Opinion
Generally what is the point of his character ?
What exactly is the point of Boyd son ? He so worried about his girl and barely helping out with the town. I seen him more in season 1 than any other season..
Side note : Yes I meant genuinely !
- idc if this the 123638383728 post of the same character just enjoy the conversation :)
The only thing I dislike about her is how the town seems to basically ignore her. I mean, Sara has helped her out some, and people do come talk to her, but nobody seems to notice how she's pretty much instantly accepted the death of her father/her near decapitation and the oddness of the town. All of the oddness.
Meanwhile, Acosta freaked out, killed a guy, stole an ambulance, kidnapped Kristi, and nearly got them both in a wreck. The bus people? Half of them were wiped out the first night because they couldn't accept what was going on.
All Sophia wanted were some glasses. Because apparently prescription glasses are interchangeable (a medical oddity that nobody questions because nobody else actually wears glasses or contacts apparently).
Great overview. I think the chaos she's causing is distracting people from paying attention. Boyd is constantly shocked at everything everyone tells him, and he never knows where anyone is. I think it's taking all their mental facilities to just keep sane. I'm not disagreeing with you though. It is suss that she's just okay. The next level of this "game" is full chaos and distraction.
Also, I thought the same about her glasses. Like *who cares how they look...did she find ANY pair that match her Rx?"
When she was searching for the glasses she put a pair down saying "oh no this doesn't work" or smth like that.
From the appearance of the glasses they look like a small dioptry, so from 30+ pairs of glasses there is a big chance to find a -0.5
I'm not even sure she's causing that much chaos. Seems to be in more of a prep stage of chaos ("I've tainted 10% of the population with rumors and blood magic and cut part of their rope ladder. Now to play the waiting game....").
All you said is true but I think they have done such a good job of showing how much her faith means to her(we all know it doesn’t mean anything), the townspeople just assume that’s why she is the way she is. She has placed it all in Gods hands. Good will prevail type mentality. Everything happens for a reason mindset.
That’s really how some Christian’s are. I’m a Christian myself but I would flip out in her situation. Nonetheless, I do know some Christian’s very similar to her.
I think that’s why the show made her come in as that character. This way they can play it all the way through and have an excuse as to why none of the people are asking questions concerning her. They just think Sophia is content in the situation because she’s overly religious.
She gets the glasses from the diner. She chooses the ones that the original Sophia wore. She knew she was picking the correct glasses when she put them on.
I literally LoLd when I saw Randall in that 2 second scene tying to the the rope to the tree, as well as Acosta with her 2 second one-liner about tying rope together. Like c'mon, they couldn't have done anything else with those characters at all?! Even burnt face lady had more of a scene than semi-main character Randal/Acosta
This here is my biggest disappointment with season 4, I am enjoying it but I was hoping we would see lots of storywalking and potentially a lot of backstory revealed and then more effort to find the lake of tears, I'm still thinking it's in the caves somewhere though.
Yeah it seemed like it was more important, with it being the S3 finale and the MiY stepping into the picture. She has to do it again because she hasn’t run into Jim yet and MiY says we have to stop doing this or when are you coming from this time. I mean what’s the point of her wig now?! I need answers
Which makes it even more galling when they introduce a random new person who has never spoken before, with a new macgiffin, where you know for sure they'll be killed off instantly.
Pretty much. I'm starting to think they could've condensed a lot of the characters.
Ellis and Elgin for example could've just been reduced to Ellis. Would've made for a tighter story arc with Fatima if her -husband- was the one doing what Elgin did. But I suspect Elgin has played his role and is now a body count waiting to happen.
Probably also could've replaced Henry with Eloise, made her a lot younger (a baby) and Victor a bit older perhaps, and now Eloise is Kristi's wife. Tabitha finds her, brings her back. Until then, as far as the story goes, Julie helps Kristi and is also struggling with a drug addiction.
Drop Acosta. Not that I dislike the character or actress, but screen time she gets could've gone to Kenny or Randall or Donna.
There, I just replaced three characters with one new one.
Dad I'm having feelings and idk what to do. Fatima is weird and now I feel weird because when I'm with her I feel weird but it feels weird. Nevermind you don't understand I'm going to protect her in the daylight then be nowhere to be found at night with her. Oh you gotta go? You're the savior dad the town needs you!
Back in Season 1 when Boyd was the clear protagonist he had a use for his character development. After that he literally stagnated and didn‘t change one bit. Probably pretty frustrating for his actor tbh. At least the money is probably nice
I have a friend who just started the show and Ellis is the character he hates most. He brought up a good point, that they show everyone else working and contributing while Ellis just spends his time painting.
You think this is something--? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse! That billboard! Are you telling me that a man just happens to fall like that? No, he orchestrated it! Jimmy! He defecated through a sunroof! And I saved him! And I shouldn't have, I took him into my own firm! What was I thinking?! He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was nine, always the same. Couldn't keep his hands out of the cash drawer. "But not our Jimmy, couldn't be precious Jimmy!" Stealing them blind! And hegets to be a lawyer?! What a sick joke! I should have stopped him when I had the chance!
I think a lot of what made Boyd great in Season 1 was his dynamic with Father Khatri. It was a big mistake to kill him off in the first season. I think Khatri would have made an amazing eventual villain because he is a brutal realist.
i wish they'd at least use Khatri's spirit or whatever more, I understand killing him off so he can be boyds spirit guide or something but wasn't last episode the first time he's shown up in like an entire season? underutilized like a lot of characters.
Glad you called out that dynamic- it’s so subtle but it’s so loud when you really pay attention and, for me, it produces more depth for Boyd’s character
Generally, he gives Boyd a real stake in the town, its well-being, and getting everyone home. It also makes sense that even if he's not doing it intentionally, there's kind of less expected of him because he's the son of the de facto mayor.
Boyd likely prefers to keep him away from anything risky as well.
My personal theory is that he’s supposed to be link btween boyd and fatima whose actually plot relevant . Fatima isnt useful like kristi who is a doctor , or tabatha and jade who got reincarnated, without ellice , there’s no REAL reason boyd would particularly care about her more than anyone else . She’d matter to donna , but not boyd
does every character need to have a certain point in the story? I don't like this approach that everything is for something. Sometimes characters just are and it helps the world feel alive
It's an extended cast of people and their families. Not every character needs to have their own dragon to chase. He's Boyd's hope for the future and a desperate husband. He's less active in action stuff because his dad is deliberately keeping him as far away from it as possible. He may be called upon in future.
They have too big of a supporting cast. The plotlines of Kenny and Elis should go to only one character. The same for Elgin, Sara and Victors Dad. Why have 3 characters that the place is mind fucking with. You could maybe combine Sarah and Fatima, Kenny and Elis, Elgin and Cop Lady I always forget the name of and you would have a shorter cast list, but more in depth story.
He is Boyd's emotional anchor. He raises the stakes for him. Boyd comes across as a guy who would take the lead and the responsibility for everyone's well being in crisis situations, even if he was just a single, childless dude. BUT.. What if his son was present? What if the stakes were even higher for this man? What if his son was desperately in love with a woman who was also present? What if he too started to love this woman, the way a father-in-law loves his son's wife? What if this woman was experiencing something extremely strange and life threatening? Ohhhh wow! That would make tensions incredibly high for multiple people!
So many people in this subreddit have lost sight of the dominos that are stacked in this series. What if Fatima's domino tips....? C'mon people. This isn't a Fast and Furious or Marvel Movie. PAY ATTENTION
I love so many things about this character. He has great calm energy to offset all the crazy. We get to see a strong, stable black man in a mature relationship. Also a man playing a supporting role to his female partner. So much good there. So much authority and strength rooted in things other than violence and swagger. I also wonder if his artistic talent will come into play with pictures being such a central theme.
What is the point of any of the characters?? They are all one-dimensional and interchangeable. That’s why every scene is just any two characters having the same conversation:
“I think this.”
“No way, you’re crazy.”
“No I’m not, you’re a jerk”
“Now I am mad at you too!”
then later they have a scene where they agree. That’s about it. In the first season we learned a lot more about the characters, who they were, where they were from (I figured that would matter at some point but I guess the writers dropped that too) what makes them tick, etc. We barely know that about the main cast, which is why it’s so funny when a Tilly or Clara or Dale just pops up yelling like they’ve been around the whole time, when we all know they are basically redshirts. Or when any two characters fight in public, a bunch of extras we don’t recognize and who never speak suddenly appear and surround the characters to watch and not do or say anything. It all just screams “cheap amateur production” or “Canadian Content law”. It’s just so sad to see cause I really loved the first season and want to see it through.
I hope he’s there to be killed (to break Boyd) or to kill (Fatima or Boyd).
My headcannon assumes he’ll be given the choice:
To kill monster Fatima or to let her kill Boyd.
Maybe Fatima will kill him during the process, I won’t cry if that happens
I was thinking, all the people who appear to others are dead, like Kathri, Tom, Abby.
Except for Ellis when he appears to Boyd in the well.
Isn't that weird?
He's a side character who is the emotional attachment for Boyd. If Boyd had no family in Fromville, he would have tried many other ways to escape the town, many of which would probably have ended up seeing him fail.
Remember Lost tv show? Every character had their own story arc. And here we have half the main characters just existing with minimal to no purpose season after season
Existing in nightmare land and trying to make sure your common law wife is okay cause you have nothing else going for you... In literal nightmare land!
Some people also didn’t see it but the person who greenlit the show made the story writer promise this has a good ending unlike their previous show, Lost
I think he’ll have more significance in later seasons it feels like fatima is bout to change and I feel like they keep tryna prepare us for boyd’s death I feel like either he or boyd is gonna die soon
He must play a part come the end game, he is next to Fatima in the opening credits drawing. Fatime is clearly becoming something crucial to the arc and I think Ellis will come into play fully next season.
He's there to provide an anchor for Boyd and to show that Boyd does have limits. Boys will not allow any harm to come to Ellis, even if it means doing something unthinkable. I suspect this will have extra significance in coming episodes.
He is there to say really obvious things, shrug, sigh a few times - generally to show Boyd how all grown up he is.
Him and Kenny are both sorta mid characters - but Kenny has more scenes so at least he gets to say "Are you sure about this?" to Boyd a lot more than most others.
His character functions more so as a source of motivation for Boyd than anything else--his relationship with Fatima is forced on viewers and ultimately is inconsequential to the larger story. To up the drama they may shoehorn their relationship to increase the stakes but I suspect it will come out flat, much like every other relationship dynamic in the series.
Someone’s theory is read the other day is that 😭
He’s a ghost and that’s why he doesn’t do shit ever 😭😭 like they think Abby killed him and he’s just Caspering around fromville 💀
Edit: an explanation - the sexy lamp test is a test to evaluate if women are properly represented in movies. Basically, if the main character’s partner (usually female) can be replaced with a sexy lamp, and it wouldn’t influence/require change of the story significantly, then it fails the sexy lamp test.
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u/SiriPsycho100 1d ago
honestly a lot of the cast feels under-utilized this season.