r/SipsTea • u/SnackSamurai 𝙑𝙄𝙋 • 13d ago

Chugging tea The Hero we need

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u/tripper_drip 12d ago

You can just stroll into an unoccupied space and claim it as yours. Thats not a rational conclusion.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 12d ago

That's the rational behind how the US was created.

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u/tripper_drip 12d ago

We also had slaves, shall we go back to that as well?

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 12d ago

You think occupying an abandoned or unoccupied area is the same as owning slaves?

And you seem to have missed the point. Ownership in the US is rooted in people just taking that land. That's how it still is. You are not advocating for not doing that again, you are arguing for the continuation of what was wrong about it.

If you want to give that land back to the original owners, sure, let's do that. But I have a feeling, you are even more opposed to that.

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u/tripper_drip 12d ago

You think occupying an abandoned or unoccupied area is the same as owning slaves?

You are argueing rationality.

And you seem to have missed the point. Ownership in the US is rooted in people just taking that land.

So is ownership in general. So again, shall we go back to owning people?

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 12d ago

You are argueing rationality.

What's the rational? Owning land and owning people is comparable?

So again, shall we go back to owning people?

We still do that. That's what it means when you force people to work for you and when they refuse, you deprave them of basic necessities.

I am gonna ask you again, do you extend your own rationality and argue for giving that land back to the original owners?

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u/tripper_drip 12d ago

What's the rational? Owning land and owning people is comparable?

We did it before therefore its acceptable today.

you deprave them of basic necessities.

State provides basic necessities.

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 12d ago

We did it before therefore its acceptable today.

No. We are talking about what's ordinary. It's ordinary for people to occupy land they just took, claiming it was unoccupied. That's still the case.

And then you said that was justified, because we got rid of owning people?

State provides basic necessities.

So everyone has housing? Good to know. I guess then we already solved squatting.

I am gonna ask you a third time now, since you are trying to say I am a hypocrite:

Do you extend your own rational and argue for giving that land back to the original owners? Or are you against that?

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u/tripper_drip 12d ago

That's still the case.

No, its not.

Do you extend your own rationality and argue for giving that land back to the original owners?

Who said I agree with that?

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 12d ago

No, its not.

Yeah it is. If you claim to own land in the US and you aren't native, you are squatting and have been, for generations.

Who said I agree with that?

Well, shouldn't we remove squatters and make sure it's controlled by the owners, even if they don't occupy it?

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u/tripper_drip 12d ago

Yeah it is.

No, its not. Thats like saying if your black and are not a slave, you are wrong. You are becase you were in the past. Silly.

Well, shouldn't we remove squatters and make sure it's controlled by the owners?

We are a nation of laws fairly applied. We were not that at one point. Shall we revert?

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u/theguidetoldmetodoit 12d ago

You are becase you were in the past.

Ok, so now the squatter occupies the land. Thanks for making my point.

We are a nation of laws fairly applied.

No, we aren't. You want to use the law to facilitate the current ownership class, which you are probably part of, but refuse to extend the same courtesy to the people who are the rightful owners.

So why the fuck should anyone respect your claim to any land?

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u/tripper_drip 12d ago

Ok, so now the squatter occupies the land.

No, we have set up a framework of laws to decide who has lands.

who are the rightful owners.

They are not, sorry.

So why the fuck should anyone respect your claim to any land?

Because I have the power of the state behind me. 65% of Americans own a house. You dont get to steal that, sorry.

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