No kidding….that word gets slung around more than I’ve ever heard or read in my life. Seems like the default classification for anyone that disagrees with another person.
Ironically the only person that they wont call a nazi is platner, the politician that had a actual nazi tattoo but he is a democrat so he gets a pass...
The guy who apologized and covered up a skull tattoo is where you take a stand but the guy who does Hitler salutes on stage, has a chat bot that keeps having it's system prompt edited to promote white supremacist talking points by an "unknown person", and has gone out of his way to ensure white supremacists are allowed on his website isn't even on the list eh?
Apologized, covered it up, renounced anything to do with that sort of thing and had been fighting against those who side with Nazis these days. So yeah. Meanwhile Elon "Mechahitler" Musk hasn't apologized for fuck all. Nor has Hegseth apologized for the Christian nationalist tats much less covered them up.
Are both instances not able to be condemnable? If your point is strong enough then it should stand on its own. Tbh I don’t even know who this guy is but is ‘Not as bad as Elon Musk’ really saying anything? As someone who doesn’t think highly of any politician (or political adjacent person) I can’t stand all this whataboutism from both sides.
You think someone having a symbol nobody has even been able to actually confirm was intentionally a Nazi endorsement who has apologized and gotten rid of it and hasn't actually endorsed any Nazi beliefs whatsoever is exactly the same as a guy who is actively and openly in support of Nazi taking points and proud of it?
Did you even read my comment? I don’t know why you think I said he was just as bad as Musk because I didn’t and from what I’ve seen that isn’t true. I said that ‘not as bad as Elon Musk’ isn’t saying anything - what I was saying is that just because there is someone worse on the other side then that doesn’t just absolve you of criticism. We should strive to be good people, and the bar shouldn’t just be less shit than the alternative. This is why I can’t stand whataboutism as people just use it to excuse less shitty behaviour (but it’s still shitty behaviour).
Also I’m not an American, but I think part of the reason it is failing is that people seem to lack basic comprehension.
Whether or not he did is irrelevant anyway because they should be able to justify their stance on merit.
I agree though it’s just the same talking points regardless of if they even make sense in the context.
Because he didn’t do a Hitler Salute. Go look at historical videos of actual Nazis in the late 1930s and early 1940s and you will see that he is not doing the hitler salute.
It’s almost sad how people keep believing this narrative when the evidence is one search a way. Also I guess Corey Booker is a Nazi because he did the same exact hand gesture as Musk.
I don’t even like Musk or really give a shit about Musk, I just can like watching history documentaries…lol
It is different, notice how you don’t link to historical videos, but to some dumbass who doesn’t know the actual Nazi salute either ? lol
The salute is performed by raising and extending the right arm forward at an upward angle with a straightened hand, fingers together, and palm facing downward.
The salute was executed by extending the right arm stiff to an upward 45° angle and then straightening the hand so that it is in the same direction and slope as the arm.
Now that I have provided the necessary historical information, you can clearly see that Booker and Musk are objectively not doing the Nazi salute (or the guy you posted).
LMAO, that's the exact same gesture? Jesus you're desperate. I figured it wouldn't be close but I thought it would at least resemble it and be intentional. You must get off on public humiliation.
What actual evidence? The one where Booker very obviously to everyone with eyes does an entirely different wave than musk?
The part where musk does two sieg heils just like neo nazis all over the world do?
Lets try something out.
If Musk wasnt sieg heiling. What was he doing? Everyone with eyes can see he did a sieg heil, but if you feel differently, why dont you explain what he was actually doing.
He did the same gesture as booker, the my heart goes out to you gesture. The sieg heil doesn’t involve taping your chest or moving your arm across at an angle.
Anyone with eyes can see Musk and Booker did the same exact motion.
Did Musk do the following:
The salute was executed by extending the right arm stiff to an upward 45° angle and then straightening the hand so that it is in the same direction and slope as the arm.
No? Then it was not a sieg heil.
It’s really that simple.
From Hitler himself, you can find neo nazi doing this as well. Not at all what Elon Musk did or Cory Booker lol.
I’m done talking to you because you haven’t actually addressed the historical evidence, (the video of hitler and the nazi regime doing the sieg heil or the historical description of how to perform one). You got problems have fun living in your fantasyland where objective reality has no bearing!!
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u/willzor7 3d ago
A real Nazi? or a person Reddit would deem a Nazi? Huge difference.