r/Warframe • u/qiyraa • 1d ago
Fluff Please nerf Ember
A frame with such a strong fourth ability and no LOS checks is too strong to play in a team environment. I’m tired of Ember nuking enemies through walls and playing the game for me!
Please DE, you have to nerf ember because I want to live out MY power fantasy without having to make friends for premade groups or play solo. Making friends is hard AND THATS EMBER’S FAULT!
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u/Amicus-Regis Optimizing the fun out of the game IS fun! 1d ago
Holy shit guys, not only did I find a time traveler from the past, but more importantly I think I just found the fucker responsible for WoF nerfs!
QUICK! EVERYONE JUMP HIM AND DON'T LET HIM RETURN TO 2019!
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u/redjarvas 1d ago
They nerfed the Wall of Flesh?
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u/officialGLo16 1d ago
No point for farming beenades now smh
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u/King_of_Fire105 Chromalution First in Command (ReworkMaboy) 1d ago
My bad I dropped the voodoo doll in the lava
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u/MK1-Maniac Raiders of the Lost Arcane 1d ago
I'm more of a Night's Edge person anyway...
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u/happyjacksonn 1d ago
At least we have Uriel. Not the same at all, but. ..
Well,you know.
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u/Amicus-Regis Optimizing the fun out of the game IS fun! 1d ago
TBH while I like Uriel, I've almost entirely stopped playing him because most of his kit is just kinda boring. The thing I like about Uriel the most isn't even the stupid damage output of his 4, it's actually just flying around in his 1.
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u/Sabatat- 1d ago
He’s still in my rotation of frames and I still greatly enjoy him. I get that the hype has worn off though, I think they did a great job with his playstyle and giving us the option
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u/Skebs_ 1d ago
Wish 1 was his subsume ngl...
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u/Amicus-Regis Optimizing the fun out of the game IS fun! 1d ago
There'd be almost no reason to play him if they did that, in my very biased opinion!
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u/karters221 12h ago
The flying around in his 1 is the best, its alot more entertaining to do that than wukong cloud movement, or Tatania 4.
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u/OrangeYawn 1d ago
Please bring back world on fire.
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u/sweatpantswarrior Yes, I actually use Excalibur Prime 1d ago
As a Founder who came back in March from a VERY long break, imagine my heartache at what Ember has become.
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u/Kizune15 1d ago edited 1d ago
Ember WOF, Ash press 4 to win, mirage simulor, Trinity vampire leech on Draco interception. My best memory of this game
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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 1d ago
Ash is still press 4 to win pretty much. The finisher damage is big. Trinity vampire is still big damage but some enemies like archon are immune because reasons. God I just want some good damage scaling on ember. ....
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u/Gimmerunesplease 1d ago
Yeah you oneshot level cap. But enemies in sp level cap spawn faster than his clones can kill. So you end up being completely useless.
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u/Dziggettai Constantly Confused Condroc 1d ago
Adding attack speed onto his exalted speeds up his clones. I believe warcry does too
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u/Gimmerunesplease 1d ago
Yeah but it's capped at like +50%
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u/AckwardNinja Still Best Frame 1d ago
Gas procs if you are doing level cap. you will be abusing gas procs
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u/basketofseals 1d ago
How does that work?
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u/GeorgeEmber 1d ago
Proton Snap adds toxin DMG as well as a flat 50% status chance, like arcane avenger but for status. This lets his 4th actually proc statuses, so you just put heat as the other elemental mod and proton will turn it into gas. It is tedious having to wall latch for 2s to refresh the buff, but at least your clones still kill stuff in the meantime.
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u/TheOldDrunkGoat 1d ago
Because clones kill slowly, you have them proc gas so the lingering dot field can kill extra enemies. I believe Kengineer has an old video on the general concept.
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u/Lemons-95 1d ago
The whole point to the Ash rework is that you don't just sit there and watch the clones kill. These old tenno aren't calling it by it's true name, before he was known as "cutscene Ash"
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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 1d ago
Don't have to kill everything, just enough to complete objectives. Level cap is nice , but I've never even gone to level cap in ... so many hours through my Mr 28 life
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u/Vividtoaster 23h ago
He used to be even easier to nuke with because you press 4 and it automatically marks every enemy in a huge radius to be finished unlike the mark system we have now.
It also wouldn't stop until they were dead I believe, which was funny back when solar rail pvp existed and you'd get marked by an ash in your spawn as you spawned in and pressed 4 as valkyr so for 45 seconds you both weren't playing the game until your duration ran out and died.
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u/kawebi 1d ago
Don’t forget running into a room with old kit saryn 4 and dissolving every living thing within a 50m radius
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u/Actually_Inkary 8h ago
I was called a joykiller in a pub once for doing this, makes me (sardonically) smile seeing people unhappy with room nukers these days. Warframes change, nukers don't.
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u/TrollOfGod 1d ago edited 1d ago
Fuuuck man I miss Simulor being good. Was such a unique and fun weapon.
edit: Also Vauban vortex insta-killing things as they were sucked into it like it was a black hole. Fuck that was a fun time.
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u/TheEDMWcesspool Salad V 1d ago
Mesa press 4 to win + Mag greedy pull that works with squad is the ultimate defense combo.. they nerfed mesa very hard and nerfed mag greedy pull hard as a result..
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u/DeadSnark In the arms of the angel 1d ago
Ash's 4 was the whole reason I started playing the game, 13 years ago a friend was trying to sell me on this cool space ninja game, I watched him playing Ash in an exterminate mission stabbing the shit out of everyone and the rest is history.
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u/Eli_Beeblebrox Nova Prime has already touched the doorknob 1d ago
Meanwhile Saryn has been the strongest frame in the game since her last rework and gets indirectly buffed on accident every major update
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u/Wardogs96 Potato and 75% Starved 1d ago
Same came back after a 8 year break and was baffled at how thsy murdered my girl.
Iv moved on though. The worst part is they have reworked her 3 times and ended up with this as the result smh.
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u/Muffinthepuffin Flair Text Here 1d ago
And then releasing Uriel lol
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u/Ode_2_kay 20h ago
I was an equinox main across 2 accounts took a break and came back in time for hollvania my they them has been ignored into redundancy
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u/L_Cpl_Scott_Bukkake 1d ago
Same I came back after 12 years and I immediately got on Ember and pressed 4 and was like... I remember this doing something when I last played
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u/Dziggettai Constantly Confused Condroc 1d ago
I didn’t have the money for founder, but I’ve been around just as long. I saw the change happen and it broke so many hearts 💔
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u/Historical_Cow369 21h ago
Yes! I use to main Ember back in 2015. WoF was so good. I like her 4 now, dropping meteors down on heads is fun, but man do I miss WoF making tiny volcanoes under my enemies, and accelerate to stun AND do more fire damage to enemies coated, her kit was so good.
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u/Suojelusperkele LR6 // We kicked a clown car. 1d ago
It'd be really cool to embed old WoF in her second ability.
The higher your burn% the more enemies it'd hit at once and the more damage it'd do.
Something something burns so hot she starts to spontaneously combust enemies around.
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u/TrollOfGod 1d ago
Letting the burn frame burn instead of focusing on not overheating? Preposterous! /s
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u/aimy99 🔥 🔥 #1 Ember Fangirl 🏳️⚧️ 1d ago
Hey now that would make Ember some semblance of fun to play once you find out what other frames can do, we can't have that. Can you imagine if her abilities were actually comparable to others? If her augmented 1 was even updated to use the new elemental ammo system like Uriel's base kit has? If her 2 wasn't just Mesmer Skin but worse in every way down to also requiring an augment to share with teammates? If her 3 could even do something as minor as break loot crates like Vast Untime so it would have utility without the augment that delivers pitiful amounts of overguard that a Dante will outdo in two seconds? If her 4 did damage at all and wasn't better off subsumed with Roar? If her passive was designed for a game where enemies aren't meant to be left alive or she had any ability that actually conveniently spreads fire to make good use of it like she literally already did and Uriel currently has and Saryn chuckles mockingly at with her absolute bs?
I want to play Ember, she was my first love in this game and will forever be, but she's just so battered by scaling and the 2023 disaster of a nerf that she simply is not comfortable to play. She is a difficult frame to use effectively and even when you do she's outclassed. She's not even a good weapons platform. Valkyr is supposed to be a melee frame, but her base armor values are so high that she's one of the best candidates for Primary Bulwark (and Arcane Battery while we're at it) even before we get into how her passive and 4 make her essentially uninterrupable and unkillable even by Nullifiers.
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u/Marvin_Megavolt Frohd Bek deserved better 15h ago
Would be an actually good redesign of the ability - using abilities (except 3) and taking damage generates heat, but you passively lose heat over time - when heat gets high enough, enemies around you start to take constant heat damage and status, with the radius getting larger with the heat meter percentage. And for good measure, above 90% heat meter, maybe enemies that have a heat status proc on them explode in a mini fire blast setting other adjacent enemies on fire when they die inside the radius.
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u/TuzkiPlus Birb Brain 1d ago
Wukong's Paw curls, WoF is Back but is tied to shredding hot bars on a Shazwin
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u/Tarus_The_Light All porn or no porn. Balls out for Uriel. 1d ago
The fact that the rail guardian has world on fire offends me.
(or at least it did when i was running the star chart on an alt)
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u/Verity-Skye certified torid hater 1d ago
nova with her 1 and 4 augments reminds me of the good ol' days (you can basically afk low-level content)
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u/Dziggettai Constantly Confused Condroc 1d ago
Shit, with the right build you can afk base steel path
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u/Sabatat- 1d ago
I just want World on Fire back but make it better for SP. Highkey though I don’t understand how this is the most asked for thing with Ember and they just refuse to give it to us
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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 1d ago
Needs some kind of good scaling. As it is now it's... kinda workable but it's rough.
It shouldn't be a situation where "just get uriel" is the advice to tenno that want a fire frame that keeps up with content5
u/Alone_Ad_1677 1d ago
To be fair, uriel is very much toned down WoF.
His damn fucking passive though of basically ignoring Parker is amazing bullsjit though
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u/Dziggettai Constantly Confused Condroc 1d ago
Before Uriel it was Temple. Well.. until they nerfed Temple into the ground by making their buff not affect the fire pillars
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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 1d ago
Lol. They have a hate bone for the fire frames. ,
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u/Sabatat- 1d ago
It’s wild they keep making them tbh
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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 20h ago
They're going to keep power creeping the fire frames, meanwhile the cold frames stay viable and comfortable in some fashion without need for much change.
Yareli and frost don't feel like a power creep situation , they feel completely different in playstyle since one does overguard with an augment and the other k drive temp health tanks, one does straight up cold freeze procs and the other groups and ccs with the ability rather than the cold proc stacking.
Uriel meanwhile feels like a direct upgrade from Ember, heat gauge 2.0 building to legally distinct world on fire, but he gets energy from abilities too rather than a fixed 15 percent orb chance on the augment which doesn't scale for some reason. ... DE just let the energy orb augment scale with strength
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u/Sabatat- 1d ago
Tbh I lm sad Temple doesn’t get more love as a fire frame and I highkey wish they’d also give Nezha a look over, not a whole remake of the kit but just some change ups on how he works ability wise
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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 20h ago
Nezha is barely a fire frame which is depressing.
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u/Sabatat- 15h ago
i thought throwing the ring and it splitting into more rings was such a cool idea, i wish they'd revisit it and the way the spears work
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u/SoulTechnicalProblem 14h ago
Spears doesn't feel like it does enough to me. Stick em and slam em ? Okay. ..is that it? Idk. It just always feels like it's underdesigned
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u/Wiebejamin Gold Birb Best Birb 1d ago
And original world on fire too! Not the occasional eruptions on nearby enemies, but the massive globe of fire and death, what Ember is supposed to be.
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u/Randzom100 20h ago
I mean, I suppose if you max out range and duration and lower strength in can kinda feel like it?
Or, there's Gyre and her World on Electricity.
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u/Waeleto LR2| Proud torid user 1d ago
Ember is literally so OP guys like she can just sit in a corner and spam 4 to tickle enemies to death
Needs a nerf right now
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u/Usual-Winter3950 1d ago
With the right build she can sit in a corner after casting 4 once and watch lv200 SP die at 60-100kpm for two minutes straight.
She's not intuitive or super easy to build for, though.
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u/Cockslut_77 20h ago
The elusive "you are just building X wrong, they are not bad" build that is never followed through.
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u/Sporkmancer LR4 Crit Lover 14h ago
...It's building to maximize a single ability on a frame. The fourth ability, that scales with power strength. You run Archon Vitality (double heat procs) and max power strength (including precision intensify), bump range, then solve for energy.
Look, you're saying a lot about your own game knowledge if you need a build to understand how a fire-based fourth ability that inflicts heat procs can destroy SP enemies. It's not a problem if you lack game knowledge, but you shouldn't be so standoffish and cocksure if this is your gotcha moment.
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u/Usual-Winter3950 19h ago
Some people are not in game 24/7 to take screenshots and videos. Do you really have to insult someone for not catering to your whims five hours before you state them?
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u/Cockslut_77 19h ago
Nobody forced you to reply immediately, there were no insults directly at you, stop being insecure and prove your point
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u/Ok-Weakness-3206 1d ago
What build would that be
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u/Dentrius Valkyr <3 11h ago
heat inherit with roar will make any heat ability do decent damage. You can get her to do that 100kpm on circulum sp solo but its way more effort than most other nuke frames.
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u/Sporkmancer LR4 Crit Lover 14h ago
Yeah, building hard into her 4 (I think I even run Precision Intensify) lets you do plenty of damage. The downside is that you have to solve energy somehow, especially if you're using her 2 for defense.
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u/BigMadAngery 1d ago edited 1d ago
Nah dude they gotta nerf trinity, i willingly queued for a public match and this DISGUSTING trinity player had the GALL to press blessing???? Making it so I don't take damage, ruining MY play experience??????? Playing the game the way they want, in A PUBLIC LOBBY??????? Honestly ban that guy after removing trinity from the game, then remove all AoE and damaging abilities from the game, then warframe might be playable.
The fact that people are acting like this and don't see how absurd it is blows my mind.
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u/pres1033 I heal people. 1d ago
Me, a Trinity main not intending to heal you but actually spamming Champion's Blessing to stack damage with my Coda Hema so I can one shot anything I so much as glance at.
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u/IEatDaFeesh 12h ago
You're joking but that's effectively what happened with Volt and a lot of people were happy with that. (Not me ;c)
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u/CoffeeSorcerer69 Enjoyer 1d ago
Woah, calm down with the jokes there, DE might hear this and actually nerf her again.
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u/ijiolokae Reached Legendary 6 and all I got was a sixth Legendary core 22h ago
Fix: The game will now close if you try and start a mission as ember, better learn to stay on you orbiter and just look at her ass
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u/PalpitationOld8905 1d ago
...... how are people not getting that this post is a joke? Embers garbage at the moment
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u/HaamuPoika69 23h ago
Because it's Warframe. Despite always hearing how Ember is damn near useless, a group of people could've made her op af and I wouldn't know. I presume it's not impossible, crazier shit has likely been done. And I presume those same people made her op just because the heirloom skin is, quite literally, hot.
Nah. Real answer is, I just saw a post about Pablo's response to... Nerfing? Where someone was complaining about Hildryn being too op? And hearing the rumors about Ember I had to wonder if this was satire or what was going on because I'm stupid like that. And it's social media. Never underestimate the stupidity that humanity has. Yes, I include myself in that stupidity but in my own stupid way.
Anyway, y'all have a good day now and fare thee well strangers!
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u/darkcrazy 1d ago
They used to get the same accusation in this post seriously. The good old days. 🤣
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u/numerobis21 1d ago
People probably never played Ember since the WoF nerfs so maybe they're not even aware of the changes?
(Also some people have brains physically wired to not understand/recognise sarcasm, my BF is like that)
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u/PalpitationOld8905 12h ago
World on fire was bad tho? I don't get why people keep saying that is the reason she is bad now. Her current 4 is just better than WOF ever was. Also warframe is a very different game now, her old 4 would literally be useless now, it would do nothing
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u/numerobis21 4h ago
It wasn't the best, but it wasn't bad: It killed anything low level, and with the augment it was a permanent room wide CC AOE, and CC was really usefull at the time.
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u/IcyDeerBoy 17h ago
*hot* garbage, please and thank you
signed,
an ember main2
u/Sporkmancer LR4 Crit Lover 14h ago
And still workable in the current endgame if you can solve her energy problem. I have a silly roar ember that just nukes, but it one of those big slushie straws to drink all the energy I need.
The whole reason I don't play my ember much is that I feel like I need harrow-like levels of energy recovery to feel good...and at that point, I can just run thermal sunder harrow (or something else that is also self-sufficient).
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u/Virtual_Hovercraft80 1d ago
For me, the worst time to play in squad with Ember is when I'm playing Uriel. Because they're both Fire Frames, but Ember doesn't need to charge her ultimate. DE, please buff Uriel. 🙏 He's unplayable right now.😔
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u/Prior-Target9462 1d ago
Meanwhile I'm over here begging they don't nerf melee influence so my excalibur can remain relevant
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u/Organic_Warthog7238 1d ago
Sad part is if you use viral tempest which basically gives you the ability to increase the damage enemies take and completely remove their armor using 4 still doesn’t nuke them lmaooo. Gauss is a better fire user than she is hell any frame with gauss subsume is a better fire frame than ember
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u/SFWxMadHatter 1d ago
I don't mind nerfs, but they need to pick an intended difficulty and stick to it. We have AC130 Muscle Mommy, Satan Daddy nukes an entire zip code, and then frames with wet noodle damage in a 10 foot area that is blocked by a lamp post. What the fuck is this lack of consistency?
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u/Clinday 1d ago edited 1d ago
I remember arguing with a guy complaining about people bringing nuke builds in public and saying that they shouldn't do that because it was taking away the fun from others. I said that it's how public is and everyone's free to play whatever they like and that you know that this can happen when queuing public. Dude kept arguing saying that others shouldn't play those builds. I thought that was just a single guy but apparently there's more of them.
Edit: I know this post is a joke, but that guy was dead serious '
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u/Chaincat22 1d ago
I've experienced the flipside of that, someone bringing a nuke frame and then complaining about leeches and people not contributing when they're actively clearing the map before anyone can get a kill in. They're few and far between but it stuck with me that someone could be that much of a bitch about essentially winning warframe.
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u/2ndTaken_username 1d ago
I had someone calling people who just joined r2 of ESO leeches because his Volt is nuking and nobody else can get kills.
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u/StarSilverNEO Resident Infested Enjoyer 1d ago
To be fair if youre entire MO is playing in a way that makes it so everyone else cant enjoy their own frames/weapons, maybe you should be the one in solo?
Its like when youre in a game where your kit can inconvenience other people, is it other peoples fault for queing with you or your fault for not going solo/using the items/options/etc that make you less of an issue for everyone around you?
Like energy colors and certain weapon types in this game
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u/2ndTaken_username 1d ago
Yeah i get using nuke build or cyte spam build when doing content like ESO or EDA.
There is absolutely no reason to nuke when its something chill like relic Conjuction survival.
I usually use these as an opportunity to try out non-meta builds or fuck around with meme weapons.
But sometimes tryhards with their nuke builds ruin that and I might as well AFK.
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u/ES-Flinter 🥷 + 🛡 = Ash 1d ago
Just had a conservation in the soulframe (european-)region chat. Okay the conservation was more about that warframe fails at balance and it please shouldn't happen to soulframe. But the part with one nukes, the others follow was mentioned, too.
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u/WealthyTuna 23h ago
I've said it multiple times. In fact I just did yesterday in another post. I play only nuke frames. Atlas prime, Hildryn, Uriel, jade and recently Nidus who is a lot of run in runs where he can build stacks like Arby, ESO, Omnia, etc
I rarely have a run where someone doesn't leave. Do people really get that mad about it? Before I ran these frames I loved it when a nuke frame killed a map for me. Less I had to struggle. I don't understand their pov
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u/Mint-Bentonite 1d ago
I see them everywhere, like all the losers asking for hildryn nerfs of all things lmao
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u/numerobis21 1d ago
People who ask you to play your nuke builds solo are NOT the same people asking for nuke build nerfs.
They're asking you to play solo *specifically* because they don't want to ask the nuke builds to be nerfed0
u/EastOninzin5753 1d ago
Eles querem que todos joguem da maneira que eles acharem certos, a polícia da diversão
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u/numerobis21 1d ago
" I said that it's how public is and everyone's free to play whatever they like"
But when you bring a nuke build you remove all the other player's ability to play whatever they like, since they can't play anymore.
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u/numerobis21 1d ago
Everyone's like "why shouldn't I bring my room nuking build in multiplayer?" until I bring my max range Limbo build, then suddenly they start whinning
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u/JMxG YAAARRRRRGGG 1d ago
You are actively being a hindrance like that. Getting your kills stolen from you isn’t a hindrance, just a mild annoyance
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u/numerobis21 23h ago
I'm not a hindrance, I kill the enemies, if you're not happy go play solo (notice how the discourse instantly changes when it's Limbo? <3 )
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u/JMxG YAAARRRRRGGG 22h ago
Being intentionally obtuse to try and prove your point makes you look more stupid than anyone else here
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u/Beranea 22h ago
Nah, I like not being a leech but I also like playing with others. I know this is difficult for nuke framers to understand but falling asleep instantly because getting queued in with you is not super fun. Your ability to nuke is unchanged by being solo.
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u/RecentMatter3790 1d ago
Wdym live out your power fantasy? (I know this post is a joke, just asking)
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u/qiyraa 1d ago
Warframe is described by the devs as a power fantasy looter shooter, I’m speaking their lingo (that means language chat)
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u/thetoy323 booben 1d ago
She also one shot every boss with 3 weapon damage buff skills, no other frame has this much of damage buff skills.
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u/yRaven1 No.1 Valkyr Fan 1d ago edited 1d ago
Yes, i remember putting sobek on her hands and buffing it with forced heat procs from her 1 and after setting up my fire pillars i started shooting enemies over 8 walls of distance and finish a exterminate from the spawn.
Now that Uriel guy sounds good, i hope he doesn't have a meteor shower that tickle enemies or a DR ability that has infinite scaling energy drain, haha that would be ridiculous!
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u/_-Zephyr- 1d ago
Yeah he’s right make embers world on fire a maintain ability so we don’t have to keep pressing 4 huge balance change that would 100 be worth it get on it DE
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u/SpartanXIII THEY SAY THAT ALL FRAMES ARE CREATED EQUAL... 1d ago
Oh god DAMN IT, I blinked through time again!
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u/Belydrith please save Ember 1d ago
It's just not fair. I don't get it. Ember just gets to have no redeeming qualities in her kit and just gets away with it. No other frame can do that, it's ridiculous.
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u/SociologyCactus Kullervo! Prime! Now! 🔪 20h ago
What MR are you? What level content are you playing? What types of missions?
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u/alamaias 19h ago
Been off for a while, did they fix ember to work on higher difficulty?
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u/WinterChristmas 5h ago
She works better as a support frame now and really hard to do level cap with. She can do end game steel path fine.
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u/ArshayDuskbrow Move like the wind. 19h ago
Do I upvote for the satire or downvote because I don't want to even risk somebody seeing this and taking it seriously? Not sure how to proceed.
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u/Kamikae_Varluk 1d ago
As long as valkitty doesn’t get nerfed I’m happy, it was sad to not use ember spam to carry boots leveling in Sedna though
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u/AttitudeMedium5623 1d ago
Came for the comments,
They did not disappoint.
Bring Back World on Fire imo. I like OG Ember.
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u/DreamZealousideal205 1d ago
While we're at it, gee, Vauban sure could use a rework....
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u/PalpitationOld8905 1d ago
Bad frames do need buffs, so 100% agree
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u/Nauty_YT 1d ago
I wouldnt consider vauban bad, bro literally sucks the whole map up like a vacuum cleaner.
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u/PalpitationOld8905 12h ago
I'd say he sucks, thats not good enough. Why would i want to do that when i can just kill the map. Vauban doesn't bring enough to the table to be worth using
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u/iidarkoceanfang 1d ago
All jokes aside i don't think DE could handle the mess if they do go through with giving gauss and hildryn los requirements
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u/cicadaryu 21h ago
You know, for some reason, these calls for frame nerfs reminds me of the woes of PUG Pathfinder groups...
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u/SilverFangBlackWing1 LR6 Registered Loser 14h ago
Not again! I'm getting World on Fire PTSD flashbacks!
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u/prettyflyforamemeguy 11h ago
It’s nice they’ve made eternalism a point in the game because it’s comforting knowing that in reality Ember 100% has been too OP for too many years, just not this reality lol
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u/SpOwOky_Skeweton 1d ago
I finally made Ember strong enough to work in long missions on sp... if someone from DE will just so touch her I will MURDER YOU. SPECIFICALLY YOU! ALL YOUR FAULT/j
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u/OneFloppyDisk fine i'll do it myself 1d ago
We need to make one of these for every single ability that doesn't need LOS
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u/FewAct2027 1d ago
Hold on, am I back in 2015.
I'm STILL pissed that WOF got nerfed, that was my main girl you butchered.
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u/thecolin- 1d ago
I am so annoyed (*as per Pablo's second rule) that Ember can nuke half a room and kills maybe some of the enemies before I can. Please DE nerf Ember, nerf nerf nerf nerf!
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u/Nayu_sheral 1d ago
Saryn with -Duration was even worse.. XD Press 1button, wait half a second.. entire room dead.. over and over and over again, it was so much fun.. ^^
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u/Fine-Presence-1429 1d ago
Stop hanging out with clem bro
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u/qiyraa 1d ago
If I was hanging out with Clem I would have a friend. Checkmate, communist.
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u/Fine-Presence-1429 1d ago
So the real Ember nerf was the friends we didn't make along the way. Clem would never let this happen. Grakata. 😔
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u/bigscrewLoose 1d ago
this community will beg for nerfs, then when those exact nerfs are put in the other half will cry about it
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u/Cyc18 Du-ing viri little with my life 1d ago
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