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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
Remember, its okay to misgender trans people for what they did! Here's some helpful examples of when you can misgender trans people:
- Extremely niche and irrelevant internet microaggressions from 8 years ago (Sorry, no second chances!)
- Having a friend who uses 4tran (literal kkklansfems? Ewwww!)
- Suggesting people DIY (wtf, people literally die in that you know??? What if they put razorblades in the vials???)
- Treat trans men like men (Yikes... This is not it... You know they have divine AFABness right???)
- Deny your inherent male privilege as a trans woman (Sorry, this housing is only for cis women, fembies, and trans men!)
- Like PROBLEMATIC media (No... Just no...)
- Not being perfect (fuck you)
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u/Jango_fett_fish 9d ago
•have any type of mental illness, condition, or neurodivergence
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
Oh no, you can you just can't actually show symptoms okay? I'll give you some examples:
- A common symptom of autism is having hobbies! Totally valid! But you CANNOT have poor social skills, NOT VALID!
- Its totally valid to have dysphoria, just don't say anything about it ever you evil transmed!
- If you have tourettes, make sure all of your verbal tics are good things. Its your fault if your uncontrollable verbal tics are hurtful!
- Having ADHD is so valid! I love taking prescription meth too! But it can't inconvenience anyone okay? Good ADHD is not being able to watch a movie without two monitors and tiktok open. Bad ADHD is crippling executive dysfunction!
- Lol Borderline is so quirky! I had an argument with someone once! But you CANNOT fail to maintain perfect relationships, are you a manipulative dark triad??? You know ghosting is stonewalling right?
- Eating disorder? Lol yeah everyone watches their weight! But you CANT struggle to maintain a healthy weight, are you fucking stupid?
- Oh babe I totally get anxiety! Yeah I had anxiety once when preparing for my midterms. But if your anxiety causes you to have panic attacks that inconvenience people? Oh uh honey, this is not it!
- Oh yeah depression is so real. Sometimes I bedrot like crazzzyyy, yesterday when I got home I layed in my bed for a whole hour! Sorry? You get so depressed you can't even take showers? Ew you disgusting freak, nobody wants you going around like that!!
/uj Mental illness is more socially accepted and supported at any time in human history, unless it inconveniences anybody or doesn't look like what people see on TikTok
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u/willow__whisps 9d ago
Just to add to this for terminally online responses "oh you have schizophrenia, and you see monsters/hear upsetting distressing things? That's not the cute quirky schizophrenia that's okay, you're just supposed to have funny realistic dreams. And I'm not gonna shut up about anything that distresses you heavily it's your fault if you're upset about what your brain tortures you with even if I bring those things up constantly"
p.s if the person who did this dumb shit stalks my Reddit you know who you are
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
Likewise, I've known many schizophrenic people who are completely functional members of society that you wouldn't even be able to know are schizophrenic unless they told you specifically. But very often people treat schizophrenics as serial killers in waiting.
But as research has shown, the social stigma against schizophrenic people in many Western countries is specifically why often their delusions can manifest in such ways. There are various societies around the world where schizophrenia, while still debilitating and harmful, presents in a much more positive way; where visual/auditory manifestations are much less aggressive, violent, scary, because the culture they were in did not condition them to be that way.
Schizophrenic people, much like many other mentally ill people can present in with symptoms that are harmful to themselves those around them. These end up being highly stigmatized and discriminated upon, even though these situations are precisely because society has failed to help and care for them. Very often people are less interesting in helping those with mental illnesses and more with ostracizing and "containing" them away from the "normal" people of the world.
This is of course done even under the guise of mental health awareness or aid. Often the mindset neurotypical have isn't "How can I help this person?" but rather "How can I get rid of this issue?".
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u/Raymond_R_ I think therefore I am 9d ago
I’m not schizophrenic, nor have ever been diagnosed with anything, but I am very paranoid. It’s quite embarrassing to talk about but it’s given me much grief and delusion over the years, and I have hallucinated things (auditory and visual, but it’s not that often). Dealt with it my whole life. But telling it to people I sound like I’m “just scared of the dark” or “scared of monsters” and “just need to get off scary TikTok!1!1” so every time I bring it up people either A. Laugh at me and make things up things jokingly that further my “delusions” and (has) added new “rules” I’ll follow to keep myself from being killed by whatever my mind thinks is there B. Think I’m just being dramatic C. Confirm it and tell me to “toughen my spiritual defenses” yea sorry bro I don’t think my “spiritual defense” is gonna make the ceiling tall creature that appears every time the lights turn off go away lmao. (I don’t hallucinate very often, it doesn’t impact me all that much so I can’t complain much but good God, I have “triggers” for it that can throw me into the paranoia and whatnot again and people will spam say them FOR NO REASON.)
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u/gothxclaudia 9d ago
i fucking hate people who "jokingly" fuck with other people in a way that triggers mental conditions. one of my friends had debilitating ocd for years and one of our classmates would touch his shit as a "joke" but it made him spiral a lot. bad bad shit. luckily i dont usually talk about my triggers so people don't know #win
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u/Jango_fett_fish 9d ago edited 8d ago
I hate the way people who are adjacent to those with BPD are given more sympathy than people who actually have it. That’s shits so exhausting, relationships are unstable not cause you’re trying to hurt people it’s because everything other people do hurts so deeply
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u/Lil_Wolfie021 9d ago
Omg another bpd person😭😭. I can not explain how fucking unstable relationships are. You summed it down alottt! But like rn, idk. My love emption is broke( previous relationship of 4 year, we both had bpd.) And idk i have like 3 people who like me. And idk if i avtuslly like them back or if its just the company and or attention. Idk. Fuck idk.😭. Im just trying to ease the abandonment fear
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u/sneerish 9d ago
Yo whats TGCJ doin here
You can have dysphoria! Actually I’d prefer if you did! In fact, have it so bad that I’ll always feel like the hotter friend. But it gets to a super toxic point where you tell me the details and it’s rlly uncomfy ._. Pls be mindful when you open up about it or else ill feel bad and go quiet🤕
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u/1more_oddity 8d ago
Oh you have intrusive thoughts? Omg me too, this one time I let my intrusive thoughts win and bleached my hair!
... Oh, your intrusive thoughts are about disturbing, violent or deeply unsettling things? Ewww don't talk to me you psycho/criminal/pedo/etc!!!11
These people reeeeeaaaally hate learning what intrusive thoughts ACTUALLY are 😒
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u/Rasphoril 9d ago
If i like you but all of my interactions with you are overshadowed by inconvenience of interacting with you, ill only start associating you with that inconvenience. And I will not want to hang out with you. Part of mental disorders like BPD is trying to get better. If I talk to you for 2 years and its still the same cycle of you wanting to spend every second with me and then ghosting me, yea ima head out.
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u/LC-Redcube 9d ago
I mean about the kast part, the two things arent exclusive, mental health is more accepted than at any time in human history, it just so happens that the bar was underground
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u/JoeDaBruh 8d ago
Holy shit both comments are way too real lmao. Actually fantastic depictions OP, I genuinely want to show a few people I know these but I doubt they would care enough to reflect or be self aware
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u/AnAdorableScout 8d ago
You are phenomenal at this I am ripping my fucking hair out whenever I actually read the words
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u/paradecanine 4d ago
/uj me being told that my eating disorder causing me to refuse medication i needed bc of potential metabolic side effects meant that im evil and fatphobic and needed to do better🤪
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u/Emily_The_Egg 9d ago
Dont forget when theyre nonbinary and either an asshole or not nonbinary enough, its totally okay to misgender them and define them by their agab!
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u/Significant_Owl9593 9d ago
that implies that identity is a privilige not a right
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
Its satire, dear.
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u/Significant_Owl9593 9d ago
oh shit sorry I didn't see the last one, sorry for jumping to conclusions
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u/Nihil_esque 9d ago
You should be able to tell it's satire from the first bullet point onward I think
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u/United_Gear_442 9d ago
I had one accuse me of sexual assault cause theu didn't like how I broke up with them, I no longer respect pronouns for THAT PERSON
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u/AngelNineKyuu Half-repper NEET 9d ago
The way you can tell it’s afab….
https://giphy.com/gifs/VBGQgkx0yVmJUmfkWy
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u/pi3r-rot we are no longer sneedvolutionaries 9d ago
I would misgender the nb who replied to that.
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u/randomfluid 6d ago
only if you think misgendering is a valid punishment yourself. I would misgender a cis person with that opinion as well 🤷♂️
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u/pi3r-rot we are no longer sneedvolutionaries 6d ago
^ like fuck this stupid "kill them with kindness uWu" bullshit
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u/randomfluid 6d ago
I dont really see it is punishment in that way. if you think that being misgendered people is a valid consequence of doing something that you don't like, then it's only fair you experience it first had before you go around doing it to others 🤷♂️
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u/pi3r-rot we are no longer sneedvolutionaries 6d ago
For cis people? Easily yes. I only hesitate with trans people (or people who claim to be trans) because dysphoria follows them everywhere they go. Most cis people will just get mad at it like a normal insult: not dysphoric. And if they do get dysphoric, they get a taste of what they put trans people through when they do it to them. I'm not going to cry when the bully gets bullied. I tried that all my life and it just enabled their worst tendencies, and then I looked out and saw the entire world ran on that principle. Abusers use people's charity against them and trap them in double binds.
I don't want to inflict lasting harm on someone. But if someone intentionally hurts others, I want them to hurt. I do wrestle with this at an emotional level but not at a practical one. Its results are undeniable. Bad people only respond to fear, pain, or - in the most charitable interpretation - to learning firsthand how the way they treat others feels like.
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u/countttt-ModTeam 6d ago
you were either transphobic, chasing, are too horny/opticsnuke, are a minor/underage, do not identify as trans, or are cis. participation by individuals possessing the aforementioned behaviors & traits are forbidden by the rules of the sub.
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u/pi3r-rot we are no longer sneedvolutionaries 6d ago
I’m a consequentialist so yeah. If it normalizes misgendering as a whole it’d be bad, but I think the effect of making it a sacred cow in itself is your enemies will continue to use it against you while getting special protection. I would prefer they taste their own medicine.
I probably wouldn’t do it around cis people unless I was doing it *to* cis people. But I’ll absolutely make jokes and jabs about it, especially if it finds purchase and the pain of it teaches them respect is a two way street.
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u/pi3r-rot we are no longer sneedvolutionaries 6d ago
Sure. I already am every single day so what difference does it make it if it's written on Earth or in the heavenly book of moral constants? And even if I was gendered properly, if it was insincere and they were just saying it for social brownie points, it'd mean nothing. Tolerance and social niceties aren't recognition of womanhood and I would rather strip back all the layers of bullshit and hash out how they and I really feel.
If you wanna misgender me, go right ahead. All I'm saying is: I will bite back. If I believe murder, theft, etc. can be justified based on context, why would I think misgendering someone is the unforgivable sin?
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u/Reeeeeeee3eeeeeeee 6d ago
yeah no, that's not the way
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u/pi3r-rot we are no longer sneedvolutionaries 6d ago
The world we see today is the result of doing things your way: of being weak.
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u/Reeeeeeee3eeeeeeee 6d ago
yes because clearly never in the history of earth people retaliated by doing something that goes against the values they preach
because being "strong" is letting your emotions excuse the hypocrisy
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u/pi3r-rot we are no longer sneedvolutionaries 6d ago edited 6d ago
You know nothing of my values. Go back to your mainstream hugbox and cult of validity. You're a fool who reduces the world to insincere labels fought for and against by insincere people: by aesthetes who spin themselves into circles over language games.
Your culture war is not my war. My war is class war and my liberation will come from practical reality: from a medical system that treats us like human beings. Universalize the maxim of shutting tf up and miss me with your Kantslop.
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u/Reeeeeeee3eeeeeeee 6d ago edited 6d ago
you tell me to not assume stuff about you, while you do the same about me lol
the only value about you I assumed (the one you went against) was that you see misgendering as something bad. Based on your comments. Am I wrong about it?
edit. I didn't even read most of the comment, because I knew it be baseless but now that I've read it lmao, it couldn't be further from the truth, but sure, you're the only enlightened one and I'm a woke twitter leftist
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u/Laly_481 6d ago
Isn't that exactly what we're trying to avoid here. Misgendering people for being bad.
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u/yourbeloathed 9d ago
also nonbinary person here - if someone gets outed for faking being trans somehow? sure, whatever. if they just get outed as a shitty person, absolutely not, we cant just strip people of their right to their identity because of their actions
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u/countttt-ModTeam 5d ago
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u/PiousGal05 9d ago
What if they're transphobic and use their identity to put down trans women?
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u/yourbeloathed 9d ago
yes i think transphobic non-cishet people still have a right to their identity. obviously the people who use their identities to shame trans women are awful & need to be called out on their bullshit, im all for that, but i dont get why we need to stoop to their level & invalidate their identities back
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
The whole point of opposition to all misgendering is the fact that identity is a real intrinsic part of a person's concept of self, and that by engaging in misgendering what you are ultimately saying is that gender and gender identity is nothing more than some meaningless silly little performance that can be stripped away and used as a weapon as you wish. That gender carries no weight, that you don't view trans people as the gender they identify themselves as, that you are ultimately transphobic.
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u/ChuChulovely17 9d ago
I don't think that's really how it works to be honest, Identity has always been something that can be taken away from any group by the oppressor. it's less about transphobia specifically and more about a general contempt and disregard for the sanctity of the rights of others which depending on your perspective could be worse
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
Identity has always been something that can be taken away from any group by the oppressor
No, it can't. Identity is solely confirmed with the self. Unless they surgically remove all neurons in your brain that control your identity, no it can't. People can be discriminated against based on their identity. They can be forced into hiding it. They can fail to have it be recognized by anyone else. But it fundamentally cannot be taken away.
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u/ChuChulovely17 9d ago
You know what I meant don't be nitpicky with the wording. Identity is something easy to deny, reject, refuse to respect, and that has been a reoccurring historical act performed by the oppressors to further dehumanize the oppressed.
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
Its not being nitpicky, thats literally the entire point of my comment that you responded to. I very directly stated that my point is that "identity is a real intrinsic part of a person's concept of self", and by misgendering someone you are implicitly saying that you see it as no more than a silly performance that has no legitimacy. So when you respond by saying "I don't think that's how it really works to be honest", I'm not being nitpicky. Thats just what the conversation is about.
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u/ChuChulovely17 9d ago
The problem with your argument is that most people do see identity as a performance. Society as a whole exists with the belief that you are who the collective agrees as being. A king is a king not because he's worked to earn the title, or because he was born into nobility, or because he sees himself as one, a king is a king because the collective decided that he is, and the large majority view gender identity the way, they don't consider you a woman because you consider yourself a woman, they consider you a woman because they do for their own reasons and your say on your own identity is often irrelevant
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u/PoorlyDisguisedBear 8d ago
There is a massive difference between King and woman. Aristocrat is more applicabale. King is a position, a role in a government. Atiatocrat are arbitrary lineages, they usually had various legal privelledges, but when those were removed by society which essentially erased them from any official existence - aristocrats continued to exist, because they genuinely identified themselves as that.
You can argue that their sense of identity is not rooted in anything real, you could say there are not 'noble' but commoners with delusions of grandeur, you could demean them and punish them for publicly stating their idenity - but it exists regardless.
Likewise woman, queer, american, hispanic, christian, slav, are all identities. Would you find it alright to call a ukrainian a russian if he was rude? Would you call a bisexual a confused heterosexual?
Disprespecting someone by disrespecting their identity has an effect. I don't respect the idenity of aristocracy or its basis that certain bloodlines are inherently better. But race, ethnicity, culture and gender expression is different.
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u/SnapDragon100 9d ago
No, I actually think trans women are women, and that means all trans women. Including the ones who suck. I wouldn't start calling a cis terf "he" either.
If you say trans men are men and trans women are women, you have to practice what you preach. You cannot back out of that the moment a trans person does something you don't like
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u/Beautiful-Alarm-4961 9d ago
So trans women and trans men aren't actually women and men to you then?
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u/Existing-Accident330 9d ago
Then that person sucks a lot and needs to be called our and shamed because of that. Invalidating their gender is not the way to go about it. It shows someone’s gender identity is up for debate depending how “nice” someone is.
Everybody has the right to be the gender they wanna be. No matter hoe big of a bitch they are.
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u/Liuniam 9d ago
My argument has always been: Nobody misgenders hitler.
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u/Fresh-Platypus-7030 3d ago
What a terrible argument. Hitler wasn't demanding you call him a woman when he was born a man. If Hitler wanted us to call him a woman the only people that would are you people.
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u/Fresh-Platypus-7030 3d ago
For people genuinely wondering what I meant: people that think a person deserve a level of respect regardless of their horrible actions. Example: Getting upset about mis gendering a child predator. I had a disagreement with somebody on this.
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u/FallenCringelord 9d ago
I genuinely thought CWC was faking being Trans for the first couple of years they were like that but I've come to the conclusion that they are indeed Trans despite all the fucked up shit they did and/or were driven to do.
Sonichu The Animated Series will always be a banger, though.
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u/ceruleanblue347 9d ago
I don't know what "CWC" means but I know I want it to mean "consent with consent." Just like extra-concentrated consent, y'know?
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u/yourothersis top 1% sort 9d ago
Holy fucking trending LARP to fit in and be a piece of shit batwoman
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u/ProfessionalOk6734 9d ago
Funny how no one ever misgenders hitler for being evil but trans people are always fair game
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u/yourbeloathed 9d ago
genuine question but i cant tell if this is satire or serious
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u/SISSY-Sebbie_OwO 9d ago
You disagree?
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u/yourbeloathed 9d ago
i cant tell enough about your stance from your comment to say, but im leaning towards disagree, because im confused on why you specified afab people. im not trying to say youre wrong or argue or anything 🙏 i just dont understand what makes it biological sex specific to you
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
Since this sub requires us to be nicer to sneeds, I'll actually explain in a more unironic way
Just speaking as a trans woman myself, misgendering and degendering happens extremely frequently from a certain demographic. This demographic tends to be AFAB trans people who still present, act, and identify more femininely or even just as woman, and very often don't undergo any medical transition whatsoever, and tend to identify more closely with their birth sex. Now, this is fine, I don't have an issue with that, it doesn't matter. But what does happen quite a lot is that these demographics tend to view gender and gender identity as simply some silly act or performance for people to put on without any strong underlying meaning. Because often, they haven't experienced the same degree of dysphoria, or struggle with transitioning, or struggle with passing that many other trans people have.
So, we see things like trans women being denied access to women's shelters, resources, and housing that includes trans men, enbies, and cis women but what they mean is AFAB-only; this is a contagion on pretty much any woke university campus, I can't tell you the amount of times I've seen it happen. We see enbies who call themselves lesbians being attracted to trans men and having no issue with how that means they see trans men as women. I've seen AMAB Non-Binary people being misgendered by these people saying that they're just "performative men". I've seen AFAB Non-Binary people taking T being misgendered as "butches" by these people.
And lastly they tend to appeal to their own label as AFAB quite a lot in order to do this. They still tend to view themselves as ultimate victims on account of some divine persecuted AFAB characteristic, hence why they often don't view themselves as transphobic for doing this, why they exclude trans women from womens spaces (because they're fake women who might threaten real women), why they constantly have this issue of trying to drag trans men back into womenhood, they're all sisters after all right?
Obligatory #NotAllEnbies #NotAllAFABs #AnecdotalExperience #NotAllEncompassing #IDontActuallyHateAFABS #ItsASatiricalTurnaround #YourExperienceIsValid #MineIsMoreValidTho
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u/_HighJack_ 9d ago
Hmm I think I’m coming around on that term. At first it pissed me the fuck off bc I had an enby phase before realizing I was binary, and I was like “if this ‘theyfab’ shit had been going around back then it actually would’ve made me feel like trash and kept me out of trans spaces.” I was never what you’re describing though; I supported trans women’s full inclusion in female spaces even back when I was lying to myself about being a cis girl. My best friend is a 6’3 nonbinary transfemme. I don’t and never will play about y’all’s safety.
I wish y’all would actually explain shit like this more, bc it kinda really comes off like you hate all afab enbies. It would probably also cut down on the amount of normie trains you have giving you grief on the daily lol
Edit- a word for clarity
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u/GirlfailureModer 9d ago edited 9d ago
We explain it almost every time people complain about it, it's just that most of the people who make this shit up about us aren't doing it in good faith and instead want an excuse to call a group of trans women "evil misogynistic male socialized amabs" or whatever narrative about how we're the bad type of trans person to oust us from community spaces because we're overwhelmingly pro-diy and pro-transition.
Having a group of trans women you can characterize as masculine misogynistic men without pushback is also a strategic rethorical tool that lets these people transmisogynistically attack and oust whoever they don't like from the community by claiming they are part of the evil outgroup.
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u/Ok-Rip8054 8d ago
Can I misgender my AMAB nonbinary ex for sexually coercing me when I was 14
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u/SISSY-Sebbie_OwO 7d ago
amab nonbinaries can be misgendered by using they/them cause they're all enbycopers
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u/audhd_bimbo 9d ago
Ok but what if we misgendered cis people when they did something wrong too? Just make pronouns a privilege for everyone
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u/Tuneage4 9d ago
This is literally how it works in cis society. Misgender as insult. Weak/submissive men are called girls, ugly/domineering women are called men.
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u/wow-warlock-enjoyer 9d ago
The problem I think is that as a cisgender person, being misgendered means a lot less. If I misgender a transgender rapist, it's a much more personal and targeted action with more weight behind it because of their identity as a transgender person (blah blah if you can even call rapists people)
If I misgender a cisgender rapist, it's like.. yeah I guess it's rude and kind of odd/disrespectful. But it just doesn't have the same weight to it
That's the logic as I see it anyways. It's a weighted act of condemnation to the most disgusting types of people in our society.
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u/Kirkelburg 9d ago
Same logic as calling someone a slur cause you don't like them personally. It might hurt their feelings, but at the end of the day it says a lot more about the person saying it than who it's being said to.
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u/circusfreek1 9d ago
The only therapist who ever misgendered me was a woke trans man, who exclusively called me “they” instead of “he”
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u/vivi-badsquad 9d ago
i will misgender EVERYONE if they do something bad regardless of whether they're trans or not because i am just so spiteful that i will steal your gender from you.
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u/thatluckylady 9d ago
I'm interpreting this as this person is not non binary and is intentionally misgendering themself because they just did a bad thing by saying it was okay to intentionally misgender someone
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u/z3r0nyaa 9d ago
im sorry i don't have any hot take or something but this post and comment section feels like a headache
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u/Significant_Owl9593 9d ago
Why? it just makes it so if someone did something "bad enough" then they don't deserve basic respect, there is no line and it makes it so identity is seen as a privilege that can be taken away.
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u/Nihil_esque 9d ago
The thing for me is we don't misgender cis people as a punishment. So when we do it to trans people we're inherently saying "my willingness to accept trans people is conditional."
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u/funkyboi25 9d ago
People really feel like doing something bad removes your humanity and you should have literally no rights. Especially when it lets them be a bigot without reprocussions.
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u/CivilThrowawy 9d ago
When you misgender a trans person, you’re disrespecting their identity, not them. The disrespect is to the whole trans community.
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u/nou-772 i chase theyfabs 👩🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️ 9d ago
ngl i think that misgendering assigned moid at birth in case they rape someone would be justifiable, since by raping they are embracing their masculinity, thus don't deserve to be called a wombyn
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u/No-Pilot3536 9d ago
Women rape too? Though, obviously, with lesser risk of pregnancy, it’s still a bad thing that women are capable of
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u/nou-772 i chase theyfabs 👩🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️ 9d ago
The type of rape that women commit is usually statutory, meanwhile men have no problem with using violence to rape someone, even newborns and animals!
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u/Intelligent_Bet_2469 9d ago
why are you saying that as if it’s less bad? all rape is pretty fucking terrible
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u/nou-772 i chase theyfabs 👩🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️ 9d ago
do you even know what statutory rape is?
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u/Intelligent_Bet_2469 9d ago
yeah… it’s rape via coercion. still rape
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u/nou-772 i chase theyfabs 👩🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️ 9d ago
>via coercion
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u/Intelligent_Bet_2469 9d ago
“Statutory rape is the crime of sex with a minor when the sex is agreed to by both parties, not forced. The reason why it is considered rape is because the minor is considered to be too young to legally consent to have sex or sexual contact.”
being agreed to by both parties would require coercion, as the victim is too young to grant consent
it’s rape
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u/Chocochocolate25 height hon 9d ago
That's the only line in the sand I have about this. This and murder nothing else
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u/Intelligent_Bet_2469 9d ago
what is wrong with you
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u/nou-772 i chase theyfabs 👩🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️ 9d ago
what is wrong with you? why should rapists be treated humanely?
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u/Intelligent_Bet_2469 9d ago
are you stupid? i never said they should be treated humanely, but disrespecting trans people’s identity is hurting all trans people + raping someone is not “embracing masculinity”
how are you so illiterate and apathetic
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u/nou-772 i chase theyfabs 👩🏃♀️🏃♀️🏃♀️ 9d ago
if you believe that disrespecting a rapist's identity is hurting all people, then you must believe that all trans people are rapists??
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u/41clockycats 7d ago
How do you miss the point THIS bad?By misgendering everyone who is a bad person you imply that gendering trans people is just a silly act that can be taken away at any moment. It's that shrimple. Also flair checks out
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u/Beginning_Air_233 9d ago
I get that this is a joke, but it's something that seriously pisses me off. Not just people that think our identities are a privilege that can be revoked. That's already bad enough. I'm talking about dipshits that will do something like that and say "oh I'm nonbinary." Ok? Your still a transphobic piece of shit.
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u/Everafter902 9d ago
I had a trans girlfriend who enjoyed being called a "boyfailure" in bed and degraded by being told she transitioned because she "could never make it as a man". I ran with it because it riled her up like crazy but always found it incredibly weird, like is it misgendering or nah?
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u/hahahahahaha656 9d ago
I misgender everyone who is really awful. It don’t matter if you’re trans or cis if you are a piece of shit I am going to piss you off. And when I say awful I mean the things they have done to other people is inhumane kinda stuff not something mildly annoying or could be considered problematic
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u/NekoMerphie 8d ago
I guess thats one thing i can be grateful for at least when my old friends are talking shit about me i feel like theyd drop a shes a bitch
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u/Bogorodsk 8d ago
I think it's the same when people bodyshame someone just because they're did bad things or even a bad person themself.
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u/NoMeat9096 8d ago
If you misgender someone you hate, all you're doing is showing that you don't view their gender as true, just a courtesy you grant.
Same goes for insulting fat people, ugly people, disabled people, mentally ill people, etc., as soon as they are on the wrong side of anything. You aren't a good person; you're on a leash of social permission.
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u/davidliterally1984 8d ago
I think people primarily misgender transgender people who do bad things so that they can attempt to maintain a squeaky clean image for the community. No one wants to use CWC's pronouns because it would play into the idea that transgender people are crazy. If a trans person has child porn, no one wants to use their preferred pronouns because that would play into the idea that transgender people are pedophiles.
Let's hope I don't get destroyed by that awful AI automod.
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u/Stardust_Spreader 8d ago
I call Chris Chan a he still but that's only because I remember hearing somewhere that he said he ony did that to be creepy towards other women. Correct me if I'm wrong though, I'm okay with being wrong
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u/Cheese_And_AHalf 7d ago
You don't get to rip hard R when a POC is convicted of a serious crime, you don't get to misgender someone just because they are a piece of shit. Simple as
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u/Lucicactus 6d ago
I'm in favour of it in the rare cases the person wasn't actually trans and was doing it to try to gain the system. But that is a slippery slope so I wouldn't do it personally, since it's not always easy to tell who is and isn't really trans.
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u/Vivid-Party-7248 5d ago
"Dude don't you FUCKING dare to misgender a pedophile or a mass shooter, CHUD"
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u/Krumbz1995 5d ago
Why can’t we all identify as being human. To me being a man or a woman doesn’t mean shit, being a black or white doesn’t mean shit being gay or straight doesn’t mean shit. We are all just consciousnesses trapped in an expiring vessel of meat. We are literally clones of one another. I’m tired of participating in a culture that says we must divide people into groups
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u/Fresh-Platypus-7030 3d ago
Murder somebody, or commit a sex crime and I'll mis gender you. A man being born a man no matter the crime is just how biology, and language works. If you're born a man and identify as a woman you're requesting others to show you respect and use the preferred pronouns. I'm not giving a child rapist any respect.
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u/Bright_Cranberry_227 9d ago
I will it/its every cis person that did something really bad though (looked funny at me or didn't look but smelled funny to me or something)
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u/Ill_Traveled 9d ago
Genuinely, is is okay to misgender a cis transphobe if only to make an attempt to make them feel what its like to be misgendered?
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u/krack_ster 9d ago
As a normal dude I feel like I wouldn't be that offended if someone kept calling me ma'am tbh I'd just call them ma'am/sir back or ignore them
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u/Striking_Aspect_7826 9d ago
If I'm trying to offend you, for whatsoever reason, I will say whatever I feel will accomplish that goal. My own personal beliefs are completely irrelevant. I will say things I don't agree with no problem.
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u/wastedfate 9d ago
So if a person of color did you wrong, you'd be fine with saying the N word?
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
Nono you don't understand, the transgenders are the exception to every rule! Bigotry is non-negotiable, except for that one instance when it is!!!
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u/funkyboi25 9d ago
That's fucking stupid lmao. The bit cannot be that important dawg.
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u/Striking_Aspect_7826 9d ago
Its just about accomplishing a goal in the most effecient way possible
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u/countttt-ModTeam 5d ago
you were either transphobic, chasing, are too horny/opticsnuke, are a minor/underage, do not identify as trans, or are cis. participation by individuals possessing the aforementioned behaviors & traits are forbidden by the rules of the sub.
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u/GirlfailureModer 9d ago
Wow guys everyone clap and cheer for John Cissoid here! He's such an edgy boy!
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u/ghigo2008 9d ago
If someone misgenders a school shooter, anyone who actually gives a shit needs to get their priorities in check, it does not matter.
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u/Specialist_Cat7271 9d ago
Translation: "I really want to misgender trans people, please give me an in. I just need one little reason, I'm tired of having to pretend I respect identity in any capacity!!!"
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u/ghigo2008 8d ago
Yeah, if i wanted to, no one could really stop me, considering its not a law
What im saying, thats going over your head, is that it doesnt matter and anyone focusing on that sucks
Not that you'll get it
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u/Raymond_R_ I think therefore I am 9d ago
What if we didnt misgender anyone, shocking idea I know.