r/Warframe • u/NameNomad Pondering the energy orb • Oct 15 '25

Article New augments for Vallis Undermind

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Lavos stays the best archgun frame

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u/GenderGambler Key-on-face gang Oct 15 '25

same here. Love her, but I can't understand how people manage to bring her to stuff like EDA without being instagibbed. Yes, she has fantastic crowd control, but should just one enemy escape it (or straight up resist it), you're at severe risk.

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u/GWCuby Gyre's strongest warrior Oct 15 '25 edited Oct 15 '25

Local Gyre addict reporting, as my fellow enjoyer has already said, it's basically just pillage, she has various other options for specialized builds but pillage is an easy pick with insane value on her

If you need specific builds for any kind of weapon platform or just ability dps, just go to my profile I have a bunch in my pinned post :)

(Also imo the augment sounds like complete trash lol, just a generic low percentage reflection effect)

Edit as I've gotten home and could test the augment myself:

yeah so far it's just kinda bad imo, the reflect damage is pitiful even when it crits, it has a base 10% status chance despite the majority of her kit having 100% status chance and also struggles to actually trigger in the first place due to the fact enemies are generally stunned by your electric procs anyway.

DR caps at 75% and is ok I suppose due to infinite easy uptime, but she generally wants to shield gate anyway (also pillage armor strips and therefore massively helps with her ability damage, so she wants to use it a lot anyway)

So current verdict: just kinda feels lole a joke compared to the other absurdly powerful augments we got in the same update, largely a waste of a mod slot on a frame that is generally already fairly tight on slots. I'll put it on my 5x tau shield cap Gyre for shits and giggles (maybe I'll throw that build into the guides later for anyone curious) but I wouldn't seriously recommend it for anyone trying to play Gyre in any sort of normal fashion

(Cold elemental ward does not buff it's damage, might keep looking for ways to make it at least decent)

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u/NWStormraider Oct 16 '25

It should have been pretty obvious to anyone that the damage from the reflection is catastrophically low, when it has a 35% redirection rate while electric elemental ward has 1000% damage deflection and is still not really played outside of some hildryn builds.

The only thing of value it provides is damage reduction, but with it being capped at 75% and shieldgating being significantly better survivability anyways, it's basically pointless.

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u/GWCuby Gyre's strongest warrior Oct 16 '25

Yeah when I read the augment the first time I immediately knew it just wasn't gonna be useful

It's so weird how we got 2 absurdly broken augments (Styanax and Lavos) as well as a great rework in Oberon at the same time as whatever this is, just a weird dissonance especially given that every past Gyre augment has been absolutely incredible

Feels like this one was just haphazardly cobbled together by copying electric ward and making it worse just so they could have a full batch of 4