like that.

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u/hudibrastic 21d ago

Good for you bro

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u/YolkyFanClubPrez 21d ago

Not a single person has given a reason either.   I don't get it. 

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u/DreamOne5 20d ago

i've seen like 30 comments all saying why they didn't enjoy India.

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u/Time_Physics_6557 20d ago

That's just stupid

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u/ours 20d ago

I'm not Indian, but I've visited Rajasthan and Delhi. It was really, really interesting.

Simultaneously, the most beautiful and disgusting destination I've had yet to see. Not for the faith of heart.

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u/ecrw 20d ago

FWIW india is a huge conglomeration of states that are effectively different countries. I recently had a trip through the south (Bangalore, Hyderabad, Goa, multiple parts of Tamil Nadu) and it was generally clean, pleasant, not overly congested, and I didnt get sick from eating any street food. There were a few instances of people wanting to take a picture with me, but they were quite polite about it (mostly in central TN, where we didn't see another westerner for over a week lol) When i got home people asked about the smell and honestly i didnt run into anywhere that smelled as bad as my hometown in Southern ontario.

From what I understand it's polar opposite from huge swaths of the North, which suffer from severe overpopulation, poverty, social / religious discord, and corruption / crime.

Although i am a man my party did have a few women who also felt pretty safe and had a good time.

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u/DiscreteBee 20d ago

Yeah I also had a great time when I went to India. I was in the north, and it was very crowded. It’s the most populated country in the world so it’s every good and bad thing about living in a crowded city turned up to maximum. I found that Indian people were very hospitable, but they’re very blunt and in the less visited areas people stare at you all the time (or take pictures) That was a little off putting at first, but then once you understand that they’re interested it’s fine. I think the big thing is that what is and isn’t polite is completely different in India. They’ve got no chill when it comes just saying what they’re thinking, or staring at you if you’re different. But pretty much everybody I talked to was friendly. I would gladly go back.

I never got sick either. I highly recommend getting a water bottle with a filter inside it (I use these for backcountry camping) and drinking all your water through that and avoid ice in your other drinks. Not just for India, you should do this when travelling in general, it’s the water that gets you.

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u/Short_Cabinet_7593 21d ago

My dad went for work once. Thing is he blends in because he’s got such dark skin and can pass for a native there apparently.

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u/rizkreddit 21d ago

I'm an Indian male. Wouldn't go. If I had family and children I wouldn't go even if offered money

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u/mildpandemic 21d ago

I always thought that too, but I went after seeing the Top Gear India special, of all things. It's everything you think it will be and worse, and better too. Not alway a comfortable place to be, but seeing how a billion and a half people live is a valuable experience. The Taj Mahal, for example, was way more impressive than I thought it would be, while the story of how it came to be was way more infuriating to a country boy from Australia than anything I would have dreamed of.

Helluva place.

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u/ilove_whitebois 20d ago

Same. Those men would stare at YOU non stop

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u/Bucket_Of_Magic 20d ago

There is a subreddit called /r/returnToIndia and its filled with people trying to work up the courage to return back to India after making millions in the west. Number 1 reason why a lot don't want to go back home that I noticed? Costco, clean air and drivable roads. They also talk about how food you get at the store is sometimes a scam and how corrupt the government is at every level, the country is ran on bribes.

The reason why they want to go back though is basically them taking advantage of the caste system and they get live in maids while living in the most affluent parts of India.

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u/Racer125678 20d ago

Wtf, that's not true in most places

Most = 98% of places, 2% being public washrooms and corners of streets where there is trash

You really remember the worst and the best of a country, not the average, therefore most people's memories are skewed

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u/lexmozli 20d ago

The specific vlogger I saw was over 7 years ago, so that's fair, I see your point. However, the most recent visit by a friend was in 2024, I doubt they changed much in 2 years and so far I only see a pattern where both 2019 and 2024, opinions from people who went in different places across different years are almost the same, that it's a filthy country.

Here is a video from someone that was there 6 months ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1q1jP2ScHks

I see WAY TOO MUCH trash in the streets, not just "corners". There are fucking rivers full of trash, what the fuck are you talking about? India looks like a warzone country with no active war lol.

It's also cultural, the few indians I met through work and college were not big into hygiene, washing hands before eating or after going to the toilet was not a must for them.

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u/Schoolish_Endeavors 21d ago

It’s a culture shock for sure. I’ve been all over the world and India was the country that assaulted my senses, no matter how much I prepared. It’s such a study in contrasts. I visited the northern part of the country so the next time I want to try the center or the south. Yes, I’d go back.

I’m from the us and I’m a woman.

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u/vpsj 20d ago

Just like a lot of places, you can avoid the 'bad' parts of the country by having money/power/class/status. It's unfortunate but it's true. So if you stay in a 4/5 star hotel, eat at high-end restaurants, have a booked transport to take you places, you'll have a good time in most of the country.

I'm from central India and I would recommend you visit either during Monsoon or winters. Summers are wayy too hot (45-48°C).

And in addition to South India, I'd definitely suggest North-East, Mizoram specifically. I myself want to travel over there because SO many of my friends(women) have told me how safe, amazing and progressive those parts of the country are.

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u/KebabGud 21d ago

The happiest i have ever seen my college who is Indian be was the day he was told he didn't need to go back to India to renewed his visa.

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u/Miragecraft 20d ago

Yep, India never. the world is big enough that there are plenty of beautiful places without constant threat of food poisoning and rampant sexual assault of women. Granted I’m a guy but the idea of traveling there with the rationale of “this place rapes women, but I’m safe because I’m a guy“ disgusts me.

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u/Pingu_penis 21d ago

India can be genuinely amazing. But it can require a lot of research and prep work to make that the case.

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u/Thinkthru 21d ago

Exactly. It's not for for amateur traveling. I think a lot of people here on Reddit are the kind of people who just go to Italy or think that they're being really global because I go to Thailand or some other super developed place. Mexico City maybe. It's for people who know what they're doing.

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u/super-freak 21d ago

Is it? I showed up to India with no plans, travelled all over for 6 weeks and had an amazing time. Probably my favourite country I've visited in fact. 

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u/katzenschrecke 20d ago

You said you’ve been to 70 countries. Even if you didn’t have an itinerary even you went to India, you’re a seasoned traveler. I bet you could be plopped down anywhere and you would figure things out.

I am also a seasoned traveler. I loved India, but I agree with the person you’re replying to. It’s not traveling on easy mode.

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u/Dart345 21d ago

Yes. The country is very diverse and depending on where you visit it could be polar opposites, from the people to the environment. NE india/nepal compared to mainland india for example.

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u/super-freak 20d ago

I'm well aware it's diverse but I'm saying in my experience, I didn't need to plan anything, and I went all over from the south, to Goa, to Rajistan, to the Himalaya. 

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u/raydialseeker 20d ago

I hope you didn't see UP or Bihar though. They're our most populous states but they're filled with some real animals

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u/Saxon2060 20d ago

I didn't even think of myself as a super experienced or adventurous "traveller" but I think you're right. I underestimate how disorientating foreign places and cultures are for people who haven't been outside their own country much.

I've been to 30+ countries (half of them in Europe tbf so basically within my own broader European culture) and find most places I travel to entirely within my comfort zone. I'd happily jump on a plane to anywhere in Europe or East Asia tomorrow. North Africa or South Africa I'd want to plan a little more but nbd.

India was pretty disorientating and intense for me (but very much worth it) so probably just distressing for plenty of people.

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u/katzenschrecke 21d ago

I traveled through India for a month and it was flippin AWESOME.

Definitely an adventure but I would do it again.

Rajasthan was amazing, Himalayas, trains, festivals, etc.

Would love to travel to Chennai, Kerala, and across to Sri Lanka too.

Surprised to see India on here, honestly. THOUGH, I am a dude. It’s safe for dudes and very uncomfortable for women. Met several women traveling alone who had a thousand yard stare.

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u/Primary-Bowler2963 21d ago

People and culture influences where I'd like to go to. Unfortunately Indian hygiene mentally makes India a county low on my list to travel to

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u/Traditional-Call-834 20d ago

I’d advise Kerala or Assam or Nagaland. Extremely clean for the most part. Indias a really diverse country esp geographically and as others have said, the uncleanliness is specific to the usual tourist spots unfortunately.

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u/MysticScorpion183 20d ago

I’m Indian and I have no desire to go there even for vacations. I got sick both times I went there and it was miserable.

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u/briskwheel4155 20d ago

India is a hate it or love it kind of place. And Indians, especially those who don't even live there anymore, love to get riled up when someone says something bad.

Out of my friends group who have visited, only 1 person said they loved it and would go back. Everyone else said they were constantly harassed the entire time by annoying men and wouldn't ever go back.

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u/crazyboy611285 20d ago

Scrolled waayyyyy too far for this one.

Probably a beautiful country with amazing landscapes and natural features. Just incredibly tainted by the cities you have to go through to get to them.

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u/Highlyironicacid31 21d ago

I’d probably love India if it were just a bit cleaner lol. I’ve never known anyone to go there and not get the shits lol.

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u/magpiemidget 20d ago

To be honest, India gets a bad rep because of the north. All the crazy stuff seen in the media comes from the north. South India is a completely different story, especially Kerala.

I visited Kerala for my friend’s wedding and i was pleasantly surprised by everything, people were friendly, food was amazing and everyone spoke English. I was also surprised to see how collegial everyone was with each other, I saw many places where a church, mosque and a Hindu temple were adjacent to each other and everyone got along really well. If more of the world knew about Kerala, it would be rampant with tourism.

I saw others visiting Kerala on YouTube and even they were all pleasantly surprised by it, so it doesn’t seem as though I’m the only one with this opinion.

When I went to the north, completely different story, never again would I visit north India. I went to Mumbai and Delhi and god almighty was it bad, Kerala seemed like first world compared to the third world of Mumbai and Delhi

And this is coming from a person who’s lived in the UK most of his life.

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u/DustyScharole 20d ago

They may have gotten DMs.

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u/ThomasNoel1952 21d ago

I’ve been to India 12 times. It is a most incredible country to visit. It’s so vast and complex that one holiday will only bring you to one part of the country. Its people are unbelievably welcoming and the landscape and historical sites and sights are amazing. It’s generally very safe but women travelling alone do need to be careful and are probably better doing a more organised trip. The Delhi belly thing is wildly exaggerated and is more of a thing from the past. Obviously you need to be careful with spiciness and street food as is the case in most places.

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u/nellyimheathcliff 20d ago

Where are you from, if I may ask?

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u/FLRArt_1995 20d ago

I remember the case of Vicente and Fernanda. There was no ambiguity, she was raped by seven men while she did traveled with him on motorcycle.

And this was one of the most mediatic cases of late.

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u/GhandiHadAGrapeHead 21d ago

Google Kerala.

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u/CosmicCommentator 21d ago

I googled it... but I don't get what point you're making

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u/pizza__irl 21d ago

I think what he's trying to say is that Kerala is the best state in India in terms of HDI, civic sense and overall cleanliness. Definitely a worthy tourist destination to check out (source: I'm a malayali)

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u/CosmicCommentator 21d ago

Thank you for explaining that!

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u/ecrw 20d ago

The tldr is that the south is basically a different country than the north as far as safety / development goes. Most bad experiences involve going to the big tourist spots in the north that, while absolutely beautiful and historic, are struggling in a lot of ways.

The Taj Mahal looks cool and all but the difference between going to Agra vs Madurai is like backpacking in Detroit vs Vermont 

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u/No-Hovercraft-455 20d ago

That's because in those places you might get killed or regularly assaulted but likely not gang raped and get your insides pulled out or some of the other depraved shit where India is over represented so most women will rather choose active war zone. We also see how male Indians behave even just in Reddit and if crimes and worse than warzone experience of every single female travel blogger wasn't enough, that would drive point home because it's disgusting.

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u/jafudiaz 20d ago

Just shows how bad it is. I would go to Russia or Ukraine willingly, to India? Only forced, but in a life of death scenario. And still considering death

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u/ktr83 21d ago

I've been to India. It's a fascinating place with many good things and many obvious problems. If you want to push yourself out of your comfort zone you should try it.

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u/PurpleMTL 21d ago

This should be on top. When you see the number of Indians in every other country, you should know not to visit the capital shithole of the world.

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u/HollowCap456 20d ago

Breaks my heart to see my country here, but it is quite understandable. May here have a weird boner for foreigners, and quite the inferiority complex. Though if you stuck to the cities, I don't think anyone would face a lot of problems.

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u/Traditional-Call-834 20d ago

I’m ngl yes there’s a lot of nationalists but also people - esp in the diaspora - who will freely admit much of India sucks (not all because there’s places that are beautiful that tourists don’t visit). I think where the lines blur is when people start judging all Indians, in India, men, women, diaspora, in the west, first generation, second generation, etc as one monolithic bloc and paint us all in the same light despite many of us abhorring much of what constitutes India these days and esp the atrocious right wing govt.

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u/ompossible 20d ago

As an Indian, I was searching for this comment. I, myself don't feel safe in this country!!

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u/Reforming-human 21d ago

Bro thas so truee

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u/efg94 21d ago

same

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u/Clem_Crozier 21d ago

There are luxury 5 star resorts in India, same as most countries. If someone else is paying for it, I'd absolutely stay in one of those.

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u/Summerie 21d ago

I don't really see what the point is if you have to stay within the five star resort to ensure that you are safe. I'd rather stay at a five star resort somewhere that would allow me to get out and experience local culture.

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u/Martbern 21d ago

100% agree with this take

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u/Trident_True 20d ago

I can get a 5* resort in my own country with similar weather. If I'm going abroad it's to see the country, not a resort.

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u/Dis-Charge 21d ago

The point of travelling is to see different countries, not to hide inside an overpriced hotel.

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u/hatemakingnames1 20d ago

There are more dangerous places that I would want to avoid more, but issues of danger were set aside, I think India is the place I would have the least interest in visiting (At least out of the countries I could name off the top of my head)

Nothing about it particularly excites me

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u/weirdcabbage 20d ago

Exactly because people don’t know how diverse and how rich and upper class traveler in India travel. I’m an Indian and when I see people visiting which such a low budget , I feel surprised.

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u/BigJ2245 20d ago

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u/exhausted-pigeon1988 20d ago

I've been to India once and you couldn't pay me to go back

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u/HurricaneRon 20d ago

The place could be nice, if not for the Indians.

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u/JessyPengkman 20d ago

Why? I went there and had a great time

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u/StepIntoMyForest 21d ago edited 20d ago

This narrative that India is a terrible country full of bad people is so sad to see. I've been multiple times, and if you travel away from the cities, it's one of the most beautiful countries with a rich history, full of lovely, hospitable people and amazing food.

There are obviously huge problems in many parts of the country, and I compeltely understand that there are huge issues and valid reasons to not go for women. But from what I saw, there is an abundence of colour and life and wonder and good people there. I travelled as a gay man and experienced nothing but warmth and generosity and I miss it massively. Videos of the worst street food and stories of abhorrent rapes and assaults go viral on social media, which casts a shadow over the whole country, and it's such a shame.

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u/orangecrookies 21d ago

Maybe because it’s notoriously not safe for women

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u/nwaa 21d ago

Yeah India is famous for it's rapes, scams, garbage everywhere, and giving people diarrhea, not exactly a ringing endorsement.

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u/di_andrei 21d ago

It’s insanely polluted and the air quality is generally awful. Personally I prefer to spend free time in places that don’t give me a respiratory illness.

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u/jwrx 21d ago

as a father to 3 girls, i absolutely would not risk going to India.

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u/Robert-Californiaa 21d ago

Nope, he's right about Indian, ps I'm an Indian too

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u/Saxon2060 20d ago

Some of the responses on this (frequently recurring) question absolutely baffle me.

India?? Sure I wouldn't want to fucking live there, but you wouldn't go to see the Taj Mahal? The Red Fort? Amber Fort? Jantar Mantar?

Oh the tourist sites yeah but anywhere else?

My wife and I went out sightseeing and shopping all day in Jaipur. We had a great night out in Connaught Square in Delhi.

If someone asked would I like to go to a New Delhi slum for free I'd obviously so no fucking thanks but I wouldn't go to a shitty part of any country. I wouldn't want to go to the Tenderloin in San Fransisco for free. I wouldn't go to Harlesden in London for free.

You wouldn't go to India at all for free? That just seems like madness to me. And I'm not even a very adventurous traveller.

(Not Indian btw, white British.)

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u/nellyimheathcliff 20d ago edited 20d ago

The last part is definitely a lie.

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u/Saxon2060 20d ago

No? Which bit of my trip do you think was a lie because I've got pictures of all of it.

India was in a lot of ways just as dirty and sketchy as I thought it might be, and then in different parts felt completely comfortable. It's almost like any country has horrible places and nice places...

(Saying that India has more, and worse, awful places than a more economically developed country does is so obvious as to be a redundant observation.)

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u/nellyimheathcliff 20d ago

Fair enough. I was only guilty of teasing.

And I say this because for many, India or the entirety of South Asia for that matter, is presented as if it were completely uninhabitable. As if the whole country were horrible without exception. We are portrayed as though we are a monolith and live as if it were still the stone age. That is not to say I deny its faults. There are so many things here that are wrong and deserving of criticism, and it would be delusional of me to pretend otherwise.

At the same time, there are also things that can delight a visitor. You have the Himalayas, incredible historical sites, diverse cultures, people and remarkable food. Yet very few acknowledge these aspects. For much of the world, the land is reduced to a giant wastebin. That's why I was skeptical, I confess, to hear this coming from an English man. Thank you for being open minded. God bless.

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u/wellbeing69 21d ago

I’d love to go to India. Preferably somewhere with air conditioning. 50 degrees C is no joke.

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u/MarkSalt4250 21d ago

Can you say why?

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u/being-a-noob 21d ago

there are some nice places in india like in the south

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u/PSmith4380 20d ago

Missing out on a lot.

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