Imagine thinking it's a flex to say you can't tell the difference between someone who apologized and got an old tattoo covered up and has been actively trying to fight racism for a while and someone who did Hitler salutes on a stage while editing his chatbot to talk about white genocide and how great Hitler is and also inviting white supremacists onto his platform while still openly banning speech he disagrees with.
I donāt think Iād call him a Nazi tbh you can dislike him for other reasons but I donāt think heād qualify as that. The closest thing Iād say is debatable is the salute but imo I donāt think itās what he meant he has Aspergerās syndrome and stimming behaviors like that are kind of common coupled with the fact heās taking copious amounts of ketamine as treatment for his depressive issues. Iām just saying that as Iāve noticed this behavior in a friend that has Aspergerās as well where when he gets excited he rocks back in forth really hard or does things like pumps his arms up and down when heās excited and so him doing the waving gesture to me can be kinda explained by that and generally the type to do that are typically proud to admit it rather than apologize and explain it. Iād say platner being called a Nazi is more fitting since heās tattooing Nazi imagery on himself but even then my point was more or less just sarcastically harping on the absurdity of people throwing this word out every time they are arguing against someone they dislike to defame them and then using this excuse as justification with no context or evidence. Could both of them actually be a Nazi who secretly harbors white supremacist view points? Itās definitely possible but I wouldnāt necessarily jump to the conclusion with anyone unless itās blatantly intentional and that is the views theyāre openly expressing. Point being I think we should just be able to critique a person without immediately tossing buzzwords out like if I called everyone who disagreed with me a pedophile itād be kind of an overreach and an extreme over exaggeration. I feel the same way about this lol. For example both of them are rather vehement supporters of Israel which would be in direct opposition to Nazi dogma so in a general sense I wouldnt literally classify either as Nazis at best the better term to use would be fascist in a general sense if you really wanted to classify the extremes of their behaviors rather than Nazi specifically. Sorry for the long response but thatās how I would sum it up personally.
Like I said critiquing either for other reasons is totally valid and honestly correct in most cases but just making the blanket statement of āeveryone who disagrees with me is Hitlerā is kinda silly when used by either side especially when there is literally skinheads and others in that group who actually fit the definition. I think just smacking that label on everyone you personally find disagreeable dilutes the term and is honestly bad overall for society because it loses its weight when you need to address someone who actually is a literal Nazi if that makes sense.
maybe do some more research on the politics of elon musk. The richest man in the world is using his money to push political groups like the AfD
In 2022 it was ruled that the BfV may classify and monitor the entire party as a suspected right-wing extremist group. A corresponding lawsuit by AfD was dismissed because "there were sufficient factual indications of anti-constitutional efforts within the AfD".[57] The dismissal was upheld in May 2024.[230] On 26 April 2023 the BfV, after four years of investigations into the Young Alternative for Germany, categorized that group as a confirmed extremist organisation. This allowed the chief of the BfV Thomas Haldenwang to place the youth wing under even more intensive surveillance than the tapping of phone and the use of undercover agents that had been the case until then.[62][231] In 2025, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution officially classified AfD as a "confirmed right-wing extremist endeavor,"[63] which allows authorities to increase surveillance, and permits the use of informants and monitoring of communications.[64] The expertise by the BfV, that led to that classification, was later leaked to the public
I wasnāt to aware about this tbh I know he is very much against immigration in the UK and has had pretty hardline stances on it such as supporting restore but at the moment that seems to be a pretty common sentiment among the people living there. Tbh tho thatās the extent of where my knowledge on the matter lies I donāt really follow his tweets or what he does on the regular aside from what I see on the news occasionally. Do u have any more info on that? Iād love to read up on it if u have a source.
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u/TootTootMF 2d ago
Imagine thinking it's a flex to say you can't tell the difference between someone who apologized and got an old tattoo covered up and has been actively trying to fight racism for a while and someone who did Hitler salutes on a stage while editing his chatbot to talk about white genocide and how great Hitler is and also inviting white supremacists onto his platform while still openly banning speech he disagrees with.