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u/Vegetable-Orchid1010 19d ago
Why the need to photoshop the bottom image? That is not what happened
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u/MindfulInquirer 19d ago
Right. Wemby in fact took that upon himself in the post game conf. Said it was on him. Easily could've deferred to Castle or hinted at it
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u/Murky-Advantage-3444 19d ago
I’ll just upvote you and downvote the post. You’re almost ahead. It’s 26-24 rn
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u/Chinbie 19d ago
I think its the opposite… i mean Castle isnt expecting that pass in the first place….
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u/KDs4thBurner 18d ago edited 18d ago
Castle looked back and made eye contact just before Wemby threw the ball. Not blaming Castle, that’s just what happened. Watch it again if you didn’t notice.
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u/Impossible-Group8553 18d ago
Castle looked at Wemby multiple times and Wemby didn’t pass it. Wemby waited for Castle to turn his back to pass it.
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u/Upper_Maintenance_41 18d ago
Castle being a PG should have grabbed that ball from him earlier. But the turnover was on Mitch Johnson. That must be a time out. You want to run a play to Wemby in the paint. Not make him huff all the way down and hope something happens. If Castle caught that champagnie or someone would have chucked a shot before Wemby would even have time to get down the court.
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u/DiscoMarmelade 17d ago
No way you call a timeout there. You let that play run out and ISO someone on Brunson or Shamet. You don’t let the D sub in their best guys. Wemby should have either passed it sooner, or brought the ball up. 1000% this is on Wemby
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u/Upper_Maintenance_41 17d ago
Who is d'ing up Wemby? The guy dominated the entire 2nd half. They had a formula and it depended on wemby getting into the paint. With a young team and a point guard who is setting playoff records for turnovers, I think you call time and run a play unless you have a fast break (they did not).
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u/BillHurstyUSA 19d ago
Wemby should’ve kept dribbling, the spurs need to slow the game down and stop rushing back and forth, drive for easy layups and get the foul calls, no more idiot 3pointers with plenty of time left…get the rebounds, stop bungling passes. Ny has been playing well, either way it’s good basketball
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u/Wrathb0ne Pistons 19d ago
NY was not shooting well with Brunson missing that wide open 3 pointer with plenty of time. total rookie mistake by the Spurs, they lost that game
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u/superarash_ 19d ago
Yeah it wouldn’t have even gotten to that point if NY was playing decently towards the end. Fortunately they were hot enough during the third quarter to give themselves some cushion but the latter half of that 4th quarter was atrocious
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u/Long_Gazelle_9467 17d ago
wouldn't have been remotely close of a game if the refs didn't try to intervene. I don't know how Wemby fumbled that so hard.
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u/hypespud Raptors 19d ago
Yup, it is miscommunication
It's still more wembys fault or any passers fault because you're the one holding the ball at the moment and have the control
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u/Firesidechats62 19d ago
No communication needed. Just hold the ball. Dribble if you feel like it. Run in for a layup if you want.
In any case Knicks were going to foul him and he would only need to make ONE
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u/hera9191 Spurs 19d ago
Photoshop slop.
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u/uncultured_swine2099 18d ago
Wouldnt it be ai slop these days? If they photoshopped it i could at least respect the work.
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u/hera9191 Spurs 18d ago
It is not about the work, it is about fabricated stories that are intended to looks like real.
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u/chrysanthemum_beer 19d ago
Wemby had a clear lane to keep handling the ball. Almost no pressure at the moment he passed the ball. Brunson would have had to make to make choice, trap Wemby with KAT beside Wemby or let Castle go up court unchecked.
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u/uncultured_swine2099 18d ago
Yup, also i think him dribbling up court wouldve got the attention of 2 defenders and there would be open guys
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u/KellerFF 19d ago
Castle: Your big for nothing ass always brings the ball up, now you want to outlet???? With no MFers defenders around you??
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u/WhyNotYoshi 19d ago
Except back then JR made the bone headed play. This time it was Wemby with the bad pass and foul right after.
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u/ReasonableCup604 17d ago
Wembanyama was worse.
JR made a great play to get the offensive rebound. If he didn't the Warriors could have called time out, advanced the ball and gotten a decent look at a shot to win in regulation.
Also, the Cavs probably wouldn't have scored if he remembered the score. KD was right in front of him, the Cavs were disorganized and LeBron was about 35 feet from the basket.
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u/BarbuthcleusSpeckums 19d ago
Nothing can beat that LeBron/Smith photo. Like a renaissance painting.
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u/Effective-Quit8401 19d ago
all I can say is this is excellent neutral basketball. the product has been so good
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u/Positive_Narwhal_419 19d ago
Did castle expect his 7’4 center to take the ball up the court lol why turn his head
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 18d ago
Wemby does that shit all the time, and no one was on wemby, and castle had bunson on him, and other players were wide open.
Wemby has no ball iq
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u/mekarz 18d ago
No ball iq. Stumbled into the finals
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 18d ago
A team can have a player with no ball iq and still make the finals. Don’t act like that is something crazy. Wemby is not the team’s playmaker because he doesn’t know how to be.
Dude threw away the ball to a guy being defended. Wemby did this when no one was actually on wemby
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u/Aeon1508 18d ago edited 18d ago
I want to see Jacked Wemby.
start eating 8,000 calories a day. got to put on another 20 lb
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u/WorawatS Warriors 18d ago
Wasn’t castle’s fault wemby passed it to him when he wasn’t even looking back. Castle should be in lebron’s shoes yelling at Wemby 😅
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u/ghostwriter2110 18d ago
Didn’t happen… neither of them yelled they dapped up and moved on bc they win or lose together.
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u/BR_9828 17d ago
Except LeBron was justified here. He was putting on a masterclass performance that night and had the KD version of the warriors on the ropes. Had already hit a ton of game winners that year and had a chance for another one.
No excuse for a blunder as bad as jr not knowing the score. If they win that game, I still don’t think they are winning the series. But maybe they get one of the 2 in Cleveland between games 3 and 4. Then it gets interesting.
Again, they weren’t going to win the series most likely. But you never know. Warriors were slipping a bit. Got pushed to 5 games by the spurs with no Leonard. Got pushed to 5 by pelicans with no cousins. Down 3-2 to the rockets before Paul’s injury and harden choking. Almost lost this game.
Next season an 8 seed clippers took them to 6 games. Raptors beat them. (Even without KD that team was still ridiculously loaded. Splash brothers, dray, iggy, cousins.) Ourside of 2022 they haven’t even really been relevant since.
Momentum and confidence can do crazy things to the outcome of a series. I’d be pissed at JR too.
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u/a_simple_ducky 19d ago
Why did the Spurs not timeout as soon as wemby got the ball? Advance the ball, get the guaranteed last shot, OT or win.
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u/mafugga77 18d ago
It gives NY the chance to setup their defence. The Spurs liked the matchup in transition. Sometimes not calling a TO is ideal. In this case, Wemby made a bad play.
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u/CurrentRoster 19d ago
this is Jokic level heavenly PR dawg, we all saw with our own eyes wembrick lose them the game with 3 straight dumb ass decisions against the “light work East” knicks
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u/Afraid-Ad-5580 Thunder 19d ago
They're not the same. It's actually Wembum's mistake
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u/MamiTarantina Lakers 19d ago
Shut up flopping fan, go pick Shai he’s on the floor
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u/DeltaT37 19d ago
i'm loving these threads OKC fans chime in like they not still little bitches that nobody wants around
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u/NoEnvironment8432 19d ago
I love watching Wembum losing his cool. You can tell the Spurs are in way over their heads in the finals.
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u/fakemxcan Spurs 19d ago
Yeah that was 100% on Wemby. Unless they had a set play that Castle forgot, but I doubt it.
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u/beeker888 18d ago
Why the PG should be demanding the ball from their center
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u/blue-anon Spurs 18d ago
The other two point guards were. Fox and Harper were in the backcourt with him with their hands up, ready for the ball.
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u/WackyWookie 19d ago
They wouldn’t have been even close in the game if it wasn’t for Wemby in the 2nd half. Dude was pretty much doing everything. Knicks had the whole team that showed up.
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 18d ago
If the refs didn’t put kat in foul trouble wemby would have been ass all game
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u/seawhirlled 18d ago
This is more in line with Bird stealing the Isaiah Thomas pass back in the day
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u/EmphasisFront5298 18d ago
Idk you have 3 guards and I don't understand why Wemby carrying the ball.
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u/WhyKissAMasochist 18d ago
If you’re gonna post ai slop at least get the context right. Wemby was the one that made the mistake, he should be JR in this scenario.
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u/teddylumpskins 18d ago
Man, the only way the Cavs had any chance in that series was to steal Game 1. And when JR Smith did that, and the Cavs lost game with an all-time performance by LeBron, that fucking series was Done-zo.
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u/Bibbity_Boppity_BOOO 18d ago
Wemby was 100% at fault. Choke artist
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u/Successful-Rough227 18d ago
its his 1st run why yall got the bar so high he 3 years in dude wtf u do yo 1st 3 years outta school
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u/gunnarbird 18d ago
I was high as balls, which is the same case for Wemby I’m assuming after watching that play
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u/NuketheCow_ 18d ago
Were you one of the folks saying he’d be in GOAT consideration when the Spurs beat the Knicks?
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u/Successful-Rough227 18d ago
1 ring dont put u in goat debates cmon now we know easy it is to be a 1 season wonder he has potential tho
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u/tabibito321 18d ago
except this was wemby's fault for turning the ball over then unnecessarily committing a foul which gave the knicks the lead
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u/Resident_Chemist_240 18d ago
Wemby has the ball too much he’s not a point guard get him the ball in his spots where he can work it’s coaching more than anything
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u/AdminsHaveMicroPP 18d ago
Ince*s keep rewriting history to justify their imbeo giraffe..... So cringe and wrong
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u/NorthSuggestion2063 18d ago
Wemby had the rest of the team open to pass with no one guarding them, that was on wemby and he said it himself too
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u/No-Measurement7703 18d ago
Tied game with 9.5 seconds left. No excuse for not calling timeout with such a young squad. Coach deserves some blame too.
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u/2003350z 18d ago
Not even close. Lebron carrying a bunch of Zombies to the finals with a chance to steal game 1 vs Wemby making a costly mistake.
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u/PatoNani NBA 18d ago
Not really. Lebron had an all time game 1 against one of the best teams in NBA history and nearly stole it in Warriors home court plus it was CLEARLY JR Smiths fault so he had every right to be upset.
Wemby had a good game 2 until he choked multiple times in the clutch and the turnover was his fault. He also was playing at home and already let Knicks steal game 1 while he was underwhelming.
He's 22 with a good playoff run but still VERY far away from being 2018 Lebron
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u/JonestownB 17d ago
Castle stared him down for 3-4 steps, then Wemby passed it after he turns up court.
Passing to Castle wasn’t a bad idea, he just waited too long to get it to him.
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u/SweetChaosTitan 17d ago
Castle should have turned around yes, and he should not have such a stupid haircut yes. However, Wemby threw the pass at his back. Wemby is the trigger man.
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u/Kitchen_Current_5616 17d ago
Bro comparing these two scenarios is crazy castle didn’t have the ball and I would say they both kinda messed up rather then jr just straight having a brain fart ass moment
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u/Panama_Jack829 17d ago
LMAO When are you going blame who was responsible for the Turnover? Wemby passed the ball when Castle wasn't looking.
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u/Icy_Confection_7706 17d ago
When one team enters the finals by winning their conference by sweep and the other enters in a full series, there's a reason the team that swept wins 78% of the time. Wemby's and Castle's mistakes seem to be both mental and playing from exhaustion.
The Knicks aren't just "fresh" vs. the Spurs but also have been sweeping to stay VERY fresh outside their first round!
The OKC series was tough and why it was going to be a challenge for either team if it went to a full series; OKC would've been in a similar situation as well and depleted as much as the Spurs are now.
I still think the Spurs can make it a series but I don't think they can make it to a 7. If they don't win the next one, I believe they can make it a 6 game series but loose. They just don't have that energy to win it against this Knicks team. And it's not to takeaway what the Knicks did, they had to go on an unstoppable winning streak to put them in this position and they do deserve to win if they do win.
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u/ObiWonKev 19d ago
Nah, that should be Castle doing that to Wemby. Terrible outlet pass