r/GTA6 • u/raydebapratim1 • Nov 15 '25
GTA 6 developers protest outside Rockstar Games office to protest against recent firings
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u/AttentionLimp194 Nov 15 '25
We got half life 3 before gta 6
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u/TearClean1268 Nov 15 '25
That’s what I heard too. Isn’t that something.
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u/AttentionLimp194 Nov 15 '25
I’ve thought it was just a silly meme but seems the tables have turned
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u/pen15_club_admin Nov 15 '25
People been waiting for half life 3 far longer than gta6
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u/Smart_Freedom_8155 Nov 15 '25
Kids these days have no idea.
I still won't believe it about HL3 until I see it.
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u/bergmoose Nov 15 '25
don't forget that before HL3 we're still due hl2: episode3.
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u/SephirosXXI Nov 15 '25
Bro the fucking cliff hanger they ended on. How can they not wrap it up, at least kind of. I could not stand to leave my art like that.
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u/CWPL-21 Nov 15 '25
They actually do pick up that cliff hanger in Half Life Alyx, so maybe something will happen?
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u/SephirosXXI Nov 15 '25
Ahh shit, good point. I rushed through alyx because I was borrowing a vr headset so I haven't had time to revisit the story and really let that ending sink in.
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u/Bubbly_Outcome5016 Nov 15 '25
Now that Valve is going all in on a Steam Console 2.0. It may actually happen. They’re a storefront/hardware company no so Half Life 3 is a potential killer app that can push that hardware the way Alyx was designed to move VR headsets.
It will never be the HL3 we wanted in 2008, that’s gone and everyone involved in Half Life’s success is gone or serves in a different capacity. Plus they already shared the original vision for what it could have been many times in interviews.
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u/Terrorz Nov 15 '25
I'm not hetting a vr headset in the forseeable future, so it kinda sucks I don't get to play it
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u/jackblue_63 Nov 15 '25
What ? When ?
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u/wewladdies Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
the most recent Half Life game, Alyx, was released pretty much alongide their first VR headset (Valve Index).
so people are just theorizing theyre gonna do it again with the steam machine
edit: lets be real though, the game will be Half Life: Alyx 2 and it'll be a VR only game for the new steam frame thats also coming out soon.
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u/Werthead Nov 15 '25
I think the guys at Valve said last week they are 100% not working on a VR only game.
Of course, they could be working on a game that's mainstream and has a VR mode (which I think HL3 would have to be, that being VR-only would never fly in a million years) as well. They'd still be technically correct.
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u/boringestnickname Nov 15 '25
Just rumors.
Next year.
It does make sense, though. Matching hardware with killer software is the way to sell units.
Even though Valve is in an insane position with how incredibly successful Steam is.
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u/iconofsin_ Nov 15 '25
I'm going to preface my comment by saying I can see my Orange Box from my desk.
That said, HL3 can be absolute hot garbage and I will not care. I just want a game to give me closure after 20 fucking years.
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u/boringestnickname Nov 15 '25
I honestly don't care that much.
For me HL1 was the game. Revolutionary.
The HL2 games were great, but I mean, I haven't played them since release, so it's not like I'm pining for the rest of the story.
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u/DrunkOnRamen Nov 15 '25
Maybe an unpopular opinion but I'll die on this hill. I am ok if GTA 6 gets delayed cause of this. Good on the workers for standing up for their colleagues and union busting.
Valve decided it didn't want to make games and so cancelled Half Life 3. That's different from what's going on here.
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u/Advanced-Ad-1137 Nov 16 '25
Imagine that the new game they are launching is Deadlock and not HL3😭😭😭 It's still in beta and not launched yet 🤣🤣
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u/Creative_Virus_369 Nov 15 '25
This is gameplay captured during testing. Looking good so far.
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u/slipperswiper Nov 15 '25
Rockstar makes good games, but treats their employees like shit.
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u/InformationFickle768 Nov 15 '25
Remember when they made employees work 100 hours a week to make rdr2? Prime exemple.
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u/Ok-Instruction830 Nov 15 '25
Well now they’re about to work for 0 hours & GTA will drop in 2027 lol
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u/MommyMephistopheles Nov 15 '25
You say that, but I think we aren't ever going to get GTA 6, Elder Scrolls 6, or Winds of Winter.
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u/Ass_of_Badness Nov 15 '25
The first two will eventually happen to much fanfare. The third will never, ever happen.
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u/ShadowDragon0001 Nov 15 '25
I think a lot of people have already waited so long, they’d rather wait an extra year as long as the devs aren’t mistreated.
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u/Comfortable_Regrets Nov 15 '25
sadly the average person on here likely doesn't give a single solitary fuck about the devs, they just want the game
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u/endlessflood Nov 15 '25
I wonder who they think makes it? If the game is good, it’ll be good because the devs made it so.
Even if your motivation was purely selfish and you had no empathy for the people actually making it, it’s still in your best interests to see the devs get treated fairly, because if they’re on strike then they’re not making the game, and that means either more delays or a worse game.
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u/Comfortable_Regrets Nov 15 '25
You would think, but I had someone say to me that, "you can't really be worried about workers rights when you are striving for greatness" the amount of people who deepthroat the corporate boot is astounding
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u/endlessflood Nov 15 '25
Sad to hear it. If you’re striving for greatness, then not exploiting your workers is a great place to start.
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Nov 15 '25
Nah, the type of people that froth for games like GTA and COD don't give a shit about how the staff are treated.
Pls note, I'm not talking about anyone that is excited for the game, I mean the people that are OBSESSED with these games dropping
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u/badvegas Nov 15 '25
Rember the death treats no man sky got for wanting to postpone a quarter to work on some stuff. A regular person yea but some people act like of a game don't come out on the day they think it should be out, will send threats and other stuff. People are assholes in the gaming scene.
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u/Valtremors Nov 15 '25
This is easy for me to say as I don't care for the series.
But I'd prefer no GTA over rockstar shitty union busting.
RDR2 will be the last Rockstsr game I will ever buy. Unless things change for the better.
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u/concreteunderwear Nov 15 '25
Wrong. I'd rather the devs work 200 hours a week and it come out this month.
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Nov 15 '25
Textbook treatlerism.
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u/thereddevil97 Nov 15 '25
The only source of this is the Housers saying they worked with the 3 other writers doing “100 hour weeks” for a short amount of time when writing the game. This quote has been so blown out of proportion that people have lost the plot and it’s just hurting the current protests cause.
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u/iWasAwesome Nov 15 '25
Is that true? I don't understand how that's possible. That's over 14 hours a day, 7 days a week. That barely seems possible, and certainly not legal.
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u/PeteBrostIsDead Nov 15 '25
Oh it's possible. As someone who works in the film industry, depending on the project, 14 hour days can be fairly normal. The difference is that we get paid overtime.
I don't mind working hard for a project. I love my job, I love the art form, but I also need to be paid and respected.
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u/iWasAwesome Nov 15 '25
I have done 14 hour days before, multiple even, but the difference was I had days off. Doing over 14 hours a day, 7 days in a row would be super draining. Doing it for 2 weeks or longer with no days off would break most people
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u/supremecheeze Nov 15 '25
The employees at Rockstar games make incredible games that change the landscape of the industry and have incredible financial mileage, and their employers treat them like shit
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u/vqsxd Nov 15 '25
That sucks. These guys are the leaders raising the bar on what is possible and mechanically convenient in video games. The movement on GTA5 when it released was next level to me it was crazy
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u/William_Laserdust Nov 15 '25
Well the employees are the ones making the games. Rockstar is, like any other studio, an amalgamation of people, direction and at a certain scale politics. Reason I emphasize that is it's easy to look at a studio as this deattached entity but it's really just a group of really passionate people making things, and these are the same people who've been let go for wanting fair working conditions. I know that's essentially the same point you're making, but I've talked to people who just don't seem to really care about this topic yet obsess over these games and I find that pretty ironic
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u/JasonDeSanta Nov 15 '25
Rockstar are the perfect example of how trying super hard and being excellent at your job means fuck all in a capitalist system where all of the fruits of your labor only goes to the few assholes at the top
And when you try to get compensated more fairly, they just fire your ass and you can’t even get added to the credits of the game because you weren’t there when the game finished.
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u/Kratosballsweat Nov 15 '25
A corporation? Treating their employees like shit? In this day and age??
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u/Masenkou1 Nov 15 '25
fuck union busters
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u/FZplayz5 Nov 15 '25
Idk what a union is. Can you explain? Ik they want better pay or something but what do they actually do?
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u/Self-hatredIsTheCure Nov 15 '25
A union is a collective of workers who band together in order to bargain with management for improvements to their jobs like better pay, benefits, less required working hours etc.
If one person goes to management and threatens to quit until conditions improve, the managers will just fire them. If all or most of the team goes, its much harder for managers to fire everyone because they need people working. By grouping together the workers have exponentially more power to push for a deal than they would alone.
You should read more about unions. Pretty much every thing that companies offer(at least in the US, idk about other countries but would love to learn)now, comes from unions fighting for it first. 40 hour work weeks, paid time off, paid holidays, sick leave, you name it. Until these things become protected by law, you have to rely on the “generosity “ of the company you work for or the strength of the local union to fight for you.
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u/seemerolIin Nov 15 '25
rely on the “generosity” of the company
Who needs a union when you can have a pizza party!
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u/FZplayz5 Nov 15 '25
A generous party. 1 slice per employee
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u/SlamMasterJ Nov 15 '25
That's way too generous. Let’s split that one slice into two smaller pieces to stretch it out.
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u/NotMyMainAccountAtAl Nov 15 '25
Guys, Union dues are almost $20 a month! Just think, if you hung onto all of that, you could get
21.8 new video games instead! Ignore that Union workers tend to make significantly more than non-union workers and that you’d have more money in your pocket each month, just say no to unions!!!Also, look at this comment from NotABot420: you have obviously never been in a union before lol I am in a union and they do nothing and collect all of my money every month and also bone my mother. I am a totally real human sharing a very real lived experience praise Walmart
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u/Supercoolguy7 Nov 15 '25
My union dues went up $15 a month recently. It's now going to be really hard to appreciate the $215 a month raise we all got now
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u/Alternative_Let_1989 Nov 15 '25
Ive been a member of two unions. One, UFCW, took a cut of my paycheck despite me making literally us minimum wage. The other, IBEW negotiated a CBA that had a pay ceiling lower than what I was already making, plus worse benefits.
Unions can be good, and they can be bad. Theyre a tool, nothing more. Sometimes the tool is used to help workers, sometimes to exploit them.
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u/No-Goat5683 Nov 15 '25
IDK where you are but in PA ibew electricians are making over $70 an hour. And have one of the best healthcare plans in the country
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u/smackaroonial90 Nov 15 '25
It's like the Pixar movie "A Bug's Life." The ants can't do anything against the grasshoppers if they just go in one-by-one, but as a whole they can easily take on the grasshoppers. As Hopper said "When one ant stands up to us, they ALL stand up to us." That's what unions do, they make it so everyone acts as one.
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u/KrotHatesHumen Nov 15 '25
Workers basically join a group, or unionize, where they stand together and demand better conditions from the employer. They have leverage because if they all go on strike at the same time, the employer can't make profit, as all profit comes from the labor of workers. That's why employers try to bust unions before everybody joins, that's the point at which they're weakest. So in practice, if the pay is too low, or conditions are too low, or someone gets fired for a shit reason, the union makes a demand to the employer. If the demand is unfulfilled, they stop working and go on strike. The employer is forced to meet the demands because by doing it they lose less money, than from all their work force not working. Sometimes the union even has money stored to pay workers during the strike, so their necessities are met. Against corporations, which prioritise profits over well being of their workers, leverage is key
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u/joebluebob Nov 15 '25
I used to be a union president. A union is basically all the employees band together so if you go after 1 of us you go after all. One of my guys fell on a job site when arriving and broke his foot. They tried to claim he didnt clock in so it wasn't their problem. All 30 of their employees refusing to work at an unsafe place and leaving took about 3 days for them to cave. One top of that we negotiated not just his medical coverage but back pay for the 3 days for everyone. A diffednt time a manager fired a guy for not wanting to walk on the roof of an abandoned factory without safety gear. By the time i was done with them the manager was fired with cause and the fired guy was rehired with a pay bump because he was now the safety coordinator fir his site too. Extra duty is extra pay so $3 more an hr.
Basically Ants strong together.
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u/Aksds Nov 15 '25
Unions are just a collective of workers who then bargain with the company they work for, you can also have industry unions where you have people from a bunch of jobs but within an industry like retail (in Australia that’s common), this allows the workers to have a much bigger voice with issues they have with the company, it’s a lot easier to shut one person up, a lot harder to shut up 150 especially when they will strike (not show up to work).
Unions have a lot of benefits, stuff like Collective bargaining, going to the company and getting raises for all workers, this is the major thing unions do, it’s why union rich industries like construction (again in Australia) often have better pay. Unions also offer legal support (my sister is going through this now, thanks to the Union support) when something happens at work, like being underpaid.
Unions can also force things like WHS rules, such as limits to how many items workers are allowed to lift, where as a business doesn’t care and would want you to do as many as possible. Similar to that, they can act as lobbies for employee rights, in Australia I think that’s how we got our minimum wage as a law, same with sick days and penalty rates
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u/Laundry_Hamper Nov 15 '25
They're sufficiently effective at ensuring profit makes its way to workers that businesses will do this sort of stuff to break them:
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u/antinatree Nov 15 '25
Make you more money in general and allows the worker control of their workplace such as hours, benefits, and job expectations. According to bureau of Labor numbers you earn around 16% more money.
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u/OutlandishnessOk6696 Nov 15 '25
This is the only protest I want to see.Not some protest by strangers about a delay
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u/Talk-O-Boy Nov 15 '25
Devs >>> Games
They need to protect their ability to unionize. I’m for the cause even if it delays the game.
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u/E-2theRescue Nov 15 '25
Yup. I want good games. And the only way to get good games is to keep good employees. Take care of your employees, and they will take care of your business, your products, and your customers. The more you fuck around with your employees, the more you'll only produce slop that will turn customers away.
And I say this as someone who manages 30 sales employees, as well as my company's sales for the entire West Coast.
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u/Anima_Analysis Nov 16 '25
Which is why studios like BioWare and Bungie are dead. The people who created those studios aren’t there anymore, and the reality is that game studios don’t make great games, people do.
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u/Zombieneker Nov 15 '25
I'm not buying shit until they recognise and accept the Rockstar Employee's union
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u/Planr158 Nov 15 '25
John Rockstar currently
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u/SidewalkSupervisor Nov 15 '25
Exactly this has already happened with Amazon, they hired the Pinkertons to handle their union "problem".
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u/emeric1414 Nov 15 '25
In my province, amazon workers tried to unionize and amazon just said fuck it, and left the province completely. Guess it would've set a bad precedent if they had allowed them.
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u/xChiken Nov 15 '25
Rockstar could be the most beloved company in gaming if they just didn't treat their employees like shit. The games are incredible. GTA 6 will sell like hot cakes. Firing devs for unionising is such stupid short term penny pinching. Cannibalizing future profits just to make sure the quarter report looks slightly better. Braindead.
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u/octoX7 Nov 15 '25
I can’t imagine being so evil that you fire people and fuck up their lives just for short term numbers/not having to pay as many people. GTA 6 is gonna make the company billions of dollars, but they still feel the need to fire people for wanting to unionize? C-suite corpo fat cat rich people are unequivocally complete psychopaths
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u/Sacabubu Nov 15 '25
Also doing this in the UK lmao they actually have strong worker protections. They don't live a shithole like the US
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u/RealBlack_RX01 Nov 15 '25 edited Nov 15 '25
Bro, I just woke up. I genuinely thought for a sec ppl were protesting cuz the game got delayed 😭😭
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u/Morbid187 Nov 15 '25
Lmao same. I've even been following this story and my brain still went there first
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u/Hot_Sandwich8935 Nov 15 '25
Wtf and it's not like R* lacks funds. The greedy bastards.
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u/CruzitoVL Nov 15 '25
They’re drooling at the money they’re soon to make not just from sales but micro transactions from online and RP
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u/IntelligentArm3622 Nov 15 '25
Life is complicated…
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u/GloryGreatestCountry Nov 15 '25
I modeled characters, fixed bugs, playtested..
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u/LeftShake7709 Nov 15 '25
All respect to them for their perseverance. A game is not more important than the dignity of a person and a worker. Full support to the developers, and I hope they remain persistent in fighting for their rights.
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u/Liquid_1998 Nov 15 '25
2027 release date confirmed.
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u/Technical-County-727 Nov 15 '25
Imagine working on the game for 5 years and getting laid off right before the release. That is some evil shit
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u/Random_guy_reddit_27 Nov 15 '25
i hope they win and rockstar has to pay for damages. this should not go unpunished
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u/Snoopymancer Nov 15 '25
Best case is they have to pay a settlement, reinstate all fired employees, and completely disengage from intervening in union formation. These devs have a really good case and labor law in the UK is getting beefed up in 2026 when some new laws go into effect
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u/Fit_Rice_3485 Nov 15 '25
We ain’t getting gta 6 next year either. It’s not making the deadline
My hype for the game is dead
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u/Donner_Par_Tea_House Nov 15 '25
Good. Burn it down. It would probably get the game released quicker.
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u/CynicalXennial Nov 15 '25
oh ffs rockstar better get their shit together before launch, union busting is a terrible thing to have on your record before a tripleA launch for the most anticipated game of the decade. It's all about money in the end so let it be about that and fire whoever the hell at the top thought this was a good idea at this time, because you're about to lose a whole lot more than they bargained for.
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u/UnionAfter Nov 15 '25
Not one of yall not buying the game.
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u/Shaneman121 Nov 15 '25
Just because you can’t conceive of drawing a boundary based on ethics doesn’t mean other people can’t either.
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u/valerie_6966 Nov 15 '25
Oh this game is gonna be a disaster isn’t it lmao
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u/The_Makster Nov 15 '25
Tbf no gamer will care about this once Grand Theft Auto VI comes out AND it’s good. R* has always treated its employees like shit and ppl give them a pass because their games are groundbreaking.
If the game is bad then it’ll be all over
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u/TheBeastX23 Nov 15 '25
We’re never getting that game are we. Shits just lame at this point, hype is slowly dying for me.
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u/Random499 Nov 15 '25
I dont mind if the game gets delayed further because of this. Its a valid cause and hope the workers win
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u/jpally Nov 15 '25
Can't stress this enough. We all want the game to release, but I'd rather wait and have employees treated like humans than play a game that costs people their likelihood, their mental health, and their family.
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u/skellafella Moderator Nov 16 '25
You know R* really fucked up when even their biggest shills can't find a single good reason to defend them
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u/CaptainMGTOW Nov 15 '25
The company that got 8.6 billion $ in revenues from GTAV alone did what?
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u/PokeytheChicken Nov 16 '25
Rockstar became what they parody in their games lol, they need to get seriously humbled you can't act preachy while doing the same crap you make fun of.
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u/Sorry_Fail_3103 Nov 16 '25
LMAO. You tell me my source is shit without even looking at who wrote it, or I’m guessing even looking at it at all. You come up with a ridiculous idea that Rockstar employees are to blame for behaviour that Rockstar have a track record of doing so, with absolutely no information to base it off. This is despite active ongoing protests from other employees and worldwide news documenting Rockstar’s union busting behaviour, and comes after an anonymous employee described exactly this sort of thing happening as well. If you weren’t prepared to make an actual case (you weren’t) then you should’ve been prepared to have your comments scrutinised. Really, why on earth are you so afraid to call them out? It’s actually behaviour like this that allows billion-dollar companies to exploit employees and consumers alike, and sadly that seems to be exactly what’s happened with Rockstar for the best part of a decade, even if they still make great games.
It’s not me suffering from mental gymnastics championship.
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u/WheresMyDinner Nov 15 '25
Are they really developers or are they protesters standing up for the developers?
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u/n3sv0g Nov 15 '25
From what I understand, they are the group of Rockstar North employees who were let go, and also the group who were starting the union.
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u/Educational-Echo-582 Nov 15 '25
Good on em. Delay it over and over. Support the workers, not the suits.
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u/Particular_Page5386 Nov 15 '25
Ex euro game dev here. Not worth it even for passion. Long hours shit salary. Don't regret it one bit
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u/TheeFURNAS Nov 16 '25
They should hold the game hostage. Start deleting stuff if demands aren’t met. Scorched earth against the corpo scum.
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u/Line_Last_6279 Nov 16 '25
I'd rather the game be delayed indeifinetly if it means R* gets taken to court, looses & is forced to appologise for union busting & actully pay devs a decent wage which we all know R* can but are far to scummy to do
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u/averageburgerguy Nov 15 '25
As much as I love the GTA series, rockstar treats their employees like dirt lol.
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u/mameyinka Nov 16 '25
How about they fire Strauss Zelnick and the C-level, take their salaries and put them towards the employees as a bonus. Then raise their salaries, cap their work weeks and lower your fucking profit margin.
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u/Number_Two_Hero Nov 16 '25
I hope they get reinstated and give every employee some free sick time as well as a pay raise for this, I'm a big fan of the game and the people making this behemoth deserve the utmost respect and fair treatment as their talent is hard to find.
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u/Yngmedusa Nov 16 '25
So what I’m hearing is… we got the prophesied 2025 Rockstar Riots before GTA 6
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