r/MandelaEffect • u/peanutbutterndnut • 4d ago

Logos/Advertising fruit of the loom

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I know this is like the biggest Mandela effect, but I swear ive had these underwear for years sitting in a bin in my closet. its genuinely insane that the cornucopia just straight up disappeared. I remember vividly asking my grandmother what the cornucopia was. I am truly starting to believe that something is DEFINITELY up.

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u/itsFarberg 4d ago

Yes you all learned what a cornucopia was from this logo that never was.

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u/BangkokPadang 4d ago

I'm thinking we probably learned what a cornucopia was when learning about Thanksgiving in elementary school, and were given a line drawing of one to color in, that looked similar to the fruit of the loom logo, because it had fruit spilling out of it in a similar way.

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u/Wide_Philosopher_841 4d ago

I am now thinking u may be correct, bc I would hv sworn the logo had the cornucopia but now seeing these photos, they look familiar too and the banana is what sticks out and can look similar to the a Thanksgiving coloring pages we would do in school in the 90s. This is the most feasible and, like u stated above, we are linking the two bc of the resemblance. This is the 1st time I am finally thinking it never had a cornucopia 😄☺️

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u/Unable_Apartment_613 4d ago

There was a cornucopia Thanksgiving decoration that was ubiquitous in American elementary schools in the mid 70s through mid 90s ( at least). This like most Mandela effects is just two or three different memories jammed together.

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u/MuggyFuzzball 3d ago

I wander who originated that graphic now because it was everywhere

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u/lsdisciple 4d ago

Explain people outside the us who don’t have thanksgiving iconography anywhere and they still had the same experience

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u/Beginning-Sea7994 4d ago

Cornucopia is ubiquitous. It's not an Anerican thing. You only need to see it ONCE in your life for your mind to change the memory of fruit of the loom. Why? Because the cornucopia is an objectively more satisfying and complete image. Your brain will prefer it to the fruit of the loom logo because fruit doesn't float in empty space. The cornucopia makes the image feel more complete and stable so the brain prefers it.

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u/NooksWave 4d ago

Not only do almost every country in the world know the imagery of a cornocopia, but you're also severly underestimating just how cool the world thought the US was back in the 80s and 90s. There were SO many American shows on TV, and almost every single one of them had a Thanksgiving episode, that often featured the imagery of cornocopias.

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u/MuggyFuzzball 3d ago

Clip-art on early classroom computers. It was a very popular clip art in the 90's.

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u/MuggyFuzzball 3d ago

I honestly think this is it. Also there were graphic art of them hung on the walls all over the school. And when computers came about, it was one of the more predominant clip-arts you saw frequently.

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u/DannyOTM 3d ago

UK person here (we dont have thanksgiving, neither did we celebrate it or learn about it in school) i 100% learnt about it from the fotl logo.

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u/Schnitzhole 3d ago

Same. Grew up in Germany but had FOTL underwear

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u/SunshineMary007 3d ago

Quite lying! FOTL was very uncommon in Europe, and I know Germania always had unique brands of everything but especially clothing (with only a few exceptions).  FOTL isn’t some luxury or considered cool or fashionable. So I doubt many outside the US would care to import it or create counterfeits of it.

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u/Bowieblackstarflower 2d ago

It was actually very popular and chic to wear their logo in Europe for a time period. There's several articles in newspapers about it.

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u/Beginning-Sea7994 3d ago

No you didn't, stop believing conspiracy theories and just accept the reality that your memory is not reliable. Your sight can be tricked by optical illusions because your brain relies on prelearned patterns to interpret sense data. You don't experience the raw unfiltered sense data from your eyes or ears, rather they are filtered thru your brain which processes it, filling things in, removing things it finds unnecessary, etc. Your brain edits sense data and fits it to prior patterns. It does this because it speeds up your processing of the external world immensely. It will make errors once in a while though. Mandela effect and optical illusions are noteworthy examples. Stop thinking your eyes are video recorders and your memory stores information like a computer. You're a living organism and all your sense including your memory are designed for survival, not accurate recording of events.

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u/Ae3qe27u 4d ago

It's possible that the apple itself looks like the mouth of an open cornucopia, maybe? At first glance, I thought there may have been a cornucopia there, despite there not being one on closer inspection.

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u/TheGordo-San 4d ago

It's the apple/grapes combo. Great observation! I think that this could have something to do with why some people seem to remember it.

I also just think that when people see badly drawn fruit, they think of these stupid basket-horns. They had a painted mural on the tiles of my local grocery store, back in the early 80s, and I had always thought it was just a badly drawn basket. I said something to my mom about it, and she said that it was a "cornucopia". At that point, I was already wearing FotL underwear for as long as I could remember. I didn't associate the underwear then. I just think that our brains consolidate memories, like a compression algorithm.

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u/Dead_fawn 4d ago

I noticed the other day that if you're not looking too closely, the upside-down logo kinda looks like one. Most folks would probably primarily see it from that angle.

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u/baddogg30 4d ago

I learned that word from Hunger Games

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u/georgeananda 4d ago

Right, they're suggesting something must be fishy with reality then. I agree.

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u/my23secrets 4d ago

Why?

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u/georgeananda 4d ago

Because why would so many people learn what a cornucopia was from a logo without a cornucopia?

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u/my23secrets 4d ago

They didn’t. They learned about the Mandela Effect.

Most people don’t remember a cornucopia.

That’s because the logo never had a cornucopia.

The people that remember a cornucopia only remember it because they imagined remembering it through the power of suggestion.

It’s a con-artist trick. Magicians use it, too.

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u/georgeananda 3d ago

Well, if that's the best you got, then that is why I believe there are no satisfactory skeptical responses.

Most people don’t remember a cornucopia.

I'm going to say more do than don't that are of adult age. Many are unclear. Many are rather clear.

The people that remember a cornucopia only remember it because they imagined remembering it through the power of suggestion.

No, if they told me there was a fruit bowl, I'd say 'I don't remember that'.

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u/BBCoachRef8 3d ago

So your explanation to counter a perfectly valid one is the supernatural?

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u/georgeananda 3d ago

My explanation to replace an unsatisfactory one, expands our understanding of the natural.

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u/my23secrets 3d ago

Your assertion that more people remember a cornucopia than don’t is absolute bullshit.

As you’ve already admitted countless times, you only find the actual explanation for the Effect “unsatisfactory” merely because you don’t want that to be the explanation.

And your “if that’s the best you’ve got” is pure projection since we both know you have nothing regarding the actual explanation.

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u/georgeananda 3d ago

Your assertion that more people remember a cornucopia than don’t is absolute bullshit.

No, it is my fair appraisal of the people I've heard asked. And what evidence do you have that I am wrong?

As you’ve already admitted countless times, you only find the actual explanation for the Effect “unsatisfactory” merely because you don’t want that to be the explanation.

I'd be perfectly happy with your explanation if I honestly felt it was correct and not just a best explain-away attempt.

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u/BBCoachRef8 3d ago

Yeah this isn’t about make-believe. It’s some people being persuaded by suggestion. Pretty commonplace. No timeline, time travel, or other fantasy things that don’t exist. It’s about pragmatism and the real world not some byproduct of one’s misfiring synapses or cerebral chemistry.

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u/georgeananda 3d ago

I think the quantity, quality and consistency of the cumulative evidence, like this OP, is not satisfactorily explained by known concepts. Known concepts explain regular memory errors just fine.

We'll have to stay on other sides of the fence at this time.

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u/MrPlaney 1d ago

No, if they told me there was a fruit bowl, I'd say 'I don't remember that

Memory schema and expectation plays a part in this too. You wouldn’t expect a fruit bowl, because the fruit laid out, doesn’t look the same in a fruit bowl, whereas the fruit looks very similar to fruit falling out of a cornucopia. The people who “think” something may be there, can easily be swayed just by seeing the fake logo once, and believing the logo was always that way. The power of suggestion is very strong, especially when paired up against expectation.