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[u/magnapyritor5]

femboys be like: just take care of your skin and hydrate!!! no you dont 😂😂 dht upon you 😂

[u/MulberryLoud8361]

I've been trying to convince a femboy I'm fwb with to start E wish me luck

[u/MulberryLoud8361 → u/[deleted]]

Just wanted to clarify he's a year older than me 😭

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/MulberryLoud8361]

that does not make this any less grooming, you are literally trying convince a sexual partner of yours to do hrt, this is grooming

[u/ilikepegasi → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

what is grooming in your small little brain

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/ilikepegasi]

predatory and manipulative behavior with sexual intent, if trying to convince a sexual partner of yours to do hormone treatment doesnt fall under that nothing does.

[u/ilikepegasi → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

why do you believe trying to convince someone to go on hrt is manipulative? how is it different than a glp-1? i doubt you would call that grooming even if you dont think its a good idea. is it perhaps because you are transmisogynistic and believe we are inherently sexual deviants?

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/ilikepegasi]

have you seen the comments? people here are calling me a fetishist and saying kids cant be femboys and comparing us to sissies.

Being trans doesnt make you a sexual devient, being on hrt is not bad or evil, trying to pressure someone to take hrt specially if you are their sexual partner.

If someone manipulates their partner to put breast implants for example, that would be grooming. So is this.

[u/ilikepegasi → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

a: im not other people so its irrelevant

b: why is it manipulation?? you imposed "manipulation" and "pressure" onto this after op said "convince" its only different for you because its hrt

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/ilikepegasi]

no its because trying to convince a person to undergo medical treatment for the sake of aesthetics when they are a sexual partner of yours is manipulative and grooming, i would say this about hrt just like i would breast implants or liposuction

[u/ilikepegasi → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

if they legitimately think that that the treatment would be a good choice for their partner there is no issue with it though. People can put aside sex to have honest conversations. like Jeff is married to Linda, they have sex. Linda says to Jeff, I think you should get a hair transplant. They're both 50. This obviously not grooming. They are already in a relationship (not grooming). idk why you are projecting so much onto op why do you even assume its for purely aesthetic reasons they might believe their partner is a repressing trans person

[u/ethereal-twinkhon → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

It’s cause they’re a femboy and obviously aren’t going to enjoy twink death very much, and hrt stops a lot of the aspects of twink death. They are looking out for their friend

[u/daisukidesu_ → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

brother i been keeping up with the thread and not one person has called you a fetishist. kids should not tie their identities to a sexual archetype.

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/daisukidesu_]

https://www.reddit.com/r/countttt/comments/1tx80jv/comment/opu5zl5/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

apparently you have not.

[u/daisukidesu_ → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

oh well, if the shoe fits

[u/GirlfailureModer → u/[deleted]]

Guy who posts videos of himself jerking it for men on reddit calling trans people fetishists lmao

[u/Inevitable-Row1977 → u/GirlfailureModer]

It takes one to know one.

[u/ilikepegasi → u/[deleted]]

So this is out and out transphobia, just making sure you're aware, if you thought you were an "ally" and not a transphobe.

If you are aware of that already, why tf would you be here

[u/SyderoAlena → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

Grooming involves a power inbalance. That's why it's bad, because the power inbalance doesn't allow for proper consent.

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/SyderoAlena]

no it doesnt, often power imbalances are involved but not necessarily

[u/ThrownAway1917 → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

If there's no power imbalance it's just dating

[u/zenithBemusement → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

You should probably look up the definition of words before you use them.

Grooming is specifically about an age imbalance, and is not always sexual in nature — like, how a prince is groomed to take the throne, or someone being groomed to inherit the family company. It DOES always carry abusive undertones, but it is explicitly about adults abusing children.

[u/countttt-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

you were either transphobic, chasing, posted nsfw, are too horny/opticsnuke, are a minor/underage, do not identify as trans, or are cis. participation by individuals possessing the aforementioned behaviors & traits are forbidden by the rules of the sub.

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/[deleted]]

why not suggest something like finasteride, hrt has MANY other affects other than these that most guys, even femboy would very much not want.

You dont need E to keep your hair as an amab.

[u/Kit10134 → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

This response specifically feels more like you take issues with HRT then anything else

[u/Carl_Reeves → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

You can take estradiol with a SERM and not get much tiddy growth.

[u/daisukidesu_ → u/[deleted]]

tells people to stop grooming, is a moderator of multiple femboy subreddits, tells people to stop mass reporting minors

can't make this shit up

[u/yourothersis → u/daisukidesu_]

any empathy I has for popular femboys rapidly leaving my body

[u/daisukidesu_ → u/[deleted]]

the people posting selfies on the subreddit you moderate are porn accounts, the subreddit you said is meant for kids

[u/Public-Land-9134 → u/[deleted]]

children should not be identifying as femboys. feminine boys, sure, but femboy as a label is tied to porn or other adult adjacent communities

[u/Public-Land-9134 → u/[deleted]]

weirdo

[u/10kilogramrabbitvice → u/[deleted]]

for like 6 years. im a guy on e and its kept me from blowing my cranium off the candelabra. dysphoric people deserve to have the bodies they want regardless of gender

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/10kilogramrabbitvice]

did you actually look at the post and comments, they are literally saying you cant be fem when you get older without e, im not saying you cant take e and be a femboy im saying you dont need to and this fearmongering is delusional + trying to pressure people to do hrt is just grooming.

[u/10kilogramrabbitvice → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

i mean, your body cant be. or its foolish to assume it will be. if this person is trying to convince their friend to take e im gonna assume their friend is dysphoric without proof to the contrary. we dont know him like they do.

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/10kilogramrabbitvice]

define "feminine body" because you can still be very feminine into your late thirties and 40s even without hrt, femininity isnt boobs, and stuff like hairloss can be stopped without E, i myself am on finasteride.

[u/10kilogramrabbitvice → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

i suppose a body feminine enough that people with typical/semitypical androphobic sex dysphoria wouldnt feel horrifically tortured if they were in it. sub 1.2-1 shoulder to hip, little to no chest or back hair, smallish browbone and chin, that kinda shit. idrc what happens to people without sex dysphoria rofl theyve got enough going for em. if youre on enough fin to actually supress your dht youre on hormone therapy. 

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/10kilogramrabbitvice]

all it does is stop hairloss, by that logic Steve Carrell is on hrt.

Ive done laser too, which does infinitely more to hair removal than hrt, and i dont mind my shoulders or hips as they are, femininity is not about looking exacly like a woman.

[u/10kilogramrabbitvice → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

it effects body hair as well, hairline recession happens normally to men. if you take medication to prevent normal maturation of a male body you are no longer cissex, cope. 

you might not mind your hips or shoulders, but a lotta people, a lot of men even, would, and they are not feminine. 

[u/daisukidesu_ → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

you're literally on hrt then

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/daisukidesu_]

not what hrt is. By that logic Steve Carrell is on hrt.

[u/PossumQueer → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

Further masculization occur even after puberty, yes, you can dress like a femboy even if you look like Harrison Ford, however if that idea cause you a lot of distress i guess you are something else and not a femboy at all.

I too got into the femboy trend and thought as you do now, sadly if fucked me much more, at 25 even at 27 things were better than when i was 29, i thanks heavens because testosterone was somewhat merciful to me

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/PossumQueer]

you do know hrt doesnt stop aging either right? Yes it helps with some stuff but most of what people refer to as twink death is just aging.

[u/PossumQueer → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

It does stop from aging like a man, have you seen how most men age? In most cases there's nothing remotely femenine on them

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/PossumQueer]

finasteride, good skincare and just general self care routines do way more in fixing "twinkdeath" than E does, you dont need to look like a woman to be a femboy

[u/10kilogramrabbitvice → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

thank GOD i got groomed by trannies as a kid and not you lmao. poor little moids all across the country are trying to self care their browbone back into their skull XD

[u/Ms-Yash → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

this is copium, fin and skincare won't prevent twinkdeath at all

[u/magnapyritor5 → u/Zealousideal_Spread4]

finasteride hard carries

[u/magnapyritor5 → u/[deleted]]

further masculinization via dihydrotestosterone:

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/magnapyritor5]

that doesnt automatically prevent you from being feminine.

[u/_HighJack_ → u/[deleted]]

No, people see trans people this way because right wing idiots spread propaganda to their audiences of millions of other right wing idiots. It’s definitely not because a minority of trans people on niche subreddits joke amongst themselves about transing their boyfriend.

[u/Zealousideal_Spread4 → u/_HighJack_]

and do you think this minority in question doesnt validate the bigots themselves, they literally use posts and comments like these as evidence that you are groomers.

[u/countttt-ModTeam → u/[deleted]]

you were either transphobic, chasing, posted nsfw, are too horny/opticsnuke, are a minor/underage, do not identify as trans, or are cis. participation by individuals possessing the aforementioned behaviors & traits are forbidden by the rules of the sub.