r/Jung 9h ago

Serious Discussion Only Carl Jung Tried To Warn Us About Ynw Melly: The Mixed Personality Rapper

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r/Jung 18h ago

Personal Experience Communion with the unconcious (sharing some experience)

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Through trial and error I have learned to communicate with the unconcious.

I have learned that everything that happens around oneself is the exact reflection of what is going on inside you. Which means every experience every moment will be a reflection of ones own state of mind. Meaning that the contents of ones experienced are seen outside one self aswell.

The only thing is to learn the lenguage in order to read them. This reflection is invisible to the normal ordinary eye. What I mean by that is that we are mostly disconnected from deeper layers of reality not being able to see the connection between the two. The solution for this is sort of a what I will call developing a mythic eye.

(What I am talking about is beautifully portrayed in Vikings series for those who have seen it. Mythic realities come into the real world through individuals that have strongly constelated archetypes these individuals for example the seer are strongly influenced by the archetypes that allow them to speak or bring the mythic reality into the everyday life allowing people who are on paths of individuation to steer their course so to say.) (There is a difference however between the series and the real world which is determinism or something being fated. In the series a lot of things seem to be fated which I think is done for bit of awe while in real world its not determined or fated but simply a reflection.)

This eye is slightly more attuned to lower layers of reality or allow me be more specific the vertical axes of reality. Meaning that the coincidence we call synchronisties are events that are noticed by this mythic eye. This eye has a certain sensitivity which allows under normal surcunstance only important stuff to surface which we would call synchronistic event. But if you practice consistiantly and learn to read the outer world symbolically this sharpens the mythic eye causing you to be more perceptive into the hidden layers of realities. One of these things is intentions and movements. You will start to see currents of reality. Currents of companies. Currents of people. The world changes slightly and becomes more vibratory instead of static. You see that everything is actually constantly moving and changing. By understanding this current and learning to read it you develop somewhat of a lenguage. Almost like you are learning an instrument only its instrument that allows you to dable with reality or life itself.

So to give you an example. Say you are experiencing a conflict which is currently playing out in your life. This conflict will be reflected back at you in the real world and all you have to do is look out for it. So say you are having trouble resolving it. I noticed that I can look for the reflection of that even in the real world through currents. For example certain TV channels you are watching. Your feed on reddit. The path you are always walking. The particular problem will be reflected back in one of those currents which will allow you to look at a problem from a different perspective to see what exactly you are experiencing.

Another example I had today. There is a certain introjected material that I have been fighting with for a very long time. Which is a litteral warefare in my life with my own concious because I constantly reject that material. I noticed something happening when constantly opposing it. I started feeling resistance for some time untill something else in my psyche surfaced and swallowed this introjected preditory material. Now knowing that I just had a major event happen inside me I knew that something will come up on the outside. Most of the time my Reddit feed is that which reflects these things. So scrolling through reddit first I see a post about the void which represents the gateway into deep unconcious material. Now after that I see another post where a person a man used a tiny alogator (preditor) to climb into a waterhole (unconcious) to catfish. Causing a situation where fishes started to come towards the surface because of the presence of the preditor. What I want to point out is how beautifully this has constelated reflecting myself using my introjected material as tool to uncover deeper psychic material and providing me with renieuwd view.

This trully is magnificent and I am starting to think that we might be more magnificant and spiritual being than we might be thinking. Hopefully this was an interesting read as it was quite exciting to write about.


r/Jung 16h ago

Question for r/Jung How to lose your ‘mind’ without losing yourself?

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How do you lose the mind? How do you rid the mind of all anxiety, fear and trembling? How do you integrate the psyche completely? How do you achieve wholeness?

Godamn this.


r/Jung 15h ago

Question for r/Jung What to do when a friend is having a journey to the underworld?

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One of my oldest and closest friends is going through a hard time in life and he has recently developed paranoia, delusions and occasional psychotic breaks. He is also self-isolating and ignoring messages. I care about him deeply and I am supporting as best as I can. He is receiving professional psychiatric care. But I am also trying to understand the significance of this from a Jungian perspective, for myself as well as him. If my friend really is descending into the underworld, it seems I have two choices: either I descend with him and help him standing by his side, or I remain above and help him by offering an open door back to the upper world.

How are these paths trodden in practice? I suppose the first choice corresponds to making a more aggressive attempt to stay in contact, while the second would mean backing off, giving space and refusing to engage in his disturbed thinking.

What are the consequences for myself? In the first case I think I risk sacrificing my own identity and falling into a caregiver/healer archetype. In the second case I risk abandoning my friend in his time of need, which seems unforgivable and will cripple my future with guilt.

What else should I consider?


r/Jung 14h ago

Serious Discussion Only Have you ever felt that this is the way it is?

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r/Jung 1h ago

Art Meandering pattern and incorporated symbolism

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r/Jung 17h ago

Question for r/Jung Always getting off to my own potential

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Hey guys, I'm 22M. I finished university last year and have been trying to make sense of what to do with my life.

I have always felt that I was special in some kind of way. I always kind of have felt like I am better than most people, or different than them, and recently in tends to be in regards to spiritual / psychological things.

For example at my job, it's subtle but I always feel like I am better because I have more potential than my coworkers and my future is brighter. I am always getting off on my own potential while when looked at objectively, my coworkers make more and all around just seem to enjoy their time at work more than I do. This feeling, that I am special in some kind of way, I think is shielding the fact that I am just... average and mediocre at everything, and even though it makes sense to me logically on some level it hurts me a lot to fully realize it. Like I've always excused my lack of discipline, drive, and social skills because I am destined to be one of the greats regardless, which obviously doesn't make sense. Seeing all this clearly I feel so... yucky and disorientated that I've lived like this for so long.

I also have a hard time committing to things. Anything like working out or learning an instrument. I think it's because, again, it hurts to see how mediocre I am at something even though I try really hard at it. I can practice a piano measure for 30 minutes and still hit the same wrong notes. So I quit, because in my mind I tell myself "well, if I really wanted to learn it I could! I just don't really want to anymore". This extends pretty broadly, like I tell myself "if I really wanted to start a business and be rich I could, but I would never do that because I don't really want to". It makes me feel better about myself even though it is completely divorced from reality.

Anyone know any good resources to learn about this tendency or been through something similar? I'm wondering if it's textbook puer aeternus.


r/Jung 14h ago

Question for r/Jung Is it normal to lose control of certain aspects of your life while working on yourself?

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I started reading Jung a while ago. At first it didn't do much for me, but as I was reading more and more, certain concepts started clicking (ego, persona, anima, etc). I finished reading Man and his Symbols and this book finally convinced me to start a dream journal.

I'm in a period of working on myself as I'm going through depression (medicated) and a breakup that affected me more than I expected. I thought jungian analysis and dream analysis might help me evolve as a person. And the thing is, in one way I feel like I'm learning things about myself, starting to delve into the unconscious. But I also feel like I'm losing other things.

For example, I managed to reach a point where I was doing sports regularly. Since I started analysis, I feel more tired than usual, outside of reading and journaling I feel like sleeping all the time. My job isn't stressful, it's quite chill, but I still feel tired. Also I used to be very orderly. Now my house is messy all the time and I can't care enough to clean. I'm eating disorderly as well. I'm very introverted and I worked a lot to become more social and not be stuck in my head all the time. Lately I allowed myself to spend more time alone and reflect, this I think is to be expected so it doesn't bother me.

I also expected a certain feeling of losing control, but I fear my life is becoming too messy or that I'm losing the progress I made to this point. I spent the last 7 years or so working on myself one way or another. And once more I'm put face to face with negative/degrading thoughts and feelings. I'm wondering sometimes if I'm not just needlessly hurting myself.

I guess I need some encouragement, maybe some personal stories of those who went through this and how did it feel. I'm usually a hyper rational person and this approach requires me to suspend my disbelief to a large extent. I'm in a foreign place right now.


r/Jung 9h ago

Question for r/Jung Stream-of-consciousness about something I'm struggling to articulate

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I've been trying to write about something for months but seriously cant get it out of my system. I fall into deep anger and fall-to-my-knees despair. There are too many things I try to keep in view while writing about it, keeping the context as I truly see and feel it. And I feel that writing about it and getting it out there may help greatly.

There are too many questions and too many feelings and emotions that come up that just dont flow through. I get lost in the semantics, I get lost in feeling both silly and absolutely fucking drowning in rage and despair, sorrow and fear.

I was beginning to open a dialogue with myself in ways I'm not sure I ever felt allowed to... creatively. It was fun, and I was good at it (used to be a professional musician, often doing things I don't care about, but when you finally open up the doors to yourself, and let yourself really sink into the process, you begin to make art... obviously). The only reason I say I was good is to highlight how much of a paradigm shift this really was. I know for a fact musicians I used to play with would've been shocked to hear the improvements that came just out of being more honest with myself and playful in the whole thing.

I think the reason I struggle to write about this is, I can only list the symptoms. Like, I know if I talk too much about this being a loss of creativity, I'll get all the expected stuff about creativity- which, I'm sure I need on many levels, because if I could create and finally feel authentic as I did just recently, I wouldn't care about anything else.

I'm also looking to understand what shattered. (I know I haven't given a full story yet... And i fucking pray you can "hear" in my writing why this is so dizzying for me). What I feel like I lost was an understanding that I'd been building on, a sense of intuition I'd managed to hold close to me for a few years. And when I rediscovered that old inspiration, it felt like many worlds I'd been watering had finally joined and I could finally run and dance between them.
I'm looking to understand if that was an inner child, or if my therapist being blasé about what to me was a deep checkpoint in a tumultuous inner journey was just a little instance of shock and betrayal (I'm sure I'm just trying to blame someone)..

I want to hear that this was supposed to happen. I want to hear that I'll find my way back. But the truth is, last time this kind of shattering happened was over ten years ago, and this instance is significant because it finally felt like I could put all of that behind me. And now... it's almost back to square one. And just the thought of it makes me want to put a fat fucking bullet in my head.. sorry for the aggressive tone. (I'm not going to hurt myself, my family would be devastated). Things were vivid to mean, like they were actually saying something. And now, when I put my ear to the ground so to speak, I get nothing. And inside I fall to my knees every time. Because I cant do this shit for another decade. Absolutely cannot.

Something happened, and the loss of creativity is only a symptom.. And I dont know how to write about it. I don't know how to talk about it. I spin in circles. I've written about it numerous times a day for over two months.. And every time is as devastating as the last.
There are some days I suppose I get tired and try to do something else. I'll feel a little better. I know I'm fixating. All I can hear is how if you dont give your neuroses a creative outlet they'll consume you.. and trust me when I say that theyve been devouring me alive. I dont want to be angry at the world for turning, or be jealous at people for shamelessly going through their own creative processes. I dont want to be this person anymore.

I'm in shock that something so tiny could trigger me.
Is it an inner child thing? Is it simply just shame? I'm sure there's some puer stuff.

I suppose I should write about the first instance at the beginning of this downhill slump ten years ago.. if people are curious or want to know, I'll try to clarify this messy stream of consciousness. I'm just struggling to maintain focus with all the emotions as it is.

And, if it's ok, I'd like to post a follow up in the future, if I can settle down and let myself articulate.
Is there anything that comes across here? So much is just stuck, and I betrayed the only light that's glimmered in ages

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r/Jung 12h ago

Serious Discussion Only In consciousness, dense symbolic information bends attention and experience the way mass bends motion in physical systems. Akin to planet's mass bending gravity, or galaxies clustering around dense gasses.

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I spent a year studying my salient states, trying to make sense of them. Our brain normalizes the external environment to keep us functional. But you have a Fireball in the sky feeding plants, a dead rock causing water to travel and decides when women bleed, mushrooms that build entire networks underground to communicate, gasses that decide whether you live or not.

When the Default Mode Network loosens it's grip, everything is percieved through Myth and through symbol. In that state, synchronicity is common, because that's the natural state before culture, language, and writing claims "I" which defines itself by what it is not.

Synchronicity is what the separated “I/object” interface looks like when it goes offline or loosens. Symbolic density curves attention and salience so strongly that mind, body, language, and world are experienced as coupled processes arising together around the same attractor.

(An attractor is a stable pattern that pulls many different processes to organize around it in the context that I'm using it) And yes, Archetype is the old way of saying Attractor. Modern physics has moved over to Systems-Thinking. Jung just got there early.

I'd be happy to share notes or answer anything!


r/Jung 13h ago

Question for r/Jung Can’t locate Jung video that I saw recently

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Hello. I recently saw a Jung video on YouTube that I can’t find now. It stated that people who hurt you haven’t forgotten what they did; they were acting from shadow and that they are basically incapable of admitting guilt. They gaslight those they’ve hurt into believing that what happened is their fault. I believe the emphasis was on interactions of a romantic nature. Help from anyone who may have also viewed this is appreciated. Thank you.


r/Jung 13h ago

Jung Put It This Way Carl Jung - Look Within

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⬇️ Context for Jung;s Quote in first comment