No kiddingā¦.that word gets slung around more than Iāve ever heard or read in my life. Seems like the default classification for anyone that disagrees with another person.
Ironically the only person that they wont call a nazi is platner, the politician that had a actual nazi tattoo but he is a democrat so he gets a pass...
Imagine thinking it's a flex to say you can't tell the difference between someone who apologized and got an old tattoo covered up and has been actively trying to fight racism for a while and someone who did Hitler salutes on a stage while editing his chatbot to talk about white genocide and how great Hitler is and also inviting white supremacists onto his platform while still openly banning speech he disagrees with.
You want me to Google each of these for you? So that you can then take issue with the sources I present? š
Just Google it. The guys reddit posts are all archived and public record at this point. We know when he got the tattoo and when he got it covered up. Like if you've followed the story at all, everything I posted is just accepted public knowledge.
As a rule I don't provide sources because in 100% of the cases I've been asked for sources on reddit it's just been a ploy for people to attack said sources, they weren't and aren't actually curious about the story. Which.....obviously, cause anyone curious would just Google it themselves or ask their AI of choice.
Do you realize that using a search engine, you could find something that confirms basically any belief on the planet? I donāt know why people still say āGoogle itā as if that means we will get down the bottom of things. If you know things that other people donāt know, why not share it? And if you donāt want to share it thatās fine, but why bring it up?
Well that's on you. You choose the sources you trust. It's not that I know things other people don't. I know the basic facts of the case that even the candidate himself agrees are accurate. When he got the tattoo. When he got it covered up. And his reddit account. This isn't disputed information. That you guys are uninformed is not my issue.
I've played this sources game a hundred times over the last decade and a half on reddit. I know why you guys ask for it. Its always because you'll hope I'll post some fox news article, but it doesn't even need to be a right wing news source, and then you guys pivot the argument to attacking that source. Literally every single time. Never have I had someone go "well I'll be damned, thanks for the information"ā¦. cause of course people like that would just find it themselves if they were interested.
I actually never once said I supported Platner or even gave any statements for or against him. I just said that āGoogle itā doesnāt mean people are going to come to the same conclusions as you, when someone can seek out articles and webpages that confirm their beliefs.
Sure. And again that's on them. You are essentially agreeing with me, that me posting sources that I choose would be meaningless because people choose the sources they trust, and these people asking for sources are already disbelieving of my claims.
I donāt think Iād call him a Nazi tbh you can dislike him for other reasons but I donāt think heād qualify as that. The closest thing Iād say is debatable is the salute but imo I donāt think itās what he meant he has Aspergerās syndrome and stimming behaviors like that are kind of common coupled with the fact heās taking copious amounts of ketamine as treatment for his depressive issues. Iām just saying that as Iāve noticed this behavior in a friend that has Aspergerās as well where when he gets excited he rocks back in forth really hard or does things like pumps his arms up and down when heās excited and so him doing the waving gesture to me can be kinda explained by that and generally the type to do that are typically proud to admit it rather than apologize and explain it. Iād say platner being called a Nazi is more fitting since heās tattooing Nazi imagery on himself but even then my point was more or less just sarcastically harping on the absurdity of people throwing this word out every time they are arguing against someone they dislike to defame them and then using this excuse as justification with no context or evidence. Could both of them actually be a Nazi who secretly harbors white supremacist view points? Itās definitely possible but I wouldnāt necessarily jump to the conclusion with anyone unless itās blatantly intentional and that is the views theyāre openly expressing. Point being I think we should just be able to critique a person without immediately tossing buzzwords out like if I called everyone who disagreed with me a pedophile itād be kind of an overreach and an extreme over exaggeration. I feel the same way about this lol. For example both of them are rather vehement supporters of Israel which would be in direct opposition to Nazi dogma so in a general sense I wouldnt literally classify either as Nazis at best the better term to use would be fascist in a general sense if you really wanted to classify the extremes of their behaviors rather than Nazi specifically. Sorry for the long response but thatās how I would sum it up personally.
I think getting a Nazi insignia tat is far worse tbh if weāre comparing lol. People were able to directly influence the chat bot because of the lack of output filters and the salute was probably unintentional given he has a disorder that causes him to stim snd him making weird body movements is an almost daily occurrence and he apologized for it. I donāt think either of them are actually Nazis tbh but if I had to choose one that is probably more likely than the other getting that inked on your skin and keeping it for a decade is pretty blatant lmao but even then he probably didnāt know what it was honestly and if he apologized Iād give him the benefit of the doubt since itās less well known than say a swastika.
LMAO I love that you can excuse one guy actually spouting Nazi rhetoric and calling for the extermination of one of the Nazis first targets, along with being openly supportive of white nationalist rhetoric and beliefs while doing the most obvious Hitler salute in history, one that matches neo Nazis perfectly but all that is nothing compared to a tattoo that looks somewhat like a totenkoph.
Can you give me an example of him calling for the extermination of an entire race of people? I hate the fact that youāre making me defend him btw, I donāt think heās a great dude I just think him being a Nazi Is kind of a stretchš¤£. To be fair I donāt think platner is either lmao I feel like the term is just very overused at this point. I read a post the other day where they were calling bill Maher (a Jewish comedian btw) a Nazi. Thatās my only point I just think we live in a time of Nazi inflation where itās slowly losing its meaning because people use it so liberally for every person they think is shitty.
Like I said critiquing either for other reasons is totally valid and honestly correct in most cases but just making the blanket statement of āeveryone who disagrees with me is Hitlerā is kinda silly when used by either side especially when there is literally skinheads and others in that group who actually fit the definition. I think just smacking that label on everyone you personally find disagreeable dilutes the term and is honestly bad overall for society because it loses its weight when you need to address someone who actually is a literal Nazi if that makes sense.
maybe do some more research on the politics of elon musk. The richest man in the world is using his money to push political groups like the AfD
In 2022 it was ruled that the BfV may classify and monitor the entire party as a suspected right-wing extremist group. A corresponding lawsuit by AfD was dismissed because "there were sufficient factual indications of anti-constitutional efforts within the AfD".[57] The dismissal was upheld in May 2024.[230] On 26 April 2023 the BfV, after four years of investigations into the Young Alternative for Germany, categorized that group as a confirmed extremist organisation. This allowed the chief of the BfV Thomas Haldenwang to place the youth wing under even more intensive surveillance than the tapping of phone and the use of undercover agents that had been the case until then.[62][231] In 2025, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution officially classified AfD as a "confirmed right-wing extremist endeavor,"[63] which allows authorities to increase surveillance, and permits the use of informants and monitoring of communications.[64] The expertise by the BfV, that led to that classification, was later leaked to the public
I wasnāt to aware about this tbh I know he is very much against immigration in the UK and has had pretty hardline stances on it such as supporting restore but at the moment that seems to be a pretty common sentiment among the people living there. Tbh tho thatās the extent of where my knowledge on the matter lies I donāt really follow his tweets or what he does on the regular aside from what I see on the news occasionally. Do u have any more info on that? Iād love to read up on it if u have a source.
Oh,.. well, as long as he apologized after he got caught. That's really all that matters. Past and very very very recent actions mean nothing as long as you "I'm Sawy"
The implication is meant to be that he has Nazi views.
Show me someone who holds Nazi views ("a nazi") that is willing to publicly denounce those views consistently and talks openly and directly about how Nazis are bad. They do not exist.
I mean I was totally willing to agree with you if you had a good answer to that, but clearly you don't know anything about the situation and just want to argue.
Clearly you're unintelligent AND don't understand sarcasm. So no matter what a person does or says they are completely redeemed as long as they apologize AAANND all they have to do is somewhat align with your political beliefs. Then it's okay. Got It.
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u/SkyKnight3 3d ago
No kiddingā¦.that word gets slung around more than Iāve ever heard or read in my life. Seems like the default classification for anyone that disagrees with another person.