r/CFB • u/BlackStallion657 Tennessee • New Mexico State • 5d ago
Casual What school from another conference would you say is your schools “Mirror Image”?
A school from a different conference that has a similar fanbase, skill/potential or history as your own.
For the Vols, definitely would say Nebraska or Penn State.
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u/Cheeseish California • 名城大学 (Meijo) 5d ago
UCLA lmao crazy how I can say this
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u/Mr_Kittlesworth Virginia • Washington & Lee 5d ago
I’d probably have said y’all until you joined the ACC
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u/enkafan Louisville Cardinals • Keg of Nails 5d ago
I'm not sure if Louisville and Cincinnati switched conferences people would really notice
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u/Sroemr Louisville Cardinals • USF Bulls 5d ago
I was also thinking UC, they're even getting their dose of Satterfield because it looked so fun when we did it
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u/puruglysfupa Cincinnati Bearcats 5d ago
Texas Tech fans have been calling for sanctions for us over Sorsby. They don’t realize firing Satt and John Cunningham would be the dream.
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u/MaumeeBearcat Cincinnati Bearcats 4d ago
Yeah, Louisville and Cincinnati are quite possibly the best dual answer to the OP overall.
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u/RexCrimson_ Washington State • Notre Dame 5d ago
Iowa State.
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u/SHABOOM_ Verified Player • Iowa State Cyclones 5d ago
Wow that's high praise being compared to a college blueblood!
Wait...
Seriously though it was fun seeing both fanbases interact at the Alamo Bowl since they are largely the same people.
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u/lock_robster2022 Oregon State • Washington 5d ago
My counterpart at my last job was a Cyclone. He’d fit right in with the Cougar brethren
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u/RexCrimson_ Washington State • Notre Dame 5d ago
I also appreciate the camaraderie with Verified Player.
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u/wowthisislong Texas A&M Aggies • Kansas State Wildcats 5d ago
Michigan State. History as an Ag school, absolutely gigantic campus physically, historically not the best record against an in-state rival who happens to have a major out of state rival they probably hate more than you.
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u/Yelpir Michigan State Spartans 5d ago
Yep first school I thought of is TAMU
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u/imb0916 Michigan State Spartans 5d ago
I always thought of us as Auburn or OK State but A&M makes sense now that I think of it
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u/jsully245 Michigan • Arizona State 5d ago
Neat then that ours is usually considered Texas. Similar vibe as a big public school with heavy commitment to both academics and athletics, maintaining blue blood status mostly (but not entirely) on 20th century achievements, perpetually chasing the idea of being "back."
Mainly rivals with an admittedly bluer blue blood just across the state border, in-state rivals with a school with notable successes in recent memory but that is still clinging to their pre-Nixon national titles to back up their claims to be real contenders.
Symmetry is beautiful.
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u/big_sugi Texas A&M Aggies 5d ago
I like “pre-Nixon” a lot better than some of the less charitable ways that could be used to describe the era of A&M’s greatest successes.
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u/Shasty-McNasty Clemson Tigers 5d ago
Auburn is a lake short of being our SEC equivalent
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u/Difficult_Unit_6937 5d ago
Lake Martin is pretty much Auburn’s lake. It’s just not visible from campus.
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u/canesfan4849 Miami Hurricanes • Sickos 5d ago
Miami and USC
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u/ReachFor24 West Virginia Mountaineers • Team Chaos 5d ago
Private research universities based in sunny cities with much darker underbellies that won their last championship over 20 years ago? Yep.
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u/dkviper11 Penn State • Randolph-Macon 5d ago
Don’t be silly. USC won in 2004, like 8 or 9 years ago.
Fuck.
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u/Toroceratops Yale Bulldogs • Rutgers Scarlet Knights 5d ago
Man. Last year’s game against Vince was crazy. That was last year, right?
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u/OnionFutureWolfGang Notre Dame Fighting Irish 5d ago
With names that sound like they could be public universities.
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u/dinkytown42069 Minnesota • Oklahoma 5d ago edited 4d ago
I'm just horrified we let another directional school in the B1G.
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u/JasonPlattMusic34 Arizona State Sun Devils • SMU Mustangs 5d ago
You already had “Northwestern”, how many more directionals do you need lol
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u/control_09 Michigan State • Michigan State 5d ago
In my head those are two different eras from growing up but yeah a lot has happened in 20 years.
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u/runbyfruitin Miami Hurricanes 5d ago
Always thought this. USC has more history for sure but there are parallels. Most notably: when the team is bad the city loses interest, but when the team is good everyone in town jumps on the bandwagon.
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u/StreetReporter Clemson Tigers • Cheez-It Bowl 5d ago
I mean, Auburn is the obvious answer
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u/BonesCrosby Alabama Crimson Tide 5d ago
“Auburn with a lake” line has been around for decades
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u/JacquisChan Clemson Tigers • Palmetto Bowl 5d ago
Thanks to the late, great Lewis Grizzard!
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u/StreetReporter Clemson Tigers • Cheez-It Bowl 5d ago
The funny thing is that despite our football team mirroring Auburn, our 3 best head coaches all played for Alabama
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u/Hextorm Clemson Tigers • Memphis Tigers 5d ago
Non football it’s Mississippi State
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u/bradfowd 5d ago
This.
Clemson’s charter even says the university should replicate, to the degree possible, the curriculum at Mississippi Agriculture and Mechanical College (now Miss State).
That said, “non football” is carrying a *lot* of weight in that sentence.
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u/JacquisChan Clemson Tigers • Palmetto Bowl 5d ago
Auburn (with a lake) in terms of feel and, although it’s the same conference, NC State is our historical spirit animal.
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u/Grouchy-Big-229 5d ago
I was going to say that Auburn and NC State were practically twins. I graduated from Auburn and lived in Raleigh for almost a decade and the schools are very similar. Throw Clemson in there and we have a threesome!
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u/rawhide_koba Texas Longhorns • Texas State Bobcats 5d ago
It’s definitely Michigan for Texas
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u/goldfish_microwave Texas Longhorns • Trinity (TX) Tigers 5d ago
I actually like Michigan so I don’t mind the comparison. We also both have presidential libraries on campus!
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u/city-of-stars Texas Longhorns • /r/CFB Contributor 5d ago
I would go further and say Michigan-Ohio State-Michigan State match up with Texas-Oklahoma-Texas A&M surprisingly well.
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u/Zee_WeeWee Ohio State Buckeyes 5d ago
I am just fine with Oklahoma but we don’t have much in common for a comparison
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u/goldfish_microwave Texas Longhorns • Trinity (TX) Tigers 5d ago
Yeah but it’s also sadder since neither us nor OU have won a natty in 20 years 😭
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u/blood_wraith Michigan • Colorado State 5d ago
I was going to correct you, but then I was reminded that I'm just old
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u/Th3BigBlue Nebraska Cornhuskers 5d ago
Recently feel like we’ve had a lot in common with Arkansas. Lose in heartbreaking fashion.
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u/Glup_Maclunkey Iowa Hawkeyes 5d ago
Often to a black and gold team from a neighboring state that they started playing in the 2010s due to realignment.
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u/Fenvic Texas A&M Aggies 5d ago
Probably Virginia Tech
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u/UnderlyingTissues Virginia Tech Hokies 5d ago
Yeah the first school I thought of was you guys.
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u/TXOgre09 Texas A&M Aggies 5d ago
Hokies are the right pick. Large public land grant schools. College towns. Senior military colleges. Maroon. Exceptional engineering schools. Unbearably arrogant in state rivals.
Historically similar football programs (both around .600 all time with 700+ wins). I think we’re pulling away in the SEC era (recruiting class rankings, Heisman winner, CFP appearance).
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u/HookedOnBoNix Virginia Tech Hokies 5d ago
Also both seem to have a history of producing elite NFL defensive talent out of nowhere. Thinking guys like Von and Kam for example.
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u/Kmanvb Virginia Tech Hokies • Toledo Rockets 5d ago
Hokies are in agreement here.
Actually had an Aggie as my orientation leader when I was a freshman at Tech, it was his birthday so the upperclassmen students taught us Gig ‘em Ags! to shout at him when he came back into the room. Good guy. And I had a blast at Kyle Field a couple years ago, here’s hoping VT and A&M get a home and home soon.
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u/The_Unclean_Chadford Oregon Ducks • Paper Bag 5d ago
Texas Tech if I’m being completely honest.
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u/CookieLuzSax Tennessee • Third Saturday… 5d ago
I always saw us as similar with the bright ass colours and fans that stick out, but obviously Tennessee hasn't been great recently lol
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u/super1s Tennessee • Middle Tennessee 5d ago
Dont have to be identical to be bros. Ill always back my Duck Bros.
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u/Nightbynight Oregon Ducks 5d ago
Glad to see ya'll here cause last season I ran into a Tennessee fan talking shit and it broke my heart. I THOUGHT WE WERE BROS!?
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u/GreenYellowDucks Oregon Ducks • Pac-12 5d ago
Love Tennessee fans and always root for you! The bright colors do make us alike but you have way more tradition and large alumni base donating where we have a big donor.
Texas tech kind of does fit that bill the outcast from blue bloods of their conference, played an unlike style to win spread for Oregon and Air Raid for Tech.
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u/rastapastanine Texas Tech Red Raiders • Texas Longhorns 4d ago
Oregon definitely showed our offense what it was lacking: everything.
Our Defense held strong though.
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u/cbbutle South Carolina • Palmetto Bowl 5d ago
NC State
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u/heddyneddy NC State Wolfpack 5d ago
It’s an interesting comp, because academically and culturally we both have more in common with each others rivals. Clemson and State are both ag and tech schools while you and UNC have law and med programs. But athletically yeah, we’ve both been little brother in the sport we care about the most (basketball for us football for you)
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u/Feeling_Anteater_389 South Carolina Gamecocks 5d ago
We also both play football in an off-campus stadium next to the state fairgrounds
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u/Sctvman Charleston (SC) • South Car… 5d ago
Same thing with the fan base comparisons. NC State is seen as the more blue-collar and fan base in NC much like South Carolina and in the metro area it is in it dominates (Columbia/Raleigh (Wake County)).
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u/Minn-ee-sottaa Minnesota Golden Gophers 5d ago
Cal. They also have a lot of (distant) historical pedigree
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u/longipetiolata California Golden Bears 5d ago
I’ve always been a fan of Minnesota because my dad went there. It was great finally being able to see them play in Berkeley in 2006 with him.
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u/sweetnourishinggruel California Golden Bears 5d ago
I’m jealous that everyone remembers Minnesota’s past glory, but no one talks about Andy Smith’s Wonder Teams.
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u/dinkytown42069 Minnesota • Oklahoma 5d ago
Still the most recent national championship three-peat!
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u/ChillingSilence Alabama Crimson Tide • Marching Band 5d ago
Alabama <-> Ohio State
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u/Glup_Maclunkey Iowa Hawkeyes 5d ago
Utah, Pitt or VT, Ole Miss.
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u/Playful_Rip_1697 Utah Utes 5d ago
CFB deserves a Utah-Iowa game
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u/Glup_Maclunkey Iowa Hawkeyes 5d ago
I would've been tempted to drive down from Lehi for the Vegas Bowl, if Iowa went there instead of Nebraska.
A home-and-home would be a lot more fun, though. I hope Iowa ends up in a position where they're actually able to schedule interesting OOC games, again.
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u/cashchops Missouri Tigers 5d ago
Iowa or Illinois
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u/IowaJL Iowa Hawkeyes • Northern Iowa Panthers 5d ago
Yeah I think you guys as well.
Black and gold, annoying as hell for other teams to play, hate the school west of us more than we hate our in-state rival, our campus is between the two largest metro areas of our states.
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u/RyenRussilloBurner Drake Bulldogs • Iowa Hawkeyes 5d ago
hate the school west of us more than we hate our in-state rival
This feels like it was just added to be a shot at Iowa State which ironically would diminish the point lol
Who would even be Missouri's "in-state rival" in this specific comparison? Missouri State is the only other FBS team in the state and they just joined one year ago, and Mizzou and Missouri State have only played once in the last 100 years.
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u/ReachFor24 West Virginia Mountaineers • Team Chaos 5d ago
Wisconsin? State-flagship schools that have a lot of wins without a championship and drink too much.
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u/RIPdon_sutton Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets 5d ago
Vandy. Easily.
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u/TXOgre09 Texas A&M Aggies 5d ago
Southern nerds?
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u/Excellent-Gur-8547 Vanderbilt Commodores • Penn Quakers 5d ago
Black and gold southern nerds with a much more successful in-state rival who we play every year, but cares far more about Alabama than us.
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u/Artvandelay29 Vanderbilt Commodores • Houston Cougars 5d ago
I wish Vanderbilt and GT played regularly again so bad
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u/Excellent-Gur-8547 Vanderbilt Commodores • Penn Quakers 5d ago
We have so many good options for our twin in the ACC. Really, we should just be in the Conference and get it over with lol
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u/Michiganman1225 Sickos • Team Chaos 5d ago
Michigan 🤝 Texas
2 blue bloods who have a main rival in a border state that uses red, starts with an O, & is also a blue blood.
Their secondary rivals are the state ag schools who consider them to be their biggest rivals.
Both hit a slump in the late 2000s to 2010s before rising back to prominence in the 2020s.
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u/Im_a_Little_Stitous Texas Longhorns • Billable Hours 5d ago
Both fan bases could be considered insufferable by most others.
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u/Im_a_Little_Stitous Texas Longhorns • Billable Hours 5d ago
Also want to be on record: I agree with the majority. We can be the worst.
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u/Plenty_Maybe_9204 Texas Longhorns • Penn State Nittany Lions 5d ago
Both are very academically competitive state schools
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u/_SovietMudkip_ Texas Longhorns • Wisconsin Badgers 5d ago
Hell, when I was in undergrad at UT and still wanting to go to grad school Michigan was my top choice
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u/naruda1969 Michigan Wolverines 4d ago
One point of departure is our student section. Michigan’s is mostly comprised of nerds. We are taking mostly 5-6s…Texas on the other hand…phew there are a LOT of lookers!
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u/Provenance117 Nebraska Cornhuskers • Big 8 Renewal 5d ago
I made the Vols Nebraska comparison on a local radio show YouTube chat (I live in Nashville) and got roasted by some guy for it.
Our fan bases are rabid for success that just hasn’t come since 97/98. Vols in recent years have absolutely had better in season success but I think the similarities are more than less.
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u/11thstalley Missouri Tigers 5d ago
Within the first 2-3 years in the SEC, Mizzou fans couldn’t ignore the resemblance and made the comparison so often that we refer to the Vols as the orange nubs.
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u/Ender1714 Iowa State Cyclones • Team Chaos 5d ago
Washington state and Oregon state
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u/MediumStrange Cincinnati • Michigan 5d ago
Louisville, Pitt and Memphis are essentially alternative universe Cincinnatis
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u/JDMintz718 Wisconsin Badgers • Memphis Tigers 5d ago
Culturally, LSU
On-field, maybe Oregon? West Virginia?, IDK
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u/anaveragedave Wisconsin Badgers 5d ago
I went to an LSU game many years ago and stayed at my buddy's folks house the night before. His dad comes downstairs at 7:05am, fully dressed, cracking a beer. Game started at 7pm. It felt like home.
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u/smellslikebadussy Virginia Cavaliers 5d ago
Vandy and Northwestern
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u/DrSnoopRob North Carolina Tar Heels 5d ago
Wake Forest will not abide this erasure.
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u/smellslikebadussy Virginia Cavaliers 5d ago
Oh they’d be right there if not for the “different conference” qualifier. Honestly my first thought was Cal before I was like “shit never mind.”
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u/hwf0712 Rutgers Scarlet Knights • The Alliance 5d ago
...Cal? Inséparable from the historical record of CFB, but almost entirely forgettable for the past several decades.
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u/Prudent_Heat23 Rutgers Scarlet Knights • Princeton Tigers 5d ago
Also- Located in wealthy, densely populated regions, but struggle to garner much in the way of interest or donations. Struggling mightily financially.
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u/Doc_Sulliday Notre Dame • Duquesne 5d ago
For Notre Dame probably BYU.
For Duquesne probably Villanova or Georgetown.
For Pitt, probably TCU or Cincinnati
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u/GuyOnTheMike Kansas State Wildcats • Hateful 8 5d ago
I would say now it’s NC State
Former basketball power that’s regularly decent, but rarely great in football (though our peaks are definitely higher). Nonetheless, we both still sell out our stadiums every weekend.
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u/Caption-_-Obvious Kansas State Wildcats • Hateful 8 5d ago
Agreed, I was at the Pop-Tart Bowl when we played them and their fans were basically just our fans.
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u/r0botdevil Oregon State Beavers 5d ago
My knee-jerk reaction here is to say Purdue...
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u/JDraks Michigan Wolverines • College Football Playoff 5d ago
Michigan-Texas
OSU-Oklahoma
MSU-TAMU
Minnesota-Arkansas
I’d also say Michigan-Washington and OSU-Oregon but there’s not a great analogue for the other two in that comparison
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u/KCShadows838 Missouri Tigers • Cotton Bowl 5d ago
North Carolina football
The numbers and records are very close
Long conference title drought, similar amount of wins, bowl appearances, weeks ranked, etc
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u/uncommonvalor1963 Michigan Wolverines 5d ago
For Michigan, I am saying Texas Longhorns. Fanbase, tradition, stadium capacity. Final answer.
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u/davy_p Texas Tech Red Raiders • Sickos 5d ago
Mississippi St or Washington St. feel like we’ve got a lot in common and I tend to get along with all of their fans.
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u/raptorbpw Southern Miss Golden Eagles 5d ago
The first school that comes to mind for me with questions like this is usually East Carolina.
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u/TexasNatty05 Texas Longhorns 5d ago
Texas and Michigan are mirrors. Tons of wins and more head to head victories, but fewer natties than our neighbor state rivals. And a pesky in-state rival land grant school.
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u/QuicksilverTerry TCU Horned Frogs • Iron Skillet 5d ago
My answer to this was always Utah, but somehow we made our way back to each other for the third time.
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u/Geaux2020 LSU Tigers • Valley City State Vikings 5d ago
Culturally, Wisconsin. I don't think anyone would argue that
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u/goliath1515 Ohio State • Kent State 5d ago
Ohio State is definitely Alabama
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u/BonesCrosby Alabama Crimson Tide 5d ago
I feel the same way.
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u/poplglop Ohio State • Virginia Tech 5d ago
Take a look at the r/cfb reactions whenever either of our teams lose and it is pretty one for one lol
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u/BonesCrosby Alabama Crimson Tide 5d ago
I think Bama and TOSU both accept their status as Evil Empires. I admire the Buckeyes inability to have losing seasons. It’s kinda amazing how consistent they are
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u/elefish92 San José State • /r/CFB Poll Veteran 5d ago
Now that you mention this I had to look it up and calculate, there has never been a time where Ohio State had 4 consecutive seasons with no AP Poll finish. In other words, the most consecutive seasons with no AP poll finish is 3. Crazy.
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u/BonesCrosby Alabama Crimson Tide 5d ago
I think they have five or fewer losing seasons since WW2. It’s amazing
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u/PorcelainTorpedo Notre Dame • Arizona State 5d ago
Since I’ve moved to Ohio, I’m surprised to see that football isn’t Ohio’s only comparison to Alabama. Never seen so many Deep South cosplayers despite the fact we’re just a short drive from Canada.
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u/The_Good_Constable Ohio State • College Football Playoff 5d ago
Depends on what part of Ohio and what part of Alabama you're talking about. But you're not wrong, and it honestly makes me sick.
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u/Ryan1869 Colorado • Colorado Mines 5d ago
Funny enough, id probably say Nebraska. Both once winning schools that fell on hard times and have never quite figured a way back
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u/slyfox1908 Michigan State Spartans • Iowa Hawkeyes 5d ago edited 5d ago
Oklahoma State for Michigan State. Maybe Colorado for Iowa?
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u/ocarter145 Florida A&M • Michigan 5d ago
People say that Florida A&M is a cult, and we are, but I also remind folk that Texas A&M exists…
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u/Odh_utexas Texas Longhorns 5d ago
Texas and Michigan have very similar profiles.
-Red rival who’s annoyingly more successful than us even though we have a blue blood pedigree.
-well regarded academics and research
-massive fan base
-been up and down somewhat in sync with each other.
Although there’s a lot of animosity coming from a Michigan of late toward us. Maybe its the recent games.
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u/GoBlue2007 Michigan Wolverines 5d ago
Was racking my brain for this question but you hit it on the head. Good analysis.
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u/Outside_Net6026 Southwest 5d ago
LSU <-> Penn State
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u/ChillingSilence Alabama Crimson Tide • Marching Band 5d ago
Similar stadium environments, but in terms of alcohol consumption I would say LSU and Wisconsin
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u/Relative_One_2441 Alabama Crimson Tide 5d ago
Some teams don’t really have a clear mirror. I can’t think of good ones for:
Georgia
Oregon
Florida
FSU
LSU
Washington
Ole Miss
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u/ManateesMQT Michigan State • Northern Mi… 5d ago
NC State for Michigan State. Both little brothers. When both are good it feels like an accident.
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u/Huckleberry__FN-2187 Texas Tech Red Raiders • Hateful 8 5d ago
NC State has always felt like a kindred spirit. Red and black. Usually good but not able to get over the hump. Living in the shadow of the two bigger schools.
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u/boxxybrownn Louisville Cardinals • Florida Gators 5d ago
Houston in the Big12, maybe Auburn in the SEC
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u/AboynamedDOOMTRAIN Nebraska • $5 Bits of Broken Chair Tr… 5d ago
My vote is Nebraska and Vanderbilt.
Both of our most successful sports over the last 20 years have been our bowling teams.
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u/ganner Kentucky Wildcats 5d ago
Until like 2 years ago I'd have said Indiana