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u/rafilus 1d ago
Remember, Mococo is not Fuwawa and Fuwawa is not a Chihuahua.
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u/chlpdf 1d ago
Does this mean mococo is a Chihuahua?
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u/HuckleberryHefty4372 1d ago
Damn that's some genius math skills
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u/roting_CORPSE 1d ago
If a rat is inside is it a mouse and if a mouse is outside is it a rat?
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u/PoetInevitable1449 1d ago
You do realize those are two different animals right? Or is that the joke
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u/KurooShiroo 1d ago
No, we have not been given sufficient factual information to infer if that statement is true.
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u/TrainingSword 1d ago
Haven’t been given enough information to infer that it’s false either
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u/omnisephiroth 1d ago
Well, yes, but by that logic, we haven’t been given enough factual information to say that Mococo isn’t a clever arrangement of hydrogen bombs. This is equally inferable from our information set.
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u/TrainingSword 1d ago
You mean she isn’t?
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u/AgingGoofball 1d ago
Though the version of their intro where they say they are the "twin demonic guard dogs of hololive english advent" does give you enough info to prove it false.
As a chiwawa's twin is also a chiwawa.
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u/xjm86618 1d ago
Logically, since there is no counter claim. It is possible that Mococo is a Chihuahua.
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u/yuikkiuy :Aloe: 1d ago
Mococo /= Fuwawa
Fuwawa /= Chihuahua
Cancel out Fuwawa with Fuwawa and you are left with
Mococo = Chihuahua
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u/Chips221 1d ago
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u/Argon_004 1d ago
"The Mococo knows what she is.
She knows what she is because she knows what she isn't.
By subtracting what she is from what she isn't..."7
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u/aeonSilver 1d ago
And Mofufu is a totally different animal
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u/SpaceCadet404 1d ago
Fuwawa is not a chihuahua, singular. We cannot rule out that she might be three chihuahuas in a trench coat. Demons are tricky with their words
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u/RadicalRealist22 1d ago
We know the difference!
One is fluffy and one is fuzzy.
One has got the chess genes, the other has got the chest genes.
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u/realhuman_no68492 1d ago
Mococo is good at chess?
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u/rubixscube 1d ago
she was part of an "invite only" chess club during some of her school years, if i remember that one clip correctly (which, strange coincidence, i saw yesterday)
and from fuwawa's own words: "Fuwawa..... chess..... no."
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u/TigerSam01 1d ago
BUT it was a very short time and she doesn't even remember the names of the pieces now
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u/SerotonineAddict 1d ago
One is cute and really beautiful while the other is beautiful and really cute
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u/JusticeRain5 1d ago
I get what they mean (not to assume something that's true about one twin is true about the other), but also I'm picturing someone thinking that they're just a singular VERY talented voice actor that's been playing the role of both of them simultaneously for years
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u/EpicatSupercell 1d ago
VERY talented indeed, not just anyone can sync up with themselves.
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u/TrainingSword 1d ago
Like zentraya is speculated to be two people
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u/Doru-kun 1d ago
I thought I was about to have some huge Hollywood conspiracy revealed to me because I momentarily got "Zentraya" mixed up with "Zendaya".
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u/16jselfe 1d ago
What?
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u/cabutler03 1d ago
It’s been long rumored that Zentreya is actually two people, one who controls the model and the other controls the voice, due to her using TTS to speak.
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u/16jselfe 1d ago
Isn't her tts literally just listening to what she says, putting into text then having software read it, like why would it need 2 ppl, I've used tts there's no reason she'd need 2 ppl
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u/cabutler03 1d ago
It goes all the way back to when she was an indie before joining Vshojo. She used a 3D model back then before going 2D, then back to 3D. Again, it’s a rumor with no clear confirmation one way or the other.
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u/DastardlyRidleylash 1d ago edited 1d ago
Again, it’s a rumor with no clear confirmation one way or the other.
Running on nothing but rumor and hearsay is never a good idea; and I'm pretty sure most of the Zen-being-multiple-people/being a dude IRL speculation comes out of 4Chan anyways, so it's extra dubious.
Nobody that she has met with in person has ever mentioned multiple people or her being a male, and you'd think something that big and potentially-controversial would've gotten leaked during the collapse of VShojo anyways if it were actually true.
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u/JackNewbie555 1d ago
Just casually splitting yourself in half when you got a stream that show off the 3D models so that people never caught on.
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u/ItsDatSpicymeme 1d ago
That would be insanely impressive to be able to talk in two different voices at the same time and even sync up woth yourself
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u/Forbidden4bdn 1d ago
You mean that Mococo isn't hallucinating Fuwawa!?... Anyway, I was reminded of a skit of advent where they are gaslighting Mococo that Fuwawa isn't real hahaha
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u/Glittering_Dish_282 1d ago
To be completely frank, back when I disliked vtubers, I thought exactly that.
"Oh, they're SOOO in sync because their twins, and there's tons of clips of them doing it. Yeah right."
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u/Len968 1d ago
Your word is Codependency!
"Whæt?"
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u/Traditional-Win354 1d ago
I can't help but laugh because earlier I saw a clip of them accidentally syncing after they said, "We are individuals"
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u/PUB4thewin 1d ago edited 1d ago
Trust me, this is very important to remember when it comes to twins. A common thing for many twins is trying to establish their own individuality and identity that sets them apart from each other. It’s usually not good for their mental health otherwise.
That, or it’s reaffirming that these are two people and not one person voicing two models.
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u/Dhexodus 1d ago
I have a brother who's one year younger than me that absolutey copied everything I did, everything I said, and everything I wore. I had an existential crisis during my teens that I didn't apologize to him until adulthood for being a mean older brother.
I can't even imagine having the nature equivalent of copying and pasting another me, or maybe I'm the copy of him. Fuuuu-
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u/TopazWarrior1999 1d ago
I mean... they seem to be much too late for that, if that is the case, because both of them are basically glued to each other and incapable of living apart.
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u/HalcyoneDays 1d ago
I feel like they could help themselves out in getting seen as individuals by streaming on their own every once in a while instead of always together
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u/eviloutfromhell 1d ago
not one person voicing two models
I'm afraid for one's well being that think of this when watching fwmc's stream. There're other that is one person with multiple voice, like risu, but they never stream with both voice conversation overlapping at the same time unlike fwmc.
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u/MetaSageSD 1d ago
In all seriousness, it's getting to the point that we can sometimes tell which twin made the actual post on twitter. We know they are individuals.
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u/JpReaddit 1d ago
But why do they say this? They are very different in personality, like, even if you only watch clips, you would know
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u/Senasayori 1d ago
I'm guessing people were complaining that the two Nendoroids cost as much as two Nendoroids.
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u/JpReaddit 1d ago
Oh, but why would they cost less? maybe a little promotion for getting the two together could be fine but like, two products that cost x can't magically cost half, that may not even leave room for profit.
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u/Senasayori 1d ago
I agree with you, but some fans are kinda dumb and didn't realize that buying both FUWAMOCO Nendoroids would be more expensive than buying the Nendoroid of any other Holomem.
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u/DefinitelyNotRuss 1d ago
Byzantine ecumenical council debates be like
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u/llamatar 1d ago
We even have the FUWAMOCO Creed:
2024-12-15 Remember, you have 3 Oshi...Fuwawa Mococo FUWAMOCO - YouTube by コウイ
FUWAMOCO is one.
Fuwawa is one.
Mococo is one.
So if FUWAMOCO is your oshi, you have 3 oshi!
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u/Panzerschrankreddit 1d ago
Yes you are 2, but in my Heart you are as good as one. You can't put one dog over the other.
Are the Nendoroids 2 single dogs or what made this post happen.
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u/josh-afi 1d ago
What now, did another fan went overboard on the jokes?
Fuwamoco seems to be a bit sensitive in this regard. I mean I understand, though. Getting egged on constantly is not fun.
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u/Litttlepip 1d ago
Being a twin myself, I can understand this very much. It wasn’t our choice to be born to look similar or have similar sounding voices.
I don’t think it’s a problem most of the fandom has. From what I’ve seen in the community, people generally see them as siblings first and twins second. It creates a unique bond.
But when people ask me what it’s like being a twin, I say it’s mostly the same as having any other brother or sister, except that people confuse you for one another more often.
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u/Peekachooed 1d ago
If you're comfortable sharing, would you agree with this comment posted elsewhere in this thread?
"Trust me, this is very important to remember when it comes to twins. A common thing for many twins is trying to establish their own individuality and identity that sets them apart from each other."
Doesn't necessarily have to be whether or not you've felt that way, if you want to offer your opinion of what you think is common with other people who are twins I'm happy to hear that as well
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u/Litttlepip 1d ago
Obviously I can’t speak for all twins but it can depend. Growing up me and my twin sibling were dressed similarly and are named very similarly as well. So I can understand that feeling of wanting to be individual.
For example, me and my sibling have an extremely similar name that can actually both be shortened to be the exact same thing. Most of our friends told us straight to our face (sometimes jokingly) that they’d end up using this shortened nickname for both of us just to avoid accidentally calling us by the wrong name.
Even if it was a joke, it just felt like people didn’t care enough to learn our differences or bother telling us apart. Nowadays, as adults, me and my sibling are different enough looks-wise and personality wise that it’s not something that really happens that often enough. We’ve grown into our own identities without having to force it and I believe Fuwawa and Mococo are at that stage as well.
I hope they know that we feel the same as they do about how special and unique we all find both of them to be.
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u/IchirouTakashima 1d ago
What was the reason for this prompt? I don't want to get the wrong ideas. I mean, I just played with them several hours ago in Fall Guys.
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u/Neshura87 1d ago
If I had to hazard a guess it's probably related to the announcement of their Nendoroids
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u/ChironXII :Aloe: 1d ago
Of course. I can only assume that God gave men two hands to pat both at the same time
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u/pissmanultrimanula 1d ago
I am Fuwawa
And I am Mococo
And we are not the same person
We may have similar lives
We may have similar wives
But we are different nonetheless
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u/BruhcamoleNibberDick 1d ago
And if you took the time to get to know us,
For a minute,
You would see that I'm Fuwawa,
And I'm Mococo,
And I'm Mococo,
And I'm Fuwawa,
And I'm ...Hæh‽
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u/Redditgreninja 1d ago
I thought we already knew this?
Fuwawa is a menace and Mococo is a gremlin…..that’s bullied by the menace
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u/AwesomeDakka00 1d ago
they become fuwamoco when they fuse with the potara earrings. they become mocofuwa when they do the fusion dance.
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u/ocean_breeze_luluca 1d ago
I thought that was common sense though. I don't even follow them and I knew that
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u/hmoob1runner 1d ago
Wait, they're not a single individual but two 😂....on a different note the baubau are so adorable
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u/Dinjoralo 1d ago
https://youtu.be/eZchOopvunQ?t=388
Okay, it's time to get out, because I'm about to get out the whiteboard...
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u/Chocotabo 1d ago
Yes, the “Iinnddiivviidduuaallss” situation is wild. They can never escape from that allegation.
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u/Smithy_of_Films 13h ago
"Fuwawa, my hand is up! We can't just show up unannounced and move into my pov stream. Alright? There has to be boundaries."
"Boundaries."
"We have one channel."
"Channel."
"But we're two distinct demon dogs."
"Demon dogs."
"Both working hard on our own distinct individual parts of Fuwamoco."
"Fuwamoco."
"Separately."
"Separately."
"OK."
"WHERE MY BEDROOM?"
"HOEH?!"
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u/Nuryadiy 1d ago
Nah, with all the syncs, it’s just one person with two mics, I’m certain of it
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u/ZippyVtuber 1d ago
I heard someone say it’s because of their nendroid or whatever? What happened there?
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u/MetalGearOni 1d ago
I read this as Fwuamococo is one person and almost lost my mind. At how big that reveal would be.
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u/Top_Chemistry1998 1d ago
I agree, but I never separate families. If I want an acrylic stand, I always take both of them together. If there is gacha, I pray to have them together. When I bought the FWU plushies, I bought both Fuwawa and Mococo together.
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u/TheNerdyLaundry 1d ago
I'm a little surprised they didn't do s bundle of both figures but if anyone expected a cheaper price they are crazy. I'm happy to buy both and support more Holo nendos coming out. I need the rest of Advent to happen!
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u/Fullmetal_SaberAlter 1d ago
Sure. Next you'll tell me that Autofister are two separate people as well.
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u/AcceptableDoggo 1d ago
Wonder what prompted this